Wanna sell your property.....The Russians are coming...

tucobird


Joined: 15/10/2009
Posts: 45

Message Posted:
06/07/2011 23:10

Want to sell your property sell it to the Russians as we have now sold ours and the money is in the bank. Mind you make sure you have your Kocan, water, elec and taxes up to date.



Goodbye TRNC glad your old news now.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
06/07/2011 23:20

Спасибо и удачи - Thanks and Good Luck ! ;)

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
06/07/2011 23:24

Good Luckl tucobird, I hope the Russians are happy

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 00:12

...wonder how the gc's would react to this sort of thing?

after all, officially, cyprus-nicosia and russia are "close"



but I can only imagine their response would be twofold:



firstly blank denial, or call it studied disinterest if you like



secondly, when every tom ivan and olga

start buying up "their" property, a case of "et tu brute"



perhaps time for a compromise then? ...don't wait up!



tucobird I hope I don't do you an injustice if the place

was originally turk/cypriot rather than exchange trnc title

SAFFI


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 342

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 01:31

I hope the russians are not coming, Money investment regardless they will destroy the whole ambiance of the TRNC, The South is suffering from their presence regarding tourism , Everyone who comes back from the south to the UK said they will not return because of the russian invasion ! Take heed !!!

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 03:29

saffi,



I hear what you say but despite claims to the contrary

they are generally shrewd and discriminating buyers

and they seem subdued compared to the well-advertised

shenanigans of inebriated brits around the med



and in north cyprus there are very few buyers of any

sort nowadays, the british having been badly clobbered

by the withdrawal of mortgages on their uk house

...for investment overseas



there are plenty of things that can affect the ambiance in

north cyprus:

think of flytipping, changes due to emigration, abandoned

projects, the embargo, insensitive development etc



north cyprus cannot continue to survive on easy money

transferred from the motherland

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 06:50

Msg 6 - If you had not said the magic word "embargo" you could have been talking about the UK, so what's the difference anyway and which is the motherland - Turkey or USA?

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 07:02

andre514/msg 6: 'north cyprus cannot continue to survive on easy money



transferred from the motherland'



It seems to have done pretty well so far if the swelling numbers of Porsche Cayennes, Range Rovers, Hummers, Mercs and BMW's are anything to go by!



One wonders if any Turkish 'top brass' have ever noticed this, or pondered about it, as they ease themselves into their Tofashes back home, and thinking: 'Next time we go to Kibris, we'll politely ask them to kindly cease this increasingly vulgar exhibition of OUR wealth!'

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 08:47

Not just Russians......Just had a few days with a lady from Azerbaijan,who will be active selling property to her Country people for investment or retirement.

And they have direct flights to/from Ercan !!!!!



If EEC do not there act together and recognise TRNC I fear the Island will "go East",

or maybe not a bad idea,no more drunken and moaning Brits

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 09:52

Saffi



re msg 5



>>I hope the russians are not coming, Money investment regardless they will destroy the whole ambiance of the TRNC<<





Yeah, right ! :D



>>The South is suffering from their presence regarding tourism , Everyone who comes back from the south to the UK said they will not return because of the russian invasion ! Take heed !!!<<



Oh yes, and 'they' are saying the same in Thailand, Egypt, Turkey and all the other destinations where former Soviet folk are now visiting...



Naturally, I 'biased' being married to a Russian - but your sweeping generalisations / exaggerations don't do you much credit..



Personally, speaking I've seen far more to be ashamed of re the conduct of drunken UK / Irish folk ..

PaulW



Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 651

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 10:06

Mark

>>Personally, speaking I've seen far more to be ashamed of re the conduct of drunken UK / Irish folk ..



That's the last time you come to our house

Jonesy299


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 367

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 10:18

I'm sure the Russians don't want to spoil the current local ambience we experience and enjoy - they too will want to enjoy the traditional Full English Breakfasts / Man U v Man C televised football derby / Pub Quiz Night / Friday night Fish and Chips / Kareoke etc

cyprusman3



Joined: 09/06/2009
Posts: 297

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 10:54

Ha Ha Ha spot on Jonesy hee hee

matula


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 647

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 11:06

Personally speaking we sold our apartment to russians on the 23rd March complete with Kocan, all bills and taxes paid and at this point in time still haven't received a cent! Naomi Mehmet is dealing with them now.

Further to that in our complex of 17 apartments 5 have been bought by Russians and since January 2010 not one of them have paid any maintenance charges of £20 a month!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 12:07

Here we go AGAIN..



The sins of the few.. blighting the many ... Former SU folk are ( in my experience) normally the most reliable payers

matula


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 647

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 12:48

Six out of six is a high percentage mmmmmmm!

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 12:50

it still looks like sour grapes



though they will have to shape up maintenance-wise, after all, living in a resort is not quite

as individualistic as slinging up a datcha in the woods using prefabricated components



having bought into a lot of south cyprus, the russians etc will logically seek out northern shores:

and obviously the old lion is growling, but can do very little



what is especially galling is that the uk, having agreed to pay a *million pounds for cyprus in 1878,

and heavily influenced the local culture (only place in the med where you can get a good cuppa?)

fings just ain't wot they used to be, ie.,cash-strapped britain, and an isolated euro-zapped continent



...or better perhaps to go along with evelyn waugh's "abroad is bloody"?



*assuming john bull ever did hand over the purchase price, nobody seems very sure on that score

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 12:53

oh, and if pikey ever comes back from exile to torment us,



do expect him to suggest adding "psssst..." in front of this thread's title



...only joking

Dixie Normus


Joined: 22/02/2008
Posts: 820

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 13:28

Good news that anybodies coming to buy. Should be interesting to see what happens to some of of the local dodge pot builders if they start pissing off Ivan and his mates, may open up a new business opportunity in Knee cap repairs and bolt on limbs.



D.N

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 14:11

re16, matula



I appreciate you can only speak as you find !



BTW .. Are all these people REALLY Russians ? . I mean are some Ukrainian, or from Belarus ?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 14:51

D.N

I'd be most offended to your comments of re-19,pointing out that,the ones already here and bought are pussy cats.





Lucky for me that I'm not ex-pat from GB.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 15:36

Well said Andre, i am sure he would,lol.

moritzkatz


Joined: 27/02/2011
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 16:00

We sold our property to Russians last month. It was a nice experience having actually received more than our asking price and they picked up the tab for all other fees and expences: They also wanted us to retain a key for the house and car so we could continue visiting Cyprus until such time as they are prepared to live full time in Lapta. ( we did not do so)

They are a nice couple from the Ukraine and Azerbaijan who we hope will make many friends and will enjoy the property and life style N Cyprus has to offer. In time the island may realize the errors of their ways making if very difficult to again attract retired citizens of GB.

Jonesy299


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 367

Message Posted:
08/07/2011 12:01

I have said it before and I'll say it again - outside investment and a recovery of the building industry (with appropriate governance and control measures which the lack of has blighted the industry in the past) can only be a good thing.



I also think that lower end single house / villa purchases should be viewed a little less suspiciously - the buyers are probably nice people after all.....

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
09/07/2011 00:49

I cannot speak for any russians in the anecdotes above,

but although russia is in many ways a complicated and opaque country to live in,

it does not automatically mean that every property purchase is fraudulent



many things we would take for granted like simple international cash transfers

and use of cashpoints and credit are not the general rule over there



embarassingly british/irish/eu people are often viewed as unrealistically honest

and straightforward, and yet many russians also see the west as unfriendly



after their doors were unbolted twenty years ago, at least for those who could

afford it, a gradually increasing number of russians are looking south for property

since with hyperinflation followed by the 1998 crash nothing seems certain



...bear in mind the caucasus states are not welcoming, egypt has a host of

unresolved issues while another regular port of call, turkey may be seen as

a foretaste of turkish cyprus ...while the roc is already home turf

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
09/07/2011 00:56

Was G Robb a russian ?

were any of the people without houses now

conned by Russians

from what I have read more were British estate agents

tucobird


Joined: 15/10/2009
Posts: 45

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 18:34

Andre 514, in answer to msg 4 it was an Exchange Kocan Title..... So do you think it might be a lucky escape with hindsight?

Ko4ubei


Joined: 19/07/2011
Posts: 2

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 20:31

Hello to everybody. I even decided to register to post in here.



It is very interesting to read what Brits thinkibg bout us - Russians. And i can say you are almost right. Most of us is realy crazy and discourtesy people, so that is the reason why me going to move to NC - there is almost no Russians at the North Cyprus.



sorry for my awfull english

witch


Joined: 09/09/2010
Posts: 134

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 21:38

HI what agent did u sell ur house with and all the best to you

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 21:47

It would be nice to have some Russian input.



Welcome to the forum K04ubel.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 21:52

It would be nice to have some Russian input.



Welcome to the forum K04ubel.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 22:28

One can only assume that the dodgy developers. real estate agents, banks, etc., are gagging to taste a 'Molotov Cocktail' after they've conned one Russian too many!

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
19/07/2011 22:39

Dobryi vecher Denis msg 28



Dobro pozhalovat na Severnii Kipr



Kak v Rossii, v Moskve? Kogda vy sobiraetes pereezzhat na Sev Kipr?

Ko4ubei


Joined: 19/07/2011
Posts: 2

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 00:31

dumau 4to v october

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 02:18

tenakoutou message 32,



I wonder...



there are differences between the traditional british buyer and russians



firstly the ruskies will have learned from british mistakes ...and mainly buy resales too



secondly, a lot of the british buying power was fueled by unsustainabably cheap credit

that has been withdrawn, the russians have no such option and must take extra care

raidercruise


Joined: 07/06/2010
Posts: 237

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 08:46

Russian or Norwich...They investing only..

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:09

msg 36:



"they investing only"



assume you mean foreigners would not live here permanently



and....?

Sid447


Joined: 15/05/2009
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 11:45

Good and Bad everywhere you go,



I've worked and lived with both Russian and Brits and although Brits would have a similar sense of values, the Russians aren't so different really and in a lot of instances make better friends.



Their country isn't as politically correct as the UK & EU and it's maybe all the better for it.

When you consider one in six UK passport holders have an ethnic origin from either Africa, India or Pakistan the chance to meet and mix with a pleasantly different culture is nice imo.

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 12:06

Visitors from former soviet union countries find it very easy to visit Northern Cyprus in contrast to the ROC. My wife was Ukrainian by birth but is now a British citizen. Before she had a British passport gaining access to ROC was a nightmare. The woman at the consulate in Manchester was incredible rude and arrogant. Even when presented with my bank and pension statements she said she couldn't be sure she would return to the UK after a two week visit to friends in Pathos. And you need to repeat this in person for every visit.

By contrast since completing our house we have been visited by a number of friends from Ukraine who loved every minute in the north and had no problem getting there through Istanbul in a very short time.



Mark, maybe our wives should set up an estate agent for former su countries they couldn't do any worse than the ones already working there!!

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
20/07/2011 20:49

erwin msg 39,



this is a very valid point that had never occured to me



I always feel defensive about the north if it is just a question of cheaper prices



...dunno what is provable 'bout quality of life, but the scenery is superb to be sure



oh well, suppose I shall cop it when you-know-who fakes it back on to cyprus 44:



"psst... wanna buy a cheap property that fell off the back of a KRAZ 214 lorry"?