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Chessman


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03/11/2008 15:32

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With apologies to my Welsh speaking countrymen, let's stick to English only!



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7702913.stm



No1Doyen


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03/11/2008 17:01

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Chessman, it's got to be bad when they can't even read there own writing!



Lilli



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hi chessma could only happen to us, you have to laugh. take care lili



simbas



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shwmae , careful boys , don't generalise , and lump us all together !

simbas



Chessman


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03/11/2008 17:11

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Absolutely No1. LOL



I do believe in maintaining the Welsh language as part of the heritage but there has to be a limit. It's not as if most of us can speak more than a few words or phrases anyway. Certainly not enough to understand many of the signs.



Chessman


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03/11/2008 17:20

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Simbas



I knew I shouldn't have posted this or I would incur your wrath, if I wasn't careful! I am still proud to be Welsh.

(phew, I might have got away with it!)



fire starter


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03/11/2008 17:29

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i totally agree chessman,

i taught both my kids cockney rhyming slang, another language which is dying out.

be proud of your heritage what ever it is!



simbas



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03/11/2008 19:34

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cymru am byth

nos da , simbas



Groucho



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03/11/2008 19:59

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fire starter



Cockney rhyming slang another language?



I don't think so.... at best a regional dialect... at worst the misuse of unrelated words to exclude others from a secretive conversation...



It may be contorversial but heck let's not get into calling this a separate language....



MUSIN M


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03/11/2008 20:42

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groucho



now i know what pike those for a living.



Chessman


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04/11/2008 11:23

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Groucho



You may have a point but I would hope that Cockney rhyming slang doesn't disappear. It's amazing how many Brits. (not just Cockneys) from all walks of life use it, sometimes without realising it. It's part of our history and it's fun and we need as much as we can get!

Must go, someone on the Dog and bone! Predictable eh?



breezyboy


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04/11/2008 12:25

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Anybody see the Welsh roadsign in last Saturday's paper.

The translator had picked up the paper from somebody's desk when they weren't there. The guyhad left his brain at home as had the signwriter.

The translation of English into Welsh painted on the Swansea sign read;

I am out of the office today etc etc....



Chessman


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04/11/2008 12:36

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breezyboy: See msg 1.



fire starter


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04/11/2008 13:14

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cockney rhyming slang was origionally used by the people of london, so that the police or their informers didn't know what was going on. underworld talk so to speak.

the usual words we use today are score, monkey, pony.(for money.)

they are the most still used.

it has developed over time and probably will go on doing so.

recent additions are "rock n roll" : dole. and "bob hope" : dope.



there is one saying which my dad use to use and i don't know where it came from and it was "knackers". talking about bol---s. (i can remember him saying he was freezing his knackers off.)

can anyone enlighten me on that one?



Chessman


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fire starter



Great post.



Knackers/knackered is very well known to me! This link may help although there are probably many explanations.



http://www.answers.com/topic/knacker



fire starter


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thanks for that chessman!

loads of meanings but still doesn't sort of explain where the slang came from regarding his knackers so to speak.

i know the knackered part, but it still only says its an british/australian slang for knackers.



i could add "cobblers awls" and "orchestra stalls" to that.



if i keep on like this admin will be on overtime,lol.



Chessman


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04/11/2008 14:48

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Firestarter. LMAO!



Don't be concerned about Admin. they are too knac...tired!



(note for Admin. That's a joke!)



fire starter


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04/11/2008 14:58

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don't you adam and eve it.



Groucho



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04/11/2008 15:52

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Although the word knackered comes from the knackers yard where an animal which was on it's last legs was only fit for being put down...



Maybe knackers comes from association with the Knackwurst sausage... just a thought... maybe indecent but a thought all the same....



rayz1


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07/11/2008 19:20

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Knackered does mean your on your last legs and does originate from knackers yard another word meaning the same thing is Ime slaughterd also from knackers yard slaughter house also meaning on your last legs ready to drop after being slaughtered after reading this Ifeel cream crackered



1python


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just left the rubba and aving a ball o chalk down the frog to me slaughter where me old carvers waiting to collar me gregory for going on the lash and i will ave to keep me minces on me nanny as there is a bottle and arf in me sky and if she cops for it im borasaic. ave to go bo peep now as im cattled



no1doyen


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I've just bogged me kettle and it won't be long before I'm climbing the apples myself



1python


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08/11/2008 07:15

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what a blinding kip that was..up early as im off to sandown for a day on the turf to waste my kids inheritance gambling...mrs python moaning as ive left a load of skin in bed as i slithered out...well what does she expect i am in moult and by toight ill be lucky to avethe shirt on my back



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