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johnty


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05/11/2008 14:32

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4 people have been deported for not having work permits today. Someone dobbed them in. So beware anybody out there that you might upset could have the same treatment. Rightly or wrongly do feel sorry for them



Chessman


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I know this may sound unkind but there are many people here who DO get work permits and pay their taxes and I therefore have little sympathy for those that don't.



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Any idea whether the deportees were Brits, Turks or what? And I take it as read that Mr Robb is allowed to stay safe and sound.



Lilli


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HI PTEPIKE THEY ARE BTITS AMAZING THAT ROBB CAN STAY WHAT HAS HE GOT ON THIS GOVERNMENT



Aga Buyers A G


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As we have said many times



" it's not WHO You know - But WHAT you Know "



;0)



http://latchfords.spaces.live.com/default.aspx



winnie-pooh


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This is really sad case i know the people involved and what makes it worse is it was english who reported them.



Aga Buyers A G


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Why is it that some people don't want to see others succeed ?



is it jealousy or just sheer British blo*dy mindedness



Is nosiness, 'squealing' , gossiping and nastiness just a British trait - We sometimes think so !



Groucho



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Gary Robb was granted TRNC Citizenship... I don't know how he was able get the authorities to acquiesce so quickly when everybody else has to go through hoops to get the chance.... but it is a fact... so he's not likely to get exiled in the near future...



As for Brits dobbing in Brits... it takes all sorts in life and some people are not happy unless they are causing others grief... it's sad but there you are...









mickey rourke


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Must say that from my perspective as well I would without question report ANYONE who was working illegally either here or anywhere else, why should I pay my dues to society when others think they can abuse the system and get away with it Brits or not it dosent matter

Groucho do you work 'on the side' perhaps

Winnie pooh you should be ashamed of yourself knowing these people were taking work illegally and not reporting them, tut tut

Well said chessman



Groucho



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Mickey Rourke "Groucho do you work 'on the side' perhaps"



Work, God forbid.... on the other side, I take it you mean either in the South or on the other side of the law?



Well I don't do either, I am retired and I do as little as possible actual work..



I am trying to catch-up on all the reading I should have done throughout my life already and trying to raise funds for the Marine Turtle Conservation Project.





come_on_aylin


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I can vouch for Groucho, believe me he does as little as possible....



puppylover



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Have to agree with Chessman and Mickey Rourke....if the punishment in the UK were as stiff as they are here it would make people think twice about making claims that they are not entitled to for which the hard working tax payer pays for. Plus the country would not be in the state it is in.



As Mickey Rourke says why should some people pay their dues and others not.

At the end of the day these people knew the risks of working here without a work permit so as hard as it sounds I have little sympathy for them.



Whistler


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06/11/2008 06:57

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I know who reported them, but I must point out they did not just report them, they paid a very well known Solicitor in Kyrenia to do the business for them.

Apparently Immigration were very sympathetic towards them but it went past that right to the top. At the same time I agree it`s best to stay within the law but they could at least have waited for the authorities to catch up with them. There are so many here doing the same and this was a very nice family.



AlsancakJack


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Brit expats at their best again.



Chessman


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Aga Buyers AG Msg 7.



Interesting comments bearing in mind your situation with Gary Robb. It doesn't seem very consistent, unless I have the wrong end of the stick.



AJ Msg 14.



Relating to what? Brits breaking the law or Brits complaining that others have broken the law.





AlsancakJack


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Chessman

Both!



Chessman


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AJ



LOL!



Aga Buyers A G


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Chessman



There's quite a bit of difference between stating the facts about something/someone that personally affects ones (100's of persons) personal/financial situations, but squealing on others just to be spiteful is a little different don't you think.



If these persons that were working illegally had a personal effect on those that squealed lives fair enough - perhaps there is not enough details on the original story



but as for Gary Robb, his actions have had a serious effect on 100's of innocent people's financial, mental and health.....need we go on



anyhow on a lighter note Gary's mother Mavis did encourage Gary to address his victims..........



http://latchfords.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!AED4FE7679CA3C33!1373.entry



which goes to show although we are owed thousands - we still manage to ' look on the bright side of life '



enjoy



ABAG

Pat, Sue & Sandra

xxxxxxxxx



Chessman


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Aga Buyers AG ''There's quite a bit of difference between stating the facts about something/someone that personally affects ones (100's of persons) personal/financial situations, but squealing on others just to be spiteful is a little different don't you think''.



So 'squealing' on others who are breaking the law is just spiteful? I think not!



In any event, I really don't care what the reasons were. They were breaking the law.There are many people here who get their work permits and pay their taxes, why should it be different for others.



BTW, good luck with your endeavours.





Aga Buyers A G


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Thanks Chessman



You are right, its must be a nightmare for those trying to work legally



xxxxxxx



authentichoccie


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What sort of business were these poor people in? Was it a rival company that grassed them up??



Littlenige



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Name and shame the grass.



Chessman


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Nige: And the criminals?



PtePike



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Come on, let's stop pussyfooting around in case innocent people fall under suspicion. Who were the deported ones, and what and where were they working?



Nemika



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i dont think they are criminals this is very unfair. as when you start work for an employer they tell you they will sort your work permit out its not their falt if their employer didnt do it for them. ard those that dont work out here why should we worry its not like they spunging off our tax money are they. i feel sorry for them



britvic



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They were two young men (early twenty's) singing in bars, lovely lads, also one of their parent's.



BillyB


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06/11/2008 10:58

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Im not one to gossip, but I know who it is.All i can say is the peace talks have been postponed for the time being.



Chessman


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Nemika. They broke the law. What else would you call it! Although in retrospect I do agree that compared with other crimes, the use of the word criminals is a little harsh.



Are you suggesting then that none of us should acquire work permits or pay taxes?

The law applies to all of us not just a ''chosen'' few. It is a bit bizzare to suggest otherwise, surely.



Why should TTRNC be differnt to other countries?



Chessman


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oops!

Should be: Why should TRNC be different to other countries?



simbas



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there is really no need to wallow in peoples misfortune , i do not condone working illegally , but you really can't pass comment without knowing the full story , no business of anyone's but the people's themselves anyway



Chessman


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Simbas.



I don't think anyone is wallowing in it, I hope not, anyway. We are just responding to the thread. It could easily have been hypothetical as no names have been mentioned.



I actually think it is our business. We abide by the law and it costs us money to do so. Illegally working in the UK or anywhere else, for that matter, is frowned on by the indigenous population. TRNC should be no different.



If everyone paid their taxes, then life may be a little more tolerant, economically speaking.



In any event, their misdemeanour (or whatever term anyone wishes to apply)has been punished and I wish them no further ills.



There appears to be divided opinion on this. Those that appear to have no issue with it and those who have an opposite view. I guess it is one of those areas that the two sides will have to agree to disagree.



Anyway, I have said my bit and am signing off on this thread, you will be relieved to know! LOL



Quarmby


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How many of those who advertise their taxi services on these forums have work permits?



simbas



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hi chessman , how are you ? bless you , we all have different views , thank god , this world would be very boring place if we did'nt , you take care

regards , simbas



Chessman


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Simbas



You are so right. We could speak in Welsh, that would confuse everyone!



I hope you are keeping well.



I am back in Caerphilly for 4 days in December and looking forward to it.



Kind Regards





stubs


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06/11/2008 11:53

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These people are known as "illegal immigrants".



End of story if you work without permits and are caught you have to pay the consequences.



AlsancakJack


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Everyone knows the rules, or perhaps they don't!



Lambousa Gordon


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The people concerned were not deported for not having work permits.



It seems their residency was not in order and a complaint was made by some other residents regarding this.



Littlenige



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Chessman





Nige: And the criminals? not with my voice I take it you were refering to the new blues band due to premiere at the festival ??





Littlenige



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Spot on Gordon.



Your efforts and work behind the the scenes have been made known to me AND you bought me a pint ........





Top bloke I am sure the peple cooncernced appreciate your efforts and those of all the others who helped then in their time of need, I would just like to add that Imy wife and I pass on our very best wishes to the parens concerned and hope wish them the best of luck what ever the future holds for them, their vallient efforts on Karsiyaka beach will be sadly missed.



To those pointing fingers and jibing without knowing all the facts I say shame on you.





Groucho



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Gordon,



What I don't understand is... how would these other complaining residents, know that the ones now deported who they were dobbing in, did not have residency sorted?



Or were these people so daft that they went around bragging that they don't do or need residency... in which case, of course, they dobbed themselves in....





Littlenige



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Groucho it may be best not to speulate on the forum they whys and wherefores of this ad saga I am led to believe there is a " history " between the parties involved and I am not party to this socan not comment.



But it is a sad saga and the people concerned have had to my knowledge a tough time of it out here at the hands of a certain builder and his co horts.



If Gordon wishes to through moe light on thesituation so be it But I see no good comming from it.



Chessman


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Nige msg 38.



You would be hopeless on a rugby field, that was a dreadful side step! LOL

I do agree with the last part of your final sentence in msg 41.



Casablanca



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For those that think the authorities here don't know what people are doing...think again! Having lived here many years and paid my dues I find that those that are working 'illegally' think they are being very clever and even brag about their position of not needing permits! Some residents too think that because they own property... they have a legal right to be here!



When the 'illegals' want to try and become 'legal' it's then they realise that the authorities know full well that they have 'worked' or overstayed their welcome...and then the problems really start!



Try and right a wrong....more than difficult!



You work and you pay your dues...otherwise be prepared to take the consequences!



mickey rourke


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If someone were to put their mind to it (hypothetically speaking of course) many many Ex-pats could be 'dobbed in' (lovely expression) this contributor personally knows of over 10 nay 20 nay 30 nay 50+ ex pats who are working illegally, doing taxi runs to Ercan Larnaca ect, some even using GC registered motors which are being used illegally here, some working as joiners, plumbers,corgi registered , electricians, some even for expat companies but not registered, some working in hotels, restaurants, bars, entertainers, estate agents, property management companies with no permits, am I the only one who is aware of this, I doubt it, but we all close our eyes to it, where will it ever end ?

Can we condone on one hand these practices, and on the other hand criticise legitimate companies or businesses who see fit to retaliate against them and 'dob them in'

Oh dear I court controvesy



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Mickey, your posting is correct but in my opinion should not cause controversy. People have stayed illegally in NC for many years without any problems. Unfortunately so many ex pats are arriving there and it obviously causes problems amongst themselves. People were left alone years ago



Casablanca, in my opinion, is also correct when he says its only when they try to become legal or do something wrong, which in turn makes them stick out in the authorities eyes, that it becomes difficult and in turn can lead to deportation. Some people are their own worst enemy.



wynyardman



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It is beyond me ( a simple lad) If you work, you need a work permit. A work permit ensures



that you pay YOUR DUES as a citizen of the TRNC



If you work without a permit, you deprive the state of taxes which they so badly need. They



therefore have to tax honest taxpayers extra . This is antisocial.



Either you are a good citizen or you are liability to the state in which you reside.



I would blow the whistle on anyone who does not comply with the rules. They are nothing



more than a boil on the backside of the society that they live in.



NO I AM NOT A WINGEING BRIT. I deplore the genre. I am an honest man that pays his



dues, and I believe others should do likewise. How can you critize the likes of Gary Robb, if



you share the same moral outlook.?



wyn

















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If some one breaks the law be it here or the UK then they must take the consequences.



If anyone is prepared to tell the whole truth on this case then both sides would be happy. But I fear that there will be those that know the truth who will not tell for fear of repurcussions against themselves.



puppylover



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Wyn....well said.

Totally agree with you.



I was talking to another board member who lives next door to the ex mayor of Girne who told them that the poorer locals are suffering due to lack of work and are living on rice and bread.

Was also talking to a local taxi driver who stated that the Brits are taking their business away from them by doing illegal taxi runs....but the smiled when he said "but the local drivers know who they are and so do the authorities and it won't be long before they are bought to account".



I think Casablanca is right when he says that the Brits doing work without the proper work permits are going to run into problems in the future.



I for one will have no sympathy for them.



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No body can condone doing anything illegal, plenty have come here to play by the rules only to find the goal posts moved, the incentives withdrawn and the rip of a brit culture endemic. In genral the Turk attitude to work if they are born and bred here is lathargic, thats why theres loads of them working for the goverment doing bot all. If the goverments views changed to promote buisness as it should it may well find that workers who presently work under the cloak of the black market would no doubt be assisting in the economic promotion of this country. As long as this goverments attitude remains, all it is doing is increasing black market activity and its not only the Brits ,mainlanders, and uncle tom cobbley and all are on the fiddle.

No doubt the brits will be kicked hardest. God help the place in the next couple of years when the credit crunch bites and the Money tap from Turkey is turned off, no doubt Talat will be begging every Brit on the Island to open a buisiness



D.N



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So name the people and the informants. Stop the rumours. There are too many rumours in NC.



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Yo! Stop da rumours!



If des people who are dissing these rumours only knew wot des rumours meant to those people on the other end of these rumours, then they would realise that the more rumours there were being rumoured about is givin' grief to those people who was bein' rumoured and spreading rumours about those people who is doin' this is wrong. So, stop spreading rumours about people who may be speading rumours or you might find you is being rumoured about for spreading rumours about des other people who is spreading rumours!



Innit



Lem



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Big dick,

Your attitude is alas shared by quite a few simple minded expats 'blame the government'

1/ The government didn't ask YOU to come here

2/ The GOVERNMENT didn't offer you any incentives

3/ There are rules laid down for acquiring a work permit

4/ The 'plenty' who have come here to play by the rules, in most cases didn't come here to work, honestly or otherwise, they came here on the back of a boom, bought properties which because of the rising prices & economic meltdown they now cannot afford easily, so have to grub around to find work as they have little else they can turn to, it all boils down to greed in the first instance, they saw what they thought was the good life and went for it without REALLY thinking about it, and now they have come unstuck, the locals see them taking their jobs so are fighting back by reporting them, and good on them long may it continue



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Don't get me wrong I don't approve of working without a permit...



I know that the permit goes with the job (it's not transferable with the worker)and it's the employer's duty to arrange it, so maybe it's the employer who should be prosecuted not the worker?



If they didn't have a work permit they should at lowest have applied for residency...



I don't know any of these people from Adam but I still think it's bonkers to have not got the residency sorted out.



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Nowt as strange as folk.



Whistler


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Gary Robb`s got all their money and they will never see it again nor their house. I agree they should have sorted their residency but maybe they looked at what he has got away with. Maybe.



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well said dixie normus in post 49.

the rules and regs here from the gov regarding starting a business or working are a joke.

remembering that the whole of cyprus joined the e.u, but the e.u fails to recognise this part in the north.

for people to work legally in the south i think is a lot easier than here.

these rules and regs are here to stop us doing anything.



i do agree that if you think you are getting away with it think again!

we are all being watched, this is a fact of life here.



there is always a way around things, its just finding that way and staying legal.

don't break the rules just bend them.



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...when the people who don't pay their dues, what will they manage on when it comes to retirement? All you have to do here is 'contribute' for 15 years, then at 55 you get the state pension and your provident fund deposits refunded with interest. The pension is about £500 per month...and free medical treatment! That's better than the UK and you get your TRNC pension 10 years earlier, and still get it if you carry on working after 55...until you finally retire! So you contribute for 15 years say on the minimum wage, thats 120ytl per month,£50stg roughly, for 180 months thats £9000. So get your pension for 18 months and you are on to a winner! Pay for longer than 15 years and you get more than the minimum payable...tell me of another scheme so rewarding! As for the provident fund...again the same amount is contributed. When you reach 55... half of your contributions are refunded in a lump sum, based on the minimum paid 15 yrs, thats over £5,000 you get in your hand including 'interest'!



Casablanca



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...and for those who pay and leave early!!!! The provident fund money is refundable when and if you leave here...say you have paid into the scheme for a couple of years...if you decide to go you go to the main office... and fill out the form, show your leaving ticket and get half of your contributions back with interest, whats fairer than that...hats off to the TRNC...for operating a wonderful scheme for those that support it...now you know!



If you dont support the TRNC... they will not support you!



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Hi Casablanca , The system sounds great so long as the goverment is going cap in hand to Turkey and are being bailed out. This system cannot be sustainable given that the place is on the verge of bankruptcy and the money tree is being trimmed. A new direction is needed a one that will encourage investment into NC and unless the Goverment wakes up to this the whole place will fall to bits.

Micky Dork, get your rose tinted specs off, although no body asked Brits to come here, without the investment made in property by forigners it would still be the land of a thousand shepherds, forign investment gave the place a change to take off, unfortunatly due to bad organisation, greed and blatent corruption, the take off was a disaster that has now let every would be investor know, not to touch the place with a barge pole.Temp residency requires you to show you can support yourself by showing you have money in the bank or an income so in effect residents should not need to work.



D.N



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Casablanca



This TRNC pension seems incredibly generous.



Would they actually pay it to temporary residents residents who ahve worked and contributed to it for 15 years, or is it assumed you would be a permanent resident or citizen to qualify by then.



I agree with D N that it doesn't seem sustainable.



Aussie



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So does anyone know what the work permit rules are? I have been told that anyone that works under 27 hours a week does not need a work permit. True or false?

AJ



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Hi Aussie...as far as I am aware, the system is for all those that legally work and reside here...you would have to clarify with the Social Insurance office as to whether you qualify as for being being temporary resident... permanent residents are OK!... not really sure, so dont quote me!!!!... as I am a 'citizen' here and held an ID card since I arrived here 27 years ago...those were the days. Best £100 I ever spent on getting permanent residence etc etc!



As for the Provident Fund rebate... everyone is entitled to their deposit being refunded when they leave here. YES the pension here is generous...but remember that over the years substantial taxes are paid in every way and all go into the kitty in some form or another, anyhow not complaining!



I paid my dues and got rewarded accordingly!



Lilli


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hi casablanca what will happen to the pensions if and when they re unite, as already pointed out the whole island is in the Eu and should get the benefits that go with that. Does it mean the end to work and buisness and work permits who will decide it just seems a minefied. If you are over 55 when you come here and pay into the system will you get a lesser pension or will they take your UK pension into account. People ask all these questions all the time at the relevant departments but the usuak shrug or the remark THIS IS CYPRUS when in fact its not its the TRNC. You state some very valid points. lilli

ps if thats the case that we are in europe could it raise human rights issues



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As the main story unfolds it shows the title and meage of the thead to be bogus.



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You have lost me Nige, but I guess that is not hard. Would you or anyone else like to explain?



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I have been tld that part time work permits are now issued.



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Hi Ladylittle

Any chance you can elaborate?

Thanks for replying.

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07/11/2008 14:27

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lilli...you have to pay into the system for 15 years at least!!!!



IF>>IF>>>IF>>>this side was to go into the EU then I dont forsee any changes...you get what you get from here and you get what you get from the uk...only that you will have to declare what you are getting in the EU as a whole!



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thank you casablanca you have made it clearer for me than most of the officals here. its a minefield but thaank you again lilli



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07/11/2008 15:31

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Casablanca



Thanks for the info, very interesting.



Based on this it would be worth becoming an employee even on a part time basis simply to make the 120 ytl contributions given the generousity of the payback.







Aussie



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AS LONG AS YOUR EMPLOYER DECLARES THE MINIMUM WAGE (1200YTL) AS MONTHLY EARNINGS AND ENTERS THE FULL MONTH WORKED, THEN YES!



REMEMBER THAT YOU ALSO HAVE TO PAY THE SAME AMOUNT TO THE PROVIDENT FUND...THEY GO HAND IN HAND!



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Let him/her that is without sin cast the first stone.



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