DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 17:29

This afternoon we had the second meeting of the founders of a new message board (quality text and pictures/graphics) in Northern Cyprus. Dave Gurr (British), Hans Doeleman (Dutch) and technical advisor Erol Ziya (TC) agreed on the basics of the new board (www.cyprusnow.info - not on line yet!).

If you are interested to be informed, mail hansdoeleman@allcrusades.com .

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 18:06

Wow! I just had the time to eat a light meal in the late afternoon Cyprus' sun - and already thirteen supportive emails! Special thanks to DoctorW for his most encouraging message!

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 18:14

Hans, thirteen ? That might be 'unlucky' for you ;)

Fawkes


Joined: 18/07/2011
Posts: 86

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 18:16

Dave Gurr AKA Alsancakjack ( aj )who would want to get involved with a forum where he is in a postion to ban people again ?

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 18:23

@ msg 3, 6xm: (...) Hans, thirteen ? That might be 'unlucky' for you ;) (...)

▶ Sorry, Mark, it changed from 13 to 31 now.



@ msg 4, "Fawkes": (...) Dave Gurr AKA Alsancakjack ( aj )who would want to get involved with a forum where he is in a postion to ban people again ? (...)

▶ I suppose you wouldn't, N.?



A special thank you to three ladies who sent me email (usually it's the men who type..!). Thank you Barbara J., Sandra L. and Jane S.!

Fawkes


Joined: 18/07/2011
Posts: 86

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 18:27

Hans any forum you have control OVER could be of interest Erol is a great guy with terific input BUT whe you take on a guy who in your words did noy keep his word IS THERE HOPE ? ( H )

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 18:28

Hans..................count me in,please !!!!!



one really bad apple on 44



Mike

DoctorW


Joined: 28/11/2010
Posts: 334

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 18:36

There is more than enough room for two (or even more) successful North Cyprus forums, hopefully many members on Cyprus44 will join and get involved in this community.



Those who are not interested can continue to 'snipe' from the sidelines.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 18:38

More email.



(...) Hans; 1] What is taking so long? (...)

▶ Dear T.B., you wouldn't like to see this Flight crash before the Holidays start, would you? Time is on our side.



(...) 2] I did not know you had the expats prejudice - Why no Germans? Why no Welsh or other Celt's? Why no Russians? Why no Turks or Greek Cypriots? (...)

▶ Dear T.B., they're all welcome. And I will even try to make a section with translations into German - if there are any Germans in Northern Cyprus or in Deutschland (Germany) who don't speak or write English.

Take care!



@ msg 7, mikelapta: (...) Hans..................count me in,please !!!!! (...)

▶ No doubt, mike.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 18:43

@ msg 8, DoctorW: (...) There is more than enough room for two (or even more) successful North Cyprus forums (...)

▶ I second your message, DoctorW. There must be a TRNC-wide choice. But on the new board there will be only ONE FIRST CHOICE: behave like a decent human being and help your fellow (British) people without insults, sniping etc. It's that easy.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 18:49

Fawkes AKA 'trouble'

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:03

16 emails again!



Like Mr William Shakespeare once and never - in a thousand years and more - forgotten wrote:

Ber: "How now, Horatio! You tremble and look pale. Is not this something more than fantasy? What think you on't?".

Horatio: "Before my God, I might not this believe, without the sensible and true avouch of mine own eyes."

C44: "There must be something rotten in Denmark"!



P.S. I apologise for the use and my interpretation of the words of the greatest man of all times.

P.P.S. "The dispersion of error is the first step in the discovery of truth".

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:03

Dutchie,



' without insults '



That's a bit ripe coming from you !

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:14

@ msg 13, vincent1: (...) Dutchie,' without insults ' That's a bit ripe coming from you ! (...)

▶ Mr. Vincent1, Sir: After several years of the "same old, same old" from you I can only politely advise you not to (try to) become a member of http://www.cyprusnow.info . It's not for you, I'm afraid.

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:18

Dutchie,



Finally you have got something right.



Your new forum and a barge pole come to mind !

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:24

@ msg 15, vincent1: (...) Your new forum and a barge pole come to mind ! (...)

▶ Mr Vincent1, Sir: My last reply to you: be careful, don't let the pole get stuck between > your < two legs - you may break your neck.

P.S. Change your info on your profile - it's one big lie. Tsk.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:26

The repetitive nature of some posts makes them malicious.

Hans, what will your policy be on members posting repeated speculation about legitimate TRNC businesses. ?

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:28

Will members have to reister their accounts in their 'real' name and have to provide some sort of proof ?

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:30

@ msg 17, Washerman: (...) Hans, what will your policy be on members posting repeated speculation about legitimate TRNC businesses. ? (...)

▶ Without too many details now, Paul: legitimate TRNC businesses will not be allowed to be attacked. Dot.

MaggieAndBernie



Joined: 26/07/2008
Posts: 2012

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:31

Don't plug it too much Cloggy!



15. Posting Links to Other Forums

Posting links to other forums is permitted with the discretion of forum admins.

Pointing out something on another forum for information purposes, is acceptable.

***Nevertheless, linking to one specific forum repetitively, for the purposes of advertising that forum, will get you banned.***



Good luck with your new venture! soon we'll all be able to spell how we like on here!!!



Maggie

(Back to the top)

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:33

Re: Msg 1,

Dat is fantastisch!

Gefeliciteerd!



I forgive your remark about ladies and typing, and hope that many ladies will grace the new forum.



Further on a poetic note:



"Good name in man and woman, dear my lord,

Is the immediate jewel of their souls:

Who steals my purse steals trash; 'tis something, nothing;

'Twas mine, 'tis his, and has been slave to thousands;

But he that filches from me my good name

Robs me of that which not enriches him

And makes me poor indeed. "



William Shakespeare, "Othello", Act 3 scene 3

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:33

@ msg 18, Washerman: (...) Will members have to reister their accounts in their 'real' name and have to provide some sort of proof ? (...)

▶ Paul, please do not ask for more details - we (the founding team) will come clear as soon as possible.

AND: I want to go out now for a drink - no more bl**dy questions, OK?

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:33

Hans.............and 'your' definition of "legitimate" ?

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:38

@ msg 20, MaggieANDBernie: (...) Maggie (Back to the top) (...)

▶ Back to a stop, indeed. Have a nice evening, Maggie, with a nice glass of red wine. Bernie won't mind, because he's usually not there, is he?

P.S. Bye! Bye! Because we won't meet on the new illustrated message board.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:43

@ m,sg 23, Washerman: (...) Hans.............and 'your' definition of "legitimate" ? (...)

▶ Paul, there is no definition of "mine". "Legitimate" in TRNC is "legitimate" - I can hardly believe you'd disagree.

P.S. And NOW I'm really off, saying "Proost!" (= "Cheers!") to all the people who replied with kind email!

CyprusNow


Joined: 16/07/2011
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:43

DC



"legitimate TRNC businesses will not be allowed to be attacked."



What and who defines legitimate?

Fawkes


Joined: 18/07/2011
Posts: 86

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:44

Gavin msg 11. We are legion we are many We never forgive, We never forget, Expect us to return the truth will out.



Fawkes is in trnc as well as on twitter http://twitter.com/#!/YourAnonNews

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:50

What and who defines what an 'attack' is ? Is pointing out actual true facts about a given service an attack ?

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 19:51

I'm about to head for a nice place with nice people, but would not leave my most dedicated fans without this:

"Don't leave Cyprus44, you are exactly on the right board!".

P.S. Why does my Dobermann suddenly wants to bite me..?

CyprusNow


Joined: 16/07/2011
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 20:09

It has found out you are a "! LOL













Post edited , rule 3 ....... Simbas

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 20:40

REVISED:- Hamlet Soliloquy: Act3 Scene3 (spoken by Hanslaughterdius)

O, my intent is it smells to Alsancak;

It hath the primal eldest Dutch curse upon't,

A forums murder. Help can I not,

Though inclination, as sharp as I am

And, like a man, a multiple ID poster banned,

I stand drunk where I last fell,

And deny any neglect of this cursed C44.

Were thicker members than my dogs blood

I would have stayed with my favorite forum..................................................................



Richard W. Shakespeare



Part of post edited , for expletive ........ Simbas

CyprusNow


Joined: 16/07/2011
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 20:42

Washerman



Here is an example of a legitimate business.

http://www.allcrusades.com



Operating from Yesiltepe, Alsancak, Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus



Obviously a properly registered company here. Has an employee, Hans D. and so pays taxes and social security. Presumably pays VAT on it's sales: Adsense income, subscriptions etc. etc. and all other properly due taxes.



This is a model of an absolutely spot on legal properly registered business here in the TRNC and is a shining example to all expats thinking of setting up here. Well done Hans. Hats off to Hans.



CyprusNow

DoctorW


Joined: 28/11/2010
Posts: 334

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 20:52

Call me a heathen, but I never could get Shakespeare!

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 21:01

Re: Msg 31,



“You have no enemies, you say?

Alas, my friend, the boast is poor;

He who has mingled in the fray

Of duty, that the brave endure,

Must have made foes! If you have none,

Small is the work that you have done.

You’ve hit no traitor on the hip,

You’ve dashed no cup from perjured lip,

You’ve never turned the wrong to right,

You’ve been a coward in the fight.”



Charles MacKay

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 21:27

DC for a historian you have a very short memory.



"There must be a TRNC-wide choice. But on the new board there will be only ONE FIRST CHOICE: behave like a decent human being and help your fellow (British) people without insults, sniping etc. It's that easy."



I am totally behind your new venture but I think you will also need to rebuild a few bridges with those you have insulted and wronged over the last 5 years or so otherwise your project may not get the support it deserves.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 22:17

Fawkes, forgive me for thinking you are Zoots.....

Fawkes


Joined: 18/07/2011
Posts: 86

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 22:21

Gavin yes I WILL forgive yo as you are way off the mark remember the ovan proof plastic sheets ? shh

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 22:48

When I suggested it was AJ with D/C

people laughed at me

those 2 egos would always end up together

one way or another

either clashing or coloberating

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 22:56

Re: Msg 38,

"either clashing or coloberating "



What, berating in a colourful way?

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 23:11

@ msg 38, philbayley: (...) those 2 egos would always end up together (...)

▶ Dear "phil": two yellow cards are waiting for you. And is three strikes and you're out. Please join.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 23:15

I am sure AJ has got all the IP addresses

from 44 members from his ill-fated days



I should get an automatic membership for guessing

who was founding this



I guess he will be a moderator ?

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/07/2011 23:28

@ msg 32, CyprusNow: (...) Here is an example of a legitimate business.

http://www.allcrusades.com

▶ Thank you!

Operating from Yesiltepe, Alsancak, Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus

▶ Sorry, completely based in Holland - but, nice try!

Obviously a properly registered company here. Has an employee, Hans D. and so pays taxes and social security. Presumably pays VAT on it's sales: Adsense income, subscriptions etc. etc. and all other properly due taxes.

▶ "Employee"?! Errrm...? What's your problem with what I do or do not in Holland..?

This is a model of an absolutely spot on legal properly registered business here in the TRNC and is a shining example to all expats thinking of setting up here. Well done Hans. Hats off to Hans.

▶ You are really very funny and (But: I won't make an anonymous C44 member any wiser. In my book you don't exist).

BACK ON TOPIC, OK?





Post edited , rule 3 ...... Simbas

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 00:36

@ msg 31, Brinsley: (...) rubbish (...)

▶ Oh, Richard, I'm really sorry that once again NOBODY cared to write ONE word in reply to your 'post'!

O, Jeez!







Post edited , rule 3 ..... Simbas

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 01:12

Im a little suprised that AJ is a partner in setting this new forum up, although I did hint this on a previous thread ?



I did admire the way he defended this board and Izzet in particular .,... loyalty is very rare these days.

If AJ threw in the towel on hear because of some of the members is the new forum going to be any better/different. ?



It would be very interesting what Izzet has to say on this matter as AJ seemed to be his staunch ally !

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 01:16

I'd be surprised if Izzet has any interest in this forum. I think he has just left it up to his appointed moderators to police what goes on here...

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 01:23

@ msg 45, Blackbird (...) I'd be surprised if Izzet has any interest in this forum. I think he has just left it up to his appointed moderators to police what goes on here... (...)

▶ Many respondents in this thread seem to agree with you. Indeed, too bad.

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 01:41

The correct way to reply in English is:

Re Message 46:

It is not correct to start with @, and all of these (...) is definitely not right and proper.

But I do understand the sentiment despite the bad grammar...

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 02:14

@ msg 47, Blackbird: Do you prefer to discuss this thread in other languages than > your

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 02:26

@ msg 48: For some unknown reason my post wasn't finished the way I wished.

But, whatever.

Mr. Blackbird, Sir!

From your record on Cyprus44 I don't think you should even try to apply (msg 1).

Bye, Sir!

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 02:30

Will the forum have personal ads?

or discuss boxing etc?

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 02:54

I appreciate all the efforts of all the known scatter brains, idiots, trouble makers etc on C44 - to keep this thread on top of the list. Enjoy yourself on C44. You deserve it!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 03:14

@ msg 50, philbailey: (....) Will the forum have personal ads? or discuss boxing etc? (...)

▶ Dear , don't worry. You won't be a writing member there at all. Sleep tight.











Post edited , rule 3 ....... Simbas

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 05:36

dutch



if you, AJ and MikeLapta have formed a "happy clappy, rose tinted" board thats all warm and fluffy - why don't you and start using it and stop posting here, if its so darn bad ?





Post edited , rule 3 ....... simbas

MaggieAndBernie



Joined: 26/07/2008
Posts: 2012

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 08:40

Msg 53 Well said NN! ...Though I guess the clogg won't be asking you to do a guest spot 'Joke of the week'





Msg 24 Cloggy....Bernie & I often enjoy a glass of red wine together....and he's here a lot more than you think ...don't listen to ALL the drivel you hear from your welsh mate!



Maggie AND Bernie xxx

stockiefan


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 574

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 08:53

NN, that has cried wolf before, "i,m leaving this board never to return" then come crawling back from under his stone! Let's hope this time he means it!!!!







Post edited , rule 3 ....... Simbas

DoctorW


Joined: 28/11/2010
Posts: 334

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 09:00

Does it occur to anyone that opening a new board does not exclude the subject posting on this or any other board.



Unless DC is banned I am sure that he will continue to post and as long as he has anything to say he will be welcomed, though maybe not by all.



I dont see it anywhere in the rules that you will be banned for starting a new board, so I guess that DC remains free to come and go as he pleases.

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 09:34

Dutchie,



Before we all queue up to join your new forum.



Can you confirm that you will not allow rudeness to other members which you personally demonstrate daily on C44 to be permitted ?

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 09:40

Ok Ok . settle down , nobody is forcing you to respond to this topic , if you have no interest in Han's new board , don't post , one more personal or confrontational remark , i will close it down

Simbas

stockiefan


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 574

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 09:49

Simbas,

I,m sure he is big enough to fight his own battles!! Where were you when he constantly comes on this board with his own negative remarks?????

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 09:57

I think if hans wants to start a new board then so be it.... why not



....however whilst I admire Simbas and Hans at times - I do question them sometimes as they do not stick to their principles



ie wanting banned posters back which has happened this week, after them, the banned posters saying and doing such nasty things to them personally .......



now we have to put up with them back on here ! (banned posters reinstated) when clearly they were posting under other names anyway



Have a good non quarreling day

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 10:02

stockiefan , fight his own battles , of that i have no doubt , am not able to be here 24/7 , sorry

Simbas

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 10:10

Maybe he wanted the banned posters back... for ulterior motives?

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 10:16

Alas Sienna , unfortunately with this forum , " your damned if you do and damned if you don't " . On this particular thread , i was excersising the be polite rule to all parties

Take care Simbas

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 10:23

Groucho.



Exactly what I was thinking.

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 10:46

Maggie and Bernie,I assume I am Han's Welsh mate !!!

I think the only time your name has been mentioned is that I said,you were a nice lady.

I have never mentioned Bernie or any other personal matters

NN.....I have not had any conversation with DC,nor have I met AJ.



But I have had so many disgusting pointless lies thrown at me especially by Flamefab,and ALL off topic !!!
I would just like a nice forum,to post pertinent questions,and help people who ask sensible questions about the TRNC.



Is that too much to ask ?

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 11:12

msg 65 .........NN.....I have not had any conversation with DC,nor have I met AJ.



Hi Mike I thought you were VP of DC's chess club.



Best of luck on the new board. Hope the three of you make success of it.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 11:36

Message 65 why not try http://www.glencoecyprus.com it is full of good accurate advice and good debates and no mud slinging, but then thats the attraction of this board to many posters - they get away with it and know they can post with impunity

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 11:40

Message 62 Groucho:



"Maybe he wanted the banned posters back... for ulterior motives?"



What ulterior motive?

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 11:45

mess 65 - sorry mike - i thought you were in DC's gang as you are in his chess club.

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 11:52

NN and Denise...firstly Nick,your apologies accepted.



DC runs the Chess Club



I run the Tavla Club



They are separate from one another



Tamam?

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 12:42

Ulterior motive? msg 62? not sure what you are getting at... Banned posters reinstated because they all had good contributions to this board, even if some of them I didn't necessarily agree with...



Sounds like a murder mystery to me ...

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 14:43

msg 70. OK mike

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
22/07/2011 15:29

Han's, Good luck with your project. Its hard rules and ruthless moderation in accord with the rules that make any new board survive. I would be happy to join, give out my real name and details along with phone number and IP address if wanted - it is all available out there anyway so why hide it all away as all those who have met the requirement for posts on this board and then made their email address known should be well aware of,



I know that the barbs and pin pricks will not find their way through your armour so just go for it - say what you mean and mean what you say!!!

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 00:29

msg 10 from DC;.... But on the new board there will be only ONE FIRST CHOICE: behave like a decent human being and help your fellow (British) people without insults, sniping etc. It's that easy.▶



msg 16 from DC; Mr Vincent1, Sir: My last reply to you: be careful, don't let the pole get stuck between > your < two legs - you may break your neck. P.S. Change your info on your profile - it's one big lie. Tsk.



msg 49 from DC...Mr. Blackbird, Sir! From your record on Cyprus44 I don't think you should even try to apply (msg 1). Bye, Sir!



msg 51 from DC; I appreciate all the efforts of all the known scatter brains, idiots, trouble makers etc on C44 - to keep this thread on top of the list. Enjoy yourself on C44. You deserve it!



msg 52 from DC; @ msg 50, philbailey: (....) Will the forum have personal ads? or discuss boxing etc? (...)

▶ Dear nobody, don't worry. You won't be a writing member there at all. Sleep tight.



TBC

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 00:41

continued from 74.

I am somewhat bemused by DC's postings. I wished the three of them well, and still do. One thing I would like to add, however, is, DC, why don't you make your board "by invitation only"?

This way you can verify that the email addresses are genuine. Nobody will post anything that may upset the ambience you are obviously seeking and you can exercise the control over all members.

Might be a bit boring but the best of luck anyway.



ps my application was returned by "mailer daemon" as undeliverable, was it something I said?

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 14:46

I was hoping for a moderators job

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 15:55

@ Denizen: (...) ps my application was returned by "mailer daemon" as undeliverable, was it something I said? (...)



▶ I do not think I ever received an email from you, so I cannot have blocked your email address for any reason.

Just a thought: could you have made a typo in my email address?



This is the right email address to ask for information* and be informed about the progress of "Cyprus Now": ( http://www.cyprusnow.info - today again in the testing phase and not on line yet).

* All names and email addresses will remain confidential and will not be used for any other purpose than sending information. People can opt out of the information mailing list at any time.



Denizen: (...) "Invitation only". This way you can verify that the email addresses are genuine. (...)



▶ Thank you for your suggestion. We've given this problem already considerable thoughts and decided on a different solution.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 15:59

Is that the right link ?

I am not looking to study

or stay at aprotide hills?

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 16:01

msg 77;...... Thank you for your suggestion. We've given this problem already considerable thoughts and decided on a different solution.



Cheers Hans, so have I, (that's to my problem, not yours)



Again, good luck.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 17:49

Good Luck in your new venture DC, this board has hit rock bottom of late and people are in desperate need of some common sense instead of the infantile ramblings of many posters on here.

DoctorW


Joined: 28/11/2010
Posts: 334

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 18:10

Glad you have decided on not going down the invitation only route. The board should be open to anyone who has interest in the TRNC and is willing to obey the rules of the forum.



It should be easy to get on (with thorough checks of course), but even easier to be removed if you do not comply with rules.



We shouldnt be left in a position where a member with multiple personalities ...eerrr, sorry multiple id's (perhaps I was right in the first place), can spread lies about another member and not get banned straight away.



I think many will use the new board.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 18:23

DoctorW there is not 'technical' means of establishing that a given forum user account or ID is a multiple account of an existing users, or a new account of a previously banned one, that is foolproof and definative. Things like IP address posted on can provide evidence that suggests it is the case one way or another but it is not proof. At the end of the day it is down to a judgment call by a human or humans, and as such they will at times be wrong, not stopping ID's that are duplicates and other times sanctioning ID's that are not.



The best you can do is look at ways to limit and make harder the use of multiple ID's as much as possible, but in general there is a relationship between such measures and how many 'hurdles' a user must get over to register an ID in the first place. Finding the right balance is not an easy thing to do.

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 18:26

Hattikins,a precise and accurate posting.Thank you,and I concur.



My concern,will those idiots care?My guess is they are supping their Efes now,bragging how clever they have been.



Are they aware they have spoilt a very good forum?



Hans, youi have my total support in what you are doing.





Something the majority of 44 will be pleased to join and contribute.

DoctorW


Joined: 28/11/2010
Posts: 334

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 18:40

Message 82



I understand this, you cannot always weed out the problems at the joining stage, but that is where the backup of an effective moderation system comes in. This will be where the vast majority of the culprits will be weeded out.





And if someone is missed then I suppose this may in itself not be disasterous. If a previously banned person rejoins and then becomes a useful member of the board so much the better.





I agree that a leopard never changes its spots, but thankfully humans have a sense of reasoning, and may just mend their ways along the line.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 18:52

So when will this new board be up and running ?

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 18:58

@ msg 85, Turtle: (...) So when will this new board be up and running ? (...)



▶ Turtle, from my msg 1: "If you are interested to be informed, mail hansdoeleman@allcrusades.com ."

And from my msg 77: "* All names and email addresses will remain confidential and will not be used for any other purpose than sending information. People can opt out of the information mailing list at any time."



P.S. The first Info mail was sent this afternoon.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 19:48

DoctorW





>>but thankfully humans have a sense of reasoning<<



Sadly NOT..you have demonstrated that you can't u/stand the difference between 'mudslinging' and a poster correcting technical / commercial nonsense :(

DoctorW


Joined: 28/11/2010
Posts: 334

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 20:08

mmmmmm,



On the contrary, my sense of reasoning tells me when technical reasoning becomes mudslinging and also when posts are hijacked by various members on this board for their own purposes. This, often to the detriment of the original question.



I dont think a messageboard is the appropriate place for a 'slanging match' between two members. I am sure that if certain members wish it to become so, then they should be banned.



Most members post their email addresses on their members information. Perhaps the members who just want to argue may think of using them, instead of the board and give the rest of us a break.



Hopefully the new board will be moderated more strictly than Cyprus44 and we will have a board that members will not have to wade through the continual drivel that we are often confronted with on Cyprus44.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 00:15

@ msg 88, DoctorW: (...) Hopefully the new board will be moderated more strictly than Cyprus44 and we will have a board that members will not have to wade through the continual drivel that we are often confronted with on Cyprus44. (...)



▶ Count on it. It will be a board where members who have something interesting to say - related to (Northern) Cyprus - will NOT - for whatever reason - be afraid to do it. Quality, not quantity. Respect and self-control. And the "Cyprus Now" Team is very serious about what we have internally discussed.

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 01:32

Re message 49, to even think I would think of applying.

Don't you understand that this forum is conducted in a proper manner....In English...







Part of post edited , rule 3 .... simbas

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 01:37

@ msg 90: (...) Re message 49, you pompous arrogant twit (...)

▶ You're such a gentleman!

▶ The board owner, Izzet Zorlu, is very Cypriot Turkish and only ALLOWS > you < to write some sort of English here.

▶ Arrogant man, that's what you are.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 01:42

BACK ON TOPIC NOW.



Dave Gurr (British), Hans Doeleman (Dutch) and technical advisor Erol Ziya (TC) agreed on the basics of the new board (www.cyprusnow.info - not on line yet!).



If you are interested to be informed, mail hansdoeleman@allcrusades.com .

oliveoil


Joined: 16/03/2008
Posts: 58

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 01:43

Blackbird unfortunately I cannot agree with your sentiments, what doctorw and others say about this board is quite true, the board owner has obviously lost interest in it, his appointed moderators are not up to the job and having been a member of this board for some considerable time I have seen it all, I have refused till recently to continue posting because of the amount of dross and ignorant people posting.

I have little doubt I will not be posting much more in the future either, theres more and much better forums available and we can wait and see what messers Gurr and Doeleman throw up, it cant be any worse than the one paul Roger made

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 01:44

oliveoil



Hear, hear.

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 01:48

Wow Hans I have never, ever, been described as arrogant before!

I have many qualifications in the English language - and have never seen a place in our wonderful dialect where @msg is a correct abbreviation - or (...) means anything other than the writer is an





Post edited , rule 3 ........ simbas

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 01:54

Re: Msg 90,

"Don't you understand that this forum is conducted in a proper manner....In English... "



Shall we quote here the pearls of epistolar wisdom belonging to you from Proger's forum?

And see about 'proper manner' or indeed proper 'English' !

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:05

Oh, come on now Clarissa, aren't you skating on rather thin ice here, quoting Proger's forum? I, myself, didn't contribute (for obvious reasons, I feel) but, bearing in mind what went on there, I was somewhat surprised (to say the least) to see Hans posting good wishes to Zerochlor on here only last week. I think it was something along the lines of "I have done my best to get you back onto 44...." etc. Or am I missing some sort of veiled ulterior motive?



With regard to Blackbird's contribution to that forum, he was not alone (by a long way) and I would say that his contributions were mild, in the extreme.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:07

@ msg 96, Clarissa2: (...) Shall we quote here the pearls of epistolar wisdom belonging to you from Proger's forum? And see about 'proper manner' or indeed proper 'English' ! (...)



▶ Oh, no! Don't do it! The man is not bad enough to get the final blow.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:22

@ msg 97, Jeannie: (...) Hans posting good wishes to Zerochlor on here only last week. (...)



▶ Hmmm, Jeannie: May I ask for the thread and the post number? I've told the Zeroman we don't live in the same intellectual world and I think he accepted my remark. We haven't been crossing swords since. Good. May it remain this way for ever.

My plea to have the "lifers" back (including of course the Zeroman) was only meant to weed out the double and triple (etc) ID's.

So we wouldnt have to read how the same man/woman were talking to themselves. Nothing more, nothing less.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:30

OK Hans - it is a little late; I will e-mail you again tomorrow, in further detail.



Jean

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:30

Re: Msg 95,

"I have many qualifications in the English language..."



From Oxford, Cambridge or Sorbonne?

mrjim



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 78

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:49

I think jeannie is referring to this message 3

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/68962.asp must admit I thought it strange at the time

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:53

Clarissa - message 101. (I know you are not responding to my messages, but what the hell).



"Corn in Egypt" (as my old Mum used to say). You have actually mentioned 2 (YES,TWO) British Institutions which are (last time I looked) considered two of the best seats of learning in the world.



Bugger me



There's hope for us Brits yet.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:57

Mr Jim - message 102.



Thank you very much; yes, that is exactly the message I was referring to.



Glad it wasn't just me who thought it was strange.



Thanks again; you've save me a lot of searching.



Jean

mrjim



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 78

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:59

my pleasure jeannie

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 03:01

re msg 88 'DoctorW'



>>On the contrary, my sense of reasoning tells me when technical reasoning becomes mudslinging<<



As I've stated- the fact you would (again ) post such nonsense demonstrates you also lack 'technical reasoning' - let alone the ability to see the difference between 'naughty claims' and FACT....



You might even note that neither how I look nor my email is hidden.... lousy example...





Here's hoping your BS sensor and observance levels will be more accurate in future - 'coz if you want to suggest how moderators should be performing - you're going to have to be a lot more 'careful' in your 'judgements'...:(

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 03:06

Ah well - I should've known you'd be an Irishman.



My grandmother was born in Cork.



No - let's not get into us English and our Irish ancestry - we could be here all night - although I am very proud of it



Thanks again



J

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 03:07

"or (...) means anything other than the writer is an ignorant buffoon..."



Msg 95 - I have always used ellipsis - and believed them to be when intentionally omitting some material which is obvious to the reader, but too lengthy for the writer to insert - yet don't consider myself or others that use this form of communication, as either "ignorant" or a buffoon" ...

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 03:19

Message 108 - Ms Garnet.



I would first and foremost like to apologise for (some time ago) accusing you of being "wordy". I have to say that the more I read of your posts, the more I appreciate that fact that you are one of the most literate, intelligent posters on here. I don't always (but mostly do) agree with your postings, particularly those about certain members of this forum (who shall remain nameless). I have been called everything on here (by certain people) for daring to correct their grammar/spelling; I have given up and post very little now, with the exception of humourous/helpful (I hope) posts.



Just out of curiosity - I would really like to know what your profession is. Journalist possibly?



Jean

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 06:32

if dutch has got his new board - why not close this thread and let him get on with it.



and give us some well earnt peace from all this twaddle.

DoctorW


Joined: 28/11/2010
Posts: 334

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 08:45

MESSAGE 106



6m's



Lousy example, I think not! I was making those very points.



1) - I dont pretend or claim to have any technical knowledge!



2) - Your email address and that of the other protaganists are available on your membership profile and theirs.



This was tthe point I was making!



If you want a slanging match you can email each other and not continually spoil the threads of others.



But a clever retort nevertheless 6m's, again taking a thread off topic.



With this in mind I will no longer post replies on this thread to your inane comments, for fear of taking it further off topic.



Should however you wish to continue this on this line you may post another thread to that effect. I would suggest you call it 'Why do so members wish to hijack others threads'



I would be quite happy to continue to cross keyboards with you there.



Now back to topic please!



Second meeting of the founders of http://www.cyprusnow.info

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 11:17

Count me in Dutch, I can't wait to fill the lonely evenings with riveting conversation and quirky banter with you, Mike and AJ.Hahahahahahahahahaha...

hwilde


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 11:29

Roomy



It will be the Marie Celeste of bulletin "boreds."







Post edited , rule 3 ....... simbas

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 11:42

Post removed , rule 3 ....... Simbas

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 11:51

re msg 111 - DoctorQ



>>1) - I dont pretend or claim to have any technical knowledge! <<



..so you CAN'T discern which poster is being factually correct ? THANKS.. for demonstrating MY point ! [emoticon for eyes rolling goes here ;) ] .. I have banned for demonstrably foretelling the the truth .. Not the smartest move on the part of the mod concerned, as many folks lost out financially .. 'interesting' that's you'd prefer that to happen - again ....



>> 2) - Your email address and that of the other protaganists are available on your membership profile and theirs. >> I see.. you suggest that I email a poster if they are being 'economical' with the truth publicly.. !?



>>With this in mind I will no longer post replies on this thread to your inane comments<<



Inane infers "lacking sense" - er THAT is exactly why I'm responding - as you are discussing the threads where you admit you are technically inept ....



Ergo - it was YOU who took this thread off topic....

DoctorW


Joined: 28/11/2010
Posts: 334

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 12:15

Messsage 115



I dont know if you are dumb or just pretending to be.



You are completely off topic. Your post should be removed, before this thread which is about something completely different is.



My offer in message 11 still stands. I suggest that you follow up that advice and start another thread and we will continue the discussion there.



For once you can pick the title of the thread, so hopefully you will be able to keep on topic.



Now back tpo the original topic (hopefully)!!

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 12:43

Post removed , Rule 3....... Simbas

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 23:09

Jeannie - Msg 109 - I don't recall that comment, so couldn't have viewed it as a slight :0)



I have been many things in my time, PA to International Lawyer in the middle east, qualified make-up artist, electrologist and masseuse, to owned/ran a B&B, a few other things peppered in-between, to my last, most satisfying career as a trained and accredited Trauma Counsellor. Satisfying in as much as being presented with deeply distressed clients (their children murdered, a female or male rape victim, a parent killed in horrendous circumstances...) to be able to help them - one can't say get over their experience (not possible) but find ways to live alongside what, to them, or their loved ones, was an eternally life-changing event. I am actually writing a book - my curriculum vitae (journey of life) but have no journalistic experience. Perhaps my rather archaic, single sex school education has something to answer for!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 23:52

re 116



DoctorW



>>I dont know if you are dumb or just pretending to be. <<



Neither.. *I* know how to start an new thread...

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 23:56

Re: Msg 119,



a new thread... ( Retaliation for Alfonso)

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 00:25

Clarissa



I will call him that until I hear him admit he was petulant at McLaren and grassed 'em up to the FIA re 'Spygate'



Fantastic driver.. but comes across as a 'moody sod' ....



However, he gets on with Mark Webber - so I may him him all wrong ! ..





Let's make a campaign to keep Mark Webber at Red Bull - I think they want him out :( .. For daring to be quicker than the Gnome....

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 00:38

Re: Msg 121,

"... but comes across as a 'moody sod...'

Do you mean Playboy?



"Let's make a campaign to keep Mark Webber at Red Bull..."

Too late now, he is as good as gone.



P.S. I'm sure we are facing ire of the author of this thread : gone completely off topic .

Mea culpa - I'm so easily led.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 00:51

You 2 should behave yourselves and stay on topic.





Hans will be along soon for hijacking this topic and quite right too,......is anybody actualy interested in F1 ?

EamonnMc


Joined: 18/06/2010
Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 00:53

There will be trouble ahead and anarchy will rule ! Should be fun !!

flamefabs


Joined: 09/07/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 08:24

mess 114 - mikelapta , may i remind you that rude remarks are not allowed, or you may get banned from here.





barry d







Part of post edited , innapropriate ....... Simbas

babydoll


Joined: 27/07/2011
Posts: 140

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 13:34

msg 99 refer to msg 102

your reply should be interesting dutchcrusader

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 14:34

Very belated reply to message 118.



MsGarnet - my apologies for this belated reply and many thanks.



You've certainly led a very interesting life. I take your point about an archaic, single-sex school education - I, too am a product of same



Regards.



Jean

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 16:11

"single-sex school"



What? You only had sex once at school?...

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 17:32

got any daughters, Groucho?

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 15:31

Having been on the end of unprovoked, written assaults from DC, as have many others, I wonder how he meets the criteria to join this new quality board ?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 15:55

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was serving no purpose.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 15:55

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was serving no purpose.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/08/2011 15:55

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was serving no purpose.