See the Sunday People today

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 09:10

link



http://www.people.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2011/06/26/the-s35m-conman-102039-232....



Are more arrest warrants to follow?

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 09:13

seems this lin k is not working, go to Sunday people - do a search lee sorrell should take you to it.

the butler


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Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
26/06/2011 09:14

Hi Pauline,





The link isn't working for me.







The butlers wife

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 09:21

I know butler, have typed exactly what I have on the printed copy I have taken from the Intenet. You can access it from the Stop the Blackmail in NOrth Cyprus facebook Group page, it is an open group so even if you are not a member you can access it.



If you are not a member, do not forget to sign the petition. now have 566 members.

Earlybird


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 09:29

http://www.people.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2011/06/26/the-s35m-conman-102039-23227481/

araneae


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Posts: 193

Message Posted:
26/06/2011 09:33

I bet Akfinans can find a good advocate to stand in the dock with big bad Gary

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 09:43

Oh dear araneae, you may say that, I could not possibly comment.



Thank you earlybird, glad to see you are not too busy on the 'naughty step'.!!!

SuziSuz


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Posts: 135

Message Posted:
26/06/2011 09:56

According to the CPS there is a European Arrest warrant issed for



Gary Robb, Tahir Soycan and Akan Kursat.



This has been issued by ROC for 9 offences relating to



False Representation to Property Purchase,

Money Laundering

Developing Land That Didn’t belong to them

& Other Property Issues.



There are 9 offences in all relating to property in the district of Girne and its surrounding areas.



http://agabuyersactiongroup.wordpress.com/

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 10:07

Anyone know where Mr Soycan is?

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 10:23

Anyone know where Franga and Paliamantra is?



I think Mr Kursat will be in the court at GIrne on THursday the 30th JUne



THank you girls for saying that which I could not possibly say without something in writing to back it with.

araneae


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Posts: 193

Message Posted:
26/06/2011 10:26

it is now being reported on various websites that according to the CPS there is a European Arrest warrant issued for



Gary Robb,Tahir Soycan and Akan Kursat.



This has been issued by ROC for 9 offences relating to



False Representation to Property Purchase,



Money Laundering



Developing Land That Didn’t belong to them



& Other Property Issues.

araneae


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Posts: 193

Message Posted:
26/06/2011 10:27

OOPS HAD NOT SEEN msg 8 sorry

Cocklebay


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 10:39

Many other conmen English, Turkish Cypriot etc., still remain on the Island!!!! Many people will never ever see their properties completed.

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 10:55

Well, if true, poor Mr Kusat will have to satsify himself with staying here or only visiting countries who do not have extradition treaties with the EU.



I suppose if he asks nicely the Kader family will allow him to weekend with them at MY villa. JUst a thought, should any Bank be associating with someone who allegedly has a Euroean arrest warrant outstanding for crimes including money laundering. NO accusations, just thinking out loud.



Cocklebay, Sadly, I think you are right.

carian


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 11:48

There's plenty of conmen in the ROC as well !!

magicart


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 11:55

I agree and some of them are British.

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 11:56

Of course carian, we sympathise with all our fellow victims and I agree it is somewhat ironic that such a corrupt regime should be asking to extradite the NORTH'S CONMEN when they take no action against their own. But hey as a member of K5 and for all the victims of Aga, some of whom are now no longer with us (may they Rest in Peace), allow us this small moment. In our hearts we know it will change nothing. This whole island is fiddling whilst Cyprus burns.



Do not buy in Cyprus - North or South.

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 18:41

Facts



As someone of the run Gary Robb should not have been given/allowed to buy citizenship

For the same reason he should not have been allowed to form a Company



That he too may have been shafted, I have little doubt.



The he was complicit together with TC so called professionals in shafting allegedly 400 innocent people I also have little doubt.



What should have been, might have been if he had not been shafted is conjecture and something we shall never know the answer to.



If the Government had acted appropriately at the outset and deported a man on the run, this thread would be unnecessary. Gary Robb would have served his time and maybe this would have all been behind him and 400 people would not have had the last eight years of misery.



Hindsight 20/20

philbailey


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 19:30

If he is still in jail

surely he will be arrested on release

wanderer


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 19:37

Missunderstood

On the Kama thing it looks as if Robb will be done on a perverse law in the south that the roc are guilty of themselves appropriating TC land

It would be interesting to see if he can cut a deal with the roc for telling where all the skeletons are in the North could cause a lot of embarrassment in places if he makes it back

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
26/06/2011 19:42

I was under the impresssion (may be wrong)

that if a T/C displaced ,resides for 6 months in the ROC

they can them reclaim propety/land

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
26/06/2011 19:45

Yes Phil,....but what if its not there anymore ?



Do you know anyone who has been compensated for this type of loss !

erolz


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 19:50

philbailey if a TC first resides in the RoC for 6 months, then after that point they can start the legal process to reclaim their pre 74 property. A case completed last year did lead to a TC gaining their pre 74 property back, at the expense of a GC 'refugee' who was living there. However it took the TC ten years of legal action, after first residing there for at least 6 months, in the RoC before this result was achieved. Return was eventualy granted, no compensation was given or can be given under RoC for loss of use however. It can be done but it requires determination, patience and money to fight the legal battles. It certainly is not a case of live there for 6 months and you will get your property back.

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
26/06/2011 19:52

War is war, you win or lose. The Greeks lost, the Turks didn't! TRNC is Turk speaking land!



Richard

Lilli



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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 19:53

Ohil I think he knows that, he tried writing to us all months ago asking sorry telling all he will complete them . Karma has a way and it will happen that justice may be done x

philbailey


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 19:53

Can G/Cs do the same ?

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
26/06/2011 19:59

IPC would be a good start ?

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 20:18

My understanding is that it will be instant arrest when Mr Robb is released, bit like the okey cokey,

in, out, in but when will the out come about.



You are all right, the south are trying to deflect attention from their own cesspit of property scams. It will be

another propaganda campaign which starts with 'oh look at how wronged we have been', this time though no one will buy it. When they start addressing their own problems and righting the many many wrongs, maybe they will be in a position to point the finger. The implications could be enormous.



However, I am pleased that some of the rogues involved in the Aga scam will be feeling very vulnerable, just as the victims have been feeling for years.

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 20:22

Yes Lilli (mess 25)



What goes round comes round !!!!

erolz


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 20:27

Philbailey msg 26, your question was answer in msg27. The legal route for a GC seeking redress for their lost property and loss of use of it to date is the IPC. In every way the IPC is a better solution for GC seeking such redress than those avialable to TC who lost property and use of it in the South post 74, except one. The IPC is less likely to offer return of property than the routes in the RoC for a TC. In every other way the IPC is better, it is simpler, it is quicker, it is cheaper it offers redress for both the property itself and for loss of use. If what you want is redress then the solutions for GC (the IPC) are much better than those for TC (reside 6months, use the courts there). If you want return and only return then it could be argued that TC have a better chance and means of securing it than GC do.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 20:32

Msg 30, thank you

a sensible and informed answer

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
26/06/2011 20:47

Will Gary Robb get a fair trial in the RoC, I personally doubt it, one thing is for sure, I cannot see him being given bail. He wil notl be being tried for the misery he has caused to Aga victims, it will be a showcase trial where the RoC will try to score points and hark back to the past. How can the alleged money laundering be dealt with in the RoC? All in all it promises to be a bit of a spectacle.

Cocklebay


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Posts: 353

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 08:28

If we get a "result"over these issues, we really must ensure that all the other dodgy pondlife calling themselves developers etc!, are hit with the full force of the law and publicly shamed!!!!!

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 08:57

Agree cocklebay all the more reason people should join the Stop the Blackmail in NOrth Cyprus facebook Group and sign the Petition.

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 12:52

If £35,000.000 is involved, then there has to be a paper trail. If the TRNC had a decent fraud squad they could follow that trail, oh forgot - fraud is not criminal in the TRNC. Neither it seems is ripping people off.

araneae


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Posts: 193

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 13:03

ahh but you forget the new task force.

Bradus


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 13:47

The new task force! Would that be the band of 5 that gave up at the first hurdle?

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 15:22

must have been an elastic band bradus, kept bouncing back over the first hurdle.



The five wise men committee, I got into trouble for calling them the W.C.



Just a flash in the pan.

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 18:31

I have a reply from the CPS - I will not give details until the article is published, it has been sent in but our editor also has a day job at present but hopefully it wont be too long in coming, as a teaser, all I will say is. 'you dont want to miss this'



Keep your eye on NCFP.

Bradus


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Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 19:08

Very interesting and detailed reply Pauline.



Such a lot of charges for Robb to answer too. Can't wait to hear how this will affect the other two named persons.



For those interested:



http://northcyprusfreepress.com/2011/06/27/uks-cps-confirms-gary-robbs-extradition-to-cyprus/#comment-22891

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 19:08

CPS cannot confirm existence of European Arrest Warrant until the person named is in custody and appears in court.... read even more fascinating revelations from the CPS in North Cyprus Free Press- latest story.

Pugwash


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Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 19:17

It will not help any one single person who has been defrauded that is for sure.

Bradus


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Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 19:33

pugwash,



I disagree. Robb's assets £1.5 million are frozen in Britain. If they were in Cyprus I would be the first to agree with you. However with an EU arrest warrant this gives his victims slightly more hope.



Even if they do not get any financial compensation there must be satisfaction from knowing that this crook will at last get his comeuppance and it will act as a warning to others.

sloan



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Posts: 808

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 19:34

That membership of the Chatered Institute of Journalists has come in very useful, Pauline!

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 19:50

I don't believe the RoC will do anything to help anyone, it will be a "show trial" about the TRNC property development. He would have been better coming back here and facing the music.

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 19:58

What music, 'play it again Gary' ?? Do you think he ever intended to help them Pugwash?



Yes Sheila, a good move mainly to stop the police arresting me, but this time it opened a door.



From K5's point of view it certainly casts a shadow on Akfinans choice of Advocate being named on the charge sheet and money laundering too, not a good image for the Bank. Just out of interest, would someone be named on a charge sheet and not arrested?? Just a very innocent question which I guess you are all also asking yourselves.

Bradus


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Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 20:01

Totally agree that it will be a "show trial" and that it will generate even more bad publicity for the TRNC and the construction industry. What a shame the inactive TRNC Government didn't step in and sort the whole mess out years ago.



Self inflicted?

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 20:05

Absolutely bradus and I cannot imagine it wont be all over the RoC press too.

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 20:18

But will the TRNC press dare to report it??

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 20:20

If only you would be a bit less "aggressive" Pauline/Polly it would help your cause that I support, I agree with Bradus however I see it as not helping the cause of the ones out of pocket, Do you really think it will help in any way?

SuziSuz


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Posts: 135

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 20:25

Photos of the AGA Directors can be seen at



http://agabuyersactiongroup.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/north-cyprus-the-aga-development-directors/

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 20:29

I suppose it will be a few months before he may be deported to the ROC

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 20:36

Amanda (mess 52)



Because I understand how Gary must be feeling, I'm more than sure he will appeal! whether he will be allowed bail however I'm not so sure! time will tell! his extradition could take a while longer than a few months, but the years go by Amanda, the waiting game for justice is always a very very long road!

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 20:45

pugwash, I really am not an agressive person, to me aggression is a violent emotion, assertive, yes, no longer willing to be walked all over, yes.



Having communicated regularly with some of the AGA victims, I get the impression they do not expect any justice to come out of the TRNC. The case in the American court against Turkey may yield results for some of the victims. I do not expect justice for K5 in the TRNC either, if it comes, it will come from the ECHR



I despair for all the victims in the TRNC and there are so many. Pauline

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 20:54

0maintenance, according to the CPS the extradition order was granted on the June 13th 2011. I imagine that on his release, Mr. Robb will be immediately arrested and held in custody until extradition, having jumped bail before, I would imagine the RoC would oppose any bail application. I have no idea how the system works but that sounds like a likely scenario.



Of course he wont get a fair trial. Of course the propaganda machine will be used to great effect by the Greek Cypriots. He should not be carrying the can alone.



My real sympathy however, goes to the AGA Victims.

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 21:14

misunderstood



We plod onwards & upwards! have had highs & lows, good times & bad times! but our aims have always been justice for the genuine victims of Aga Developments!



Mr Robb had more than one chance to put right his wrongs, along with the TRNC Government! sadly as you well know HISS effects so many in the TRNC :-(

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 21:39

message 53



Id take a pot shot @ the end of july,it would be pointless in appealing in the UK,as another EU country has asked for his extradition,so in the end no matter how many appeals,he would have to go to the ROC to answer the charges,appealing could take many years in which he would have to stay in jail on remand,i think he will just go for a quick move to the ROC and get on with it.



To be honest,when in the ROC there is no reason why he should not get bail there pending the court case,he has commited no crimes in the south,and he has finished his sentance,why should any one have to sit and wait in jail for a court case if they are not a threat to society.



Asil nadir got bail in the UK,his is a far more serious alleged crime.

Washerman


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Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 21:45

I'll be interested to hear the charges and wonder (in advance) how 'they' will affect Expat's with property in Northern Cyprus.

People should be careful what they wish for.

Isn't it ironic that with all the 'stories' about rogue builders in the TRNC that the only one being brought to task is English.

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 21:48

Sadly Amanda,



Gary John Robb is no Asil Nadir, but hey who knows! Amanda you can take a pot shot any time! end of July, early August, September? September 2013? it's anyone's guess!



How's David's little Google doing?

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 21:49

0maintenance, comparing the UK treatment of people and the RoC is chalk and cheese. RoC want their pound of flesh, humanitarians, they are not. They also may use the argument that if he is on bail, he has a home in the North and might just slip across the border.



I will be surprised if he does get bail there. I wouldn't argue with your guess on when Mr Robb will be extradited, you are probably near the mark.



TRNC victim - Justice in the TRNC, is it possible? Court on Thursday will be interesting, I do hope I can keep the smirk off my face when I see arrogance on legs.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
27/06/2011 22:02

If he was deported from the TRNC it would take a council of ministers decision to allow him back into the TRNC,i cant see that happening.

As for GJR being no Asil N,i know,i was just useing them both for the alleged crimes they both are said to have commited,1 gets bail the other does not,which alleged crime is bigger and more serious!



Google is fine,he caught his first prey today,a flying cock-a-roach,david said Google made it laim and set about playing with it,seems its hunting is good



He has a video diary for me to post,look forward to seeing it.



Any bets on the end of july?

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
27/06/2011 22:06

misunderstood (mess 60)



Justice in the TRNC was not possible for me personally! It's too lawless, I do understand that "Cowboys & Indians" is a good game for some! many on this board enjoy the lawlessness for me it's just a sick game! I'll be thinking about K5 again on Thursday, yet another round for you all to endure!

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 06:51

Asil Nadir returned voluntarily to the UK (somewhat late in the day) Gary Robb did not. Both could be considered flight risks.



The long term implications are frightening, but remember this was happening anyway, you have just been made aware now. Not knowing would not have stopped it.



Looking at the charges, yes they could go after purchasers, but the charges of (iii) attempting to obtain money by false pretences (ii)fraud on the sale of mortgage of property and (iv) money laundering does look as if they are also going after the sellers at long last. Remember without a seller, there is no buyer. This case has long way to go and I think the ride will be bumpy for all of us. The most interesting charge I think is MOney laundering, especially with Akan Kursat on the charge sheets. Representing a Bank who charges 80% per quarter compound, their Advocate accused of Money laundering.... just thinking out loud.



If Turkey are going to annex the TRNC, now might be a good tme

wanderer


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Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 11:35

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/crime/british-crook-face-land-scam-charges/20110628

Robb will be convicted

The only problem is the ECHR will overthrow the verdict eventually saying that the roc law is illegal because the IPC is the legal solution and it has not been used

Robb will have a long holiday though before the appeal goes through.How can they do him for raising mortgages on property common practice in the South

It will be another Orames four or five years with the roc poking their noses into the finance of AGA and where or who had the money

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 12:11

Msg 58, very wise

I cannot see how this is good news for any property owners of exchange land



If this test case works

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 13:45

I have been in the south on business this morning or I would by now have brought you the news that not only the Robb story online with the Cyprus Mail, it is also front page and page 3. The report is by a collegaue and friend Simon Bahceli

wanderer


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Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 14:04

Will you be reading your copy in court whilst waiting for proceedings to begin and arrogance on legs might want a read as well

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
28/06/2011 14:47

meesage 51 - Are you sure that is Akan Kursat, all that hair. If it is, he certainly looks different now.

When was it taken suzisuz

bigOz


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Message Posted:
28/06/2011 15:12

0maintenance;

I really wish you would stop making unfounded statements on topics you most certainly have no clue about! What statistical or otherwise information do you rely on when comparing TRNC remand conditions with those of UK?

Britain is notorious for keeping people on remand for no good reason - so much so that sometimes, people who have committed petty crimes end up serving on remand longer time than what they would have served if found guilty and convicted in a court of law!

The sentences passed on foreigners are always more than those on own nationals! Getting bail for English people is a lot easier and almost impossible for foreigners. If you are a foreigner held on "suspicion" with no real evidence, where the prosecution is hoping to convict you with the help of an all English jury, and "inferences", you could end up serving best part of 1 year or 2, waiting to prove your innocence. The fact is, in UK "You are guilty until proven innocent".

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
28/06/2011 15:27

wanderer perhaps you should ask hm to autograph it.



Bigoz are you really saying it is better here, Geoff Day might not agree with you, he definitely was presumed guilty until proven innocent and was under virtual house arrest to 2 years and 3 months by virtue of the fact that his passport was confiscated. Okay eventually a sensible Judge found him not guilty but 65 court appearances, that really is obscene .

philbailey


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Message Posted:
28/06/2011 15:32

Anthony Davy may disagree too

andre514


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Posts: 763

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 15:54

the republic of cyprus hopes to further undermine their signing of the 2004 treaty

of accession article 10,

where they agreed to suspend their control and legal responsibilty for north cyprus



it should help their political leaders register some modest progress in stemming the

march of time eating away at a belief in one day reclaiming former "lost territories"

SuziSuz


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Posts: 135

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 18:00

MSG 68



changed the photo to one from the webpage

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
28/06/2011 18:45

Thanks suzisuz, want to make sure everyone recognises him on Thursday at court - tee hee

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
28/06/2011 18:48

suzisuz How many purchasers bought from Aga after 2005 i.e after the first European Arrest Warrant

SuziSuz


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Posts: 135

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 19:50

Robb fell out with Unwin in 2005 and Robb started his own marketing company Amaranta Estates which was based in Ozankoy. How many were sold from here I dont know, but he had a high profile marketing camapign even at one point offering a 4WD as a competition prize. Most victims however did buy via Unwins when he had the sole agency for AGA Properties.

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 20:03

That's interesting, seems I have some information on Unwins in my 'material for articles file' must look it out.

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
28/06/2011 21:26

Mark & Hayran Unwin are the illusive butterflies! who marketed the Grub that laid in their labyrinth! took their combined Pollen to the workers, who fell hook,line & sinker (I know complete idiots)!!!!!! myself included.............. The illusive butterflies then took a very large chunk of the the Grubs "Honey" and still today 8 years later continue to pollinate or pollute the TRNC atmosphere



"Just a Airy Fairy Story"?

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
28/06/2011 21:29

I wonder which paper this week will have the best article,cyprus today or cyprus star!



Im going for cyprus star for maybe some home truths

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 21:31

Is that the same Unwins who advertise on this forum?

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 21:41

Amanda (mess 79)



Personally I'm going for "The Cats Weekly" but who the hell knows

erolz


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Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 21:46

0maintenace can I ask if you work or used to work for Cyprus Star ? Is such a question fair and reasonable given your post 79 ?

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 21:53

Erolz.



Of course you can ask.



I said that paper as they do try to offer the news as it is,ok and with the odd spelling mistake,but we are all not perfect.

Just wondering what the front page headlines will be about this week in the CT and then CS, im sure both papers will carry the GJR story.

But which will give it as it is,which will be biased or which will sit on the fench and just report and offer something new that we might not of read or heard,most stories in the papers here are taken from other papers or internet,or thats what it seems.

Im just wondering if 1 of the papers gets a special story,sort of from the horses mouth so to speak



So i took a stab in the dark @ the CS for an exclusive !

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 21:56

So I can ask, that is good to know. Thanks. Can I have an answer now ?

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
28/06/2011 21:57

I work for myself.

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 22:00

Amanda (mess 85)



I thought you worked for David?

erolz


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Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 22:04

Why it needs to be so mysterious I do not really understand ? Its a simple question. Have you or do you work for the Cyprus Star, either as a self employed contractor for them or as an employee. Still your choice I guess.

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 22:20

Patrica.



Every one thinks i work for him,i work with him,we work together,i am my own boss.



Erolz.

Im a freelancer

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 22:23

Sorry to be so persistent 0maintenance, have you freelanced for the Cyprus Star? For Cyprus Today ? Both or just one or neither ?

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 22:29

Erolz.



Have you not seen my back page article? in CS



Buy it this weekend,i might give you a mention if you wish



JOKE



Oh you are very persistent !



Never done any freelancing for CT



Have you got a camera,cyprus star where looking for a photographer.



Through the key hole and ubeenframed & all that malarky

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 22:39

Thanks for the answer 0maintenance, finally.



No I have not seen your back page article in the Cyprus Star, as it is not a paper I buy. Untill now there has been no particular reason for that, just habit really that I buy the CT from before the Star existed. Now however I have a reason for not buying it, given that you do freelance work for them and what I have experienced of your behaviour here. It is certainly enough for me to influence such a decision.



Ubeenframed indeed ! Or more like Ivebeenframed when I am writing it.

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 22:45

Erolz.



My page is maybe above you,better to stick to what you know best mate,CT



influence is a great thing



Good nite.



Dont be sat up all night waiting for washerman to post.



Get some shuteye,david said you looked like you needed a good nights kip

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
28/06/2011 23:24

Back to the thread misunderstood!!!



Are more arrest warrants to follow???



We will see?

Bradus


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Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
29/06/2011 00:22

Lets see what happens when Robb is extradited on July 13th.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
29/06/2011 01:02

A quote from the cyprus mail



If Robb does appear in a Cyprus court, Greek Cypriot judges will not however be focusing on the losses of unsuspecting Britons, but on the losses of the Greek Cypriot landowners whose properties he dealt in.



As Greek Cypriot lawyer Constantis Candouna told the Cyprus Mail yesterday, “It is the Greek Cypriot refugees who are the victims. For the Brits, it was as if they were buying stuff off the back of a lorry”. He advised Britons who had been cheated by Robb to apply to courts in the UK or the north.

erolz


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Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
29/06/2011 01:14

0maintenace msg 92 said "My page is maybe above you,better to stick to what you know best mate,CT"

Your page may well be a bit 'above' me. I too, many moons ago dabbled in freelance journalism, writing a few comissioned pieces for a small UK rag called the Telegraph ;)

Influence is indeed a great thing, but having it often is very different from thinking you have it. In my experience those who really have it are the last to boast about it, where as those who merely think they have it are somewhat different.

A good night to you too.

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
29/06/2011 01:18

philbailey; "Is that the same Unwins who advertise on this forum?"

Yes! They are the same Unwins who advertise here - but I have warned the owner İzzet of their status, hoping their "spider web" will be erased from this forum once and for all! What is worse, many English people fooled by their ads (which are all against the trade descriptions act) are still making the mistake of sending their children to their school, only to realize too late, they had been robbed!

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
29/06/2011 06:49

I think more European Arrest Warrants will be resurrected and I wouuld not be surprised if Estate Agents were next. Especially if they sold AGA properties.

araneae


Joined: 24/06/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
29/06/2011 07:31

Message 96



paragraph 3 so very true.



oft those who claim to have it don't or are viewed with contempt.

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
29/06/2011 07:53

Dont forget big court hearing for K5 tomorrow, seems from what I am hearing, some cases will continue through July which is normally summer recess, hope so.



Unwins, a nice little pieces involving them on its way from NCFP.

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
29/06/2011 07:54

piece (SINGULAR) not pieces, although who knows what else my researcher might find.

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
29/06/2011 08:39

Erolz



influence or the flatulence you talk, i was just quoting you from your message 91,why do you think i would not offer you the answer you do desparatley wanted,as i knew you had a silly comment to make,anyway i do not wish to take this thread of topic chatting rubbish with you,have a good day and get out and enjoy some current bun.



message 95. interesting comments from the judge in the south,it shall be a political arena for several months,i shall not be surprised if they do not televise this trial in there kangaroo court/s in the south,either way we shall have to wait to see how it is all played out as im sure the whole world will be watching and im very sure some one else also knows this,its like a game of chess,could be a very clever move,for who,that you shall have to wait and see.

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
29/06/2011 09:55

Cyprus Today quotes the Head of the Constructors Union giving the Government some much needed advice

Somehat ironic since Cafer Gurcafer. who offers this advice is also named as one of the Directors of Aga

Development Limited - you really could not make it up.

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
29/06/2011 16:08

More European Arrest Warrants - go to NCFP, WHO WILL BE NEXT.

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
30/06/2011 06:24

Things were moving so quckly yesterday, Pauline ended up writing 3 articles on NCFP.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
30/06/2011 07:11

the beginning of the end for the good old TRNC ??



One thing is for sure - the GC's ain't going to let go.....



They may have lost 40 years ago - but they are having the last laugh.........

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
30/06/2011 07:35

Predicting the future is a mugs game NN, so perhaps you are well suited to the role ? Many GC thought that they were having the last laugh when they gained rulings at the ECHR against Turkey in regards to property in the North of Cyprus. In the end they were not laughing so much when it ultimately led to the IPC being set up.

The facts are to date of the many thousands who have had problems with buying property in the North and who have lost considerable sums only one of those have done so because of the 'disputed' nature of title deeds. The execution of the EU arrest warrant against Gary Robb, orignaly issued in 2005, may mark a change in this reality for buyers of property in the North on disputed title. THen again it may not. The original ECHR rulings might have resulted in such a change for buyers here and the Orams case might have resulted in such, yet in fact neither did in the end.

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
30/06/2011 07:45

nick, none of have any illusions or foresight and neither do you.