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Rinny


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Hi all!

I could really do with some advice if you don't mind, my husband was talking to someone at work who visits Cyprus a few times a year to sing in clubs and he has said that my husband would get work easily over there, he is a bus/coach driver.

We have spent the last 3 weeks looking into the possibility of moving over, England is going downhill fast. Due to the recession we have negative equity on our house, lost our business and been declared bankrupt (discharged 2 years ago) we have managed to get back on our feet and plodding along but really want a fresh start.

What I need to know is is it easy getting rental property over there? We would like a 3 bed villa with pool, not over looked. I also have 3 Great Danes I can not live without so their safety is very important. We would be looking at renting for unto 5 years to get used to how things work out there.

Also is there jobs for bus/coach drivers? What is the pay like for this type of job?

Any advice would be great

Tha



philbailey


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If you need to work

could be a problem



No1Doyen


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Your husband has been misadvised by his friend. There are no jobs here for Coach Drivers - in fact there are not that many jobs available full stop.



philbailey


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Do you mean North or South Cyprus?



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another wind up right ?



No1Doyen


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Could be Rowlo...



Bradus


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I think you mean South Cyprus? If you think living in England is costly, you will have a shock at prices in a Euro Zone.



I wish you luck but would be surprised if your husband secured a job as a driver in the North.



Rinny


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We would not need to work, will have between 30k-50k

It is Northern Cyprus we are looking at and no this is not "another wind up"

Thanks for being so kind and understanding, I can see why people in Cyprus are nicer than England, maybe I would get a warmer welcome in London me thinks!



No1Doyen


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Sorry to say this but 30-50k wont last long over here. Certainly not for the timescale you mentioned.



dalartokat


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Rinny, your 31 years old and looking to live in NC for 5 years and renting on 30-50k, without going too much into your business, if your looking to pay rent and live on this amount for the next 5 years, without working, in my opinion this amount of money would not be enough.



Even if you have the money separate for the purchase of your home and decide to stay and do not work how are you going to support yourselves until retirement and beyond?



As I understand, all the buses are privately owned by TC families who own the different routes and all the drivers are either relatives or TC employed by the families. My ex landlord(Caglas-Karakum)) owned the route from Lapta through to Girne and beyond Karakum. All the drivers used to sleep at the back of the Caglas market(Karakum) and used to wash in an old sink in the back garden. The father and son used to drive the buses also. I cannot imagine much has changed if this family are still running this business.



Rinny


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Darlatokat, thank you, at last a bit of advice that actually is advise and not a sl**ing off.

The business here would easily cover any living expenses etc, we do not want to move for money but for the lifestyle, my husband is the rare type of bloke who will not sit on his butt not working, but as it sounds like everyone must be a millionaire out there and us lowly folk who works hard for a living is not worthy we may just look into somewhere a little friendlier like Iraq maybe!

On the holidays we have had over there it looked a beautiful friendly place, but maybe not?



Rinny


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As I said, we are back on our feet. New businesses set up, income of around 3,000 a month from school bus tenders that will continue running when we move, we are also investing in a few more coaches so room for more tenders which is more income, my husband is the type that doesn't like to sit around on benefits ect and will always work hence asking if he can get work.

All I wanted was a bit of advice, not the kind of schoolground banter that tries to put you down. I may be female but I am not stupid.

Thanks anyway.



Roomy


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Rinny, If you stick around you will soon learn to sort the wheat from the chaff here, some posters will help you regardless because that is the way they are made and others will go out of their bored little way to stifle the life out of everyone in their sight.



Others will come along with some sound advice.



Rinny


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Thank you Roomy, I honestly thought I had put all the playground banter behind me years ago, I will see if I get any serious advice and take it from there,



Woodspeckie


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Have you been given the sort of advice you did not want to hear? first you ask if there are jobs for your husband, then you say you don't need to work, then he can't sit around so will work, have you heard about the problems getting work permits? I don't think anyone is trying to put you down just giving sound advice as some people there have had bad experiences, deportation for people found working without a permit etc., if you take dogs with you and you don't settle what will happen to the dogs it's not so easy to get them back to the UK. Don't take the advice as schoolground banter, listen to people.



Roomy


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I think the lady said under cross examination that they don't need to work as they have an income but her hubby needs to work cos that's what he likes to do and will probably go mental if he doesn't, I added the last bit myself.



Roomy


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Rinny, from what I have gathered here since I joined is that it is a lovely place to live if you don't need to work because work is hard to come by and if lucky enough to find it is extremely low paid.



And you right about renting.Sorted, now you know as much as those that have lived there for years which doesn't say much.



cooper


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Rinny take no notice of the doom and gloom merchants, if Peter Schmeichel is one of your Great Danes then you will be in safe hands )



Woodspeckie


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Roomy. But she asked for advice but doesn't want to listen, because it's not what she wants to hear. Probably never heard of work permit needed to work and the problems getting one just taking a mates word he will get a job, probably his mate sings over there without the licence he should have to work singing in clubs there.



Roomy


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09/07/2011 22:41

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No Woodie, a couple of posters immediately dismissed her post/question as a wind up, that is what upset her a little.



TRNCvictim


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09/07/2011 22:43

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Rinny (mess 1)



The best advice anyone can give you on entering the TRNC is Rent don't buy! and eventually if you do decide to buy anything from a shack to a new build "NO DEEDS NO MONEY" needs to be embedded deep in your brain that advice is for both North & South! so beware everyone including any so called "Lawyers" "Solicitors" or "Advocat's" they line their own pockets! and there is no law to prevent them from doing so!



As for finding work, it would probably be easier in the South if your not of Turkish Cypriot origin! whatever you decide, I wish you all the luck in the world!



By the way I'm not bored! like many others before and after me, have had to learn the hard way :-( and don't want anyone to have to walk in my shoes!



dalartokat


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Rinny, then good luck to you and never thought for one minute that you are stupid..... So long as you have the regular income then your be fine. There is nothing stopping you once your there from looking around and talking to people. So long as your health is good and you have made arrangements for Healthcare which can take a large chunk of your income. Learn also the language where possible and also mix with the locals, that was one mistake I made(probably one of many), alienating some locals, trying to help, I saw it as interference. Humouring and politeness, saying thank you, but making your own decisions from what you learn. It will be difficult, but theres loads of people that have made a success of it there and a lot of help should you need it.



Sort out any problems as soon as they arise, find out who your Mukhtar is and always speak to him in a calm, blondie, dumby way and never call his children a"problem"!!!!!!!!!!!!! and you will be OK.

Regards Sylvie



shrimp


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we were thinking of doing exactly what you are intending to do, but after reading all the advice on here over the last 12 months have decided to stay put and just enjoy as many holidays as we can in the north of Cyprus......it was a hard pill to swallow as we had made up our minds but common sense got in the way eventually.....best of luckx



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I'm more concerned as to what would happen to the 3 Great Danes if it doesn't work out. I know its supposed to be going to be easier to take animals back to the UK in 2012 but jabs and so forth will cost quite a sum for three dogs. Plus, gorgeous dogs that they are, I'm not sure that many people would rent a property to anyone owning 3 of them.



Tango1



Rinny


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Thanks everyone, I will happily take advice when advice is given, not when I'm told you can't do this so don't even bother trying, I am sure many people have moved out there with less then we have available and have stayed for many years,

Roomy is quite right about my husband, he has always worked from the age of 15 and could not have it any other way, we do not need to work, it is just how he is. We know you need work permits, we know the north is not EU, and we are not just taking a mates word for it, hence asking in the first place!

We were planning on renting until we find out how things work, not just jumping in feet first, I was asking for advice so we can get everything straight and not make mistakes.



stelee77


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I also plan to move to the trnc soon,i have asked many questions on this site and have not had the negative comments you have,i think you will find there are some bitter and twisted people on here who did not use there brain at all,and have lost out big time,or simply cant afford to live there no more.Why they feel the need to come on this site every night to moan and tell everyone how bad and how hard it all is ,is weird.



If you have been there and you love it and your fed up with the uk,and you can afford it why not,do your homework unlike some of these whingers and you should be fine.



But the comments about work and permits are true.



I cant believe anyone would decide not to move there based on negative comments on this site.



I think roomy's comment hit the nail on the head.



ferry13


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we are also coming out to NC in Sept. but we invested a deposit to the Port Cyprium marina in Esentepe, and we are worried as we paid a lage deposit for a berth in 2010 but have heard nothing from the owners either by email or mobile nos. anyone out there know whats going on, or have we been swindled! and were our friends correct in tellig us not to invest in NC. Jane.



stelee77


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09/07/2011 23:28

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what a wind up cant belive i got sucked in



Roomy


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Take everyone and everything at face value initially and take it from there.I understand the paranoia regarding first posts but you have to give the benefit of the doubt, no harm no foul.



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OMG - Suggest you take a good long look at Stop the Blackmail in North Cyprus facebook page. YOu found C44 so you should have no problem finding that. Or try ABAG's blog, SHOULD GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR THE PLACE.



stelee77


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Sorry if i sound insensetive i felt a bit sorry for the thread starter,i fell for the wind up,i feel really sorry for anyone who has been ripped of or cant get deeds ect.



But the truth is there are lots of people who would not get ripped of me being one of them,and as for buying off plan its a risky business anywhere in the world.



sorry if anyone was offended,just annoyed by some peoples non stop slating of the place.



metin


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Please be aware that most Turkish Cypriots are not big animal lovers. There is poison laid everywhere, even can be thrown into your garden at night.......



I'm not trying to put you off, but telling you what could happen. If you love your dogs, you need to be aware.



chriswife


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phew bit heated this one..... Hi Rinny hope your plans are going well remember '' God loves a trier'. We are moving out next week I have a job lined up and hubby has voluntary work and a TEFL to do as he is same ilk as your hubby. I reckon from this end that the work issue is spot on and we are glad we knew in advance(my employer warned us) but found some messages very upsetting on here, I have had some lovely contacts who put my mind at rest and now I ignore the...bleeps.

Whatever inspires someone to start a fresh challenge should be applauded far better this than to sit moaning about your lot and also agree that if on balance things don't stack up look to another option like the poster just holidaying or the idea of other locations.

we only get one shot at this life and only WE have to live with the consequences i am sorry you had a rough start on here but welcome and if you do 'jump' would love to see you for a drink haha.



chriswife


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How can people go for the jugular with



Hi all!



I could really do with some advice if you don't mind,



as a polite intro



softly soflty.................................



negativenick


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don't doo it Rimmy- you'll end up all sad and twisted like the majority of the folk on cy44.



chriswife


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so that's what happened needs medication that does.



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Rinny there is a lot of people who reply to questions on here who have nothing better else to do but give smart Alec comments. They think they are hilarious. I like yourself have posted questions and just get people replying with worthless comments which is very sad. If you have 3k per month to live on you can have a fantastic life out here. The locals are friendly the food is excellent . There's no council tax tom pay but you will need private medical insurance. The weather is fantastic.the best thing is you won't me too many British people especially not like in Spain where there is all chavs and losers trying to work in a bar or cafe or trying to open a bar or cafe.



rowlo



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msg37 , are you for real ? every other post is need a job , and most are from the uk , most dont even know how to do bank transfers , how to get residency , importing the car , can i get my pension paid in trnc , oh and how much does it cost to live in trnc ? its not smart alex comments , its the facts , harsh as they might be , its the truth .



TRNCvictim


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NN (mess 35)



I should rest your case



xx



girne 29


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''my husband is the type that doesn't like to sit around on benefits ''



Surely you know that will not be a choice in NC .,'



'I am sure many people have moved out there with less then we have available and have stayed for many years, ''



You are correct but if you were sure anyway,

,why the post in the first place,?At least by not posting you wouldnt have to put up with any negative comments that dont reinforce your ideas of living and working in NC,and we wouldnt have to put up with your patronising atitude.



If that sounds unfriendly then its no more unfriendly than someone pretending they are looking for advice when really they are looking for confirmation of a plan and then slag off anyone who points out any problems with said plan.



Your husband will have no problem getting a job, and your dogs will be fine. You will have no problem when you come to purchase your villa. Okay.



stelee77


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Thats right grumpy old man.



I plan to move there soon im going to buy a property which is built on greek cypriot land from a well known british criminal fugitive.



Im going to let my dogs loose on the streets so they can be badly treated by cypriots as they are such bad people.



boring



Pete123


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Goodluck Rinny - with plans to move. We are moving from UK to TRNC on the 8th Aug - belongings have been sent out for shipping and in process of getting things sorted etc. Its both an exciting but nervous time. But life's to short not to try something different!



Bradus


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I don't think that anyone is suggesting that Rinny does not bother moving to the TRNC. However if people really want to move to the TRNC is it not best to go being fully aware of the problems some have experienced? Surely this approach gives people the knowledge to deal with any move and avoid the pitfalls. Is it not about making informed decisions?



It is very easy to give up homes and jobs and uproot children, only to discover your finances do not allow you to lead the life you had envisaged. Rinny began the thread by stating that they had just come through bankrupcy and her husband needed a job and how much was the going rate for a driver?It was not until further posts were made that she disclosed they had 3 thousand a month to live on.



On reflection I think most answered truthfully. It is difficult to get employment. Wages are poor and the cost of living is equal to the UK.



Bradus


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I hope all works out well for you but please take a balanced view. If you are aware of the good and bad points regarding living in Cyprus, you will avoid many of the things that may well lessen the happiness you are striving for.



Stelee77,

Very few bought properties from a "known British Criminal" Most of the corruption experienced in the property purchase procedure was with TC or Turkish Developers. To imply that you will be safe dismisses the real danger that exists, that you will have no legal protection when you purchase. Doing your homework will reduce the risks but no way can you completely safeguard your investment.



I hope you see this as good advice rather than another poster being negative but it might give you a more healthy view if you researched memorandums, PTP and perhaps a few case studies like Boyut, Santa Fe, Sea Terra & Mortgages. Also go to HBPG meeting.



Best to be proactive rather than reactive, isn't it?



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