Amy Whinehouse Found Dead

joandjelly


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Message Posted:
23/07/2011 19:41

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018020/Amy-Winehouse-confirmed-dead.html



Very sad, a very troubled young lady.

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 19:47

Very sad

great music great voice

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
23/07/2011 19:53

I wonder why gifted people are so often so unhappy.. Whatever has occurred - it is a tragedy for her nearest and dearest :(

loulou



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Message Posted:
23/07/2011 19:56

what a shame what a talant ??

loulou



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Posts: 785

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 19:57

what a shame what a tallant ??

wanderer


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Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 20:21

Very sad only 27 such a talent

Ballyboffin


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Posts: 903

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 20:24

That is dreadful, what a waste of a talented life. God help her, who knows what demons that poor girl fought.



What her family are suffering now we couldn't even comprehend.......

Tootie


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Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 20:28

I feel for her parents, they tried so hard to get/keep her clean.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
23/07/2011 20:30

Too much too young



such a shame



where were her management ?

shrimp


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Message Posted:
23/07/2011 20:30

deeply shocking news........such a waste and such talent, gone to soon x

keith


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Posts: 272

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 20:31

What a waste should never happen in this day and age

keith

Visitor


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Posts: 492

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 20:31

How sad.



She was totally hounded by the press.

bazzagirl


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Message Posted:
23/07/2011 20:40

my son of 19 said good riddance he says people like her are disgusting and no roll model for todays youth, he hates drugs and what it does to people, but with her talent and money he says there is no excuse for it, and i tend to agree.

Tootie


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Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 20:53

Forget talent, money, press, management, if you did or did not like her, or her music etc... think of her mother and farther... who just wanted their daughter back, she was 27. It could have been anyone's sibling without any of the above.

Jeannie


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Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 20:57

Phil - message 14. I agree:



"There but for the grace of God............................................"

Tinkie


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 21:00

Who knows what that poor girl went through, everyone has different ways of dealing and coping with their demons, who are we to judge? This is a tragic waste of a young talented womans life, none of us can possibly appreciate how difficult it is to live your life under the media telescope, perhpas she wasnt a great role model, but for heavens sake message 13 have some compassion.

Mambosun


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Posts: 112

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 21:03

Yes i know i lost my hardworking clean living son MARC last year to an idiotic truck driver, he was mown down cycling to work that he had cycled for 12 years, he was 28 i will never get over it, my heart is broken, but life goes on and i deal with a charity called brake to comfort other parents who have lost cyclists, bike riders, my heart goes out to family and friends, but at least she had control over her death and could have prevented it, my son was not given that perogative.

numpty


Joined: 20/05/2009
Posts: 554

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 21:17

Drugs, Drink, whatever, Amy was someones daughter,and she will be missed by them forever. Its one of the hardest things in the world for a parent to loose a child no matter what age or the reason. My heart goes out to the family.

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 21:34

bazzagirl - Msg 13. Notwithstanding hardly a girl at 54 - one wonders how such a perfect individual like yourself and your progeny (proof if ever needed, that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree) manage to exist in such an inperfect world - must irritate both of you no end.



Have you been hounded by press intrusion; unable to go out, enter a shop, swim in the local pool, have lunch with a pal, go out without make-up in a comfortable tracksuit - without having your photograph taken and people interrupting you never endingly? No-thought so. Whilst you and your son are on the way to the Charm school to have your fees reimbursed, may I suggest you put yourself in her parents position (in that regard you can surely empathise)? and if you cannot understand at your age that people 'eat' their emotions, or take alcohol/drugs to numb themselves to emotional pain or abuse their bodies as a 'coping' mechanism, then I would suggest you keep your polemics to yourself at the death of Amy

bigOz


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Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 21:52

It is very sad news and, indeed, she had a very unique voice but it was as if I always expected she would die young. For some weird reason she reminded me as the modern version of Billie Holiday - also a jazz singer, addicted to drugs and alcohol.

Some film producer will do her life story now and laugh all the way to the bank!

bazzagirl


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Posts: 525

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 21:55

Yes big Oz and also many others X

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 21:58

I have to agree Oz



A tragic end to a wonderful talent but is anyone surprised it ended like this. ?

EssexPhil


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Posts: 38

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:02

Her raw talent reminded me of Janis Joplin , a similar end for both . Her troubled mind is at peace now .

birdman



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Posts: 690

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:02

Yes Amy's death is tragic.

We must all feel for those she left behind.

She was given so much support for her Illnesses and so many chances to rehabilitate but was found lacking.

As a role model she failed miserably and now hopefully her death may shock some fans into NOT trying to emulate her life.

Maybe some good will come from it ?



Before any poster says I am being callous, I had a younger brother who died as an alcoholic, after so many chances to rehabilitate himself. I took him in several times and know the agonies he went through when going "Cold "Turkey". NO good came from His death.



Gerry

Glasbury


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Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:04

A very talented girl - what a shame - condolences to her family.

sienna


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Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:07

she had a choice she had chances ... those in Oslo didn't



wasted life, even her manager has just said he knew it would end this way ... very sad all of it not a good day

martinD41


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Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:10

Tragic in the extreme....RIP dear Amy

matula


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Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:13

I find it hard to comprehend that this topic has received more views and replies than the one about the tragedy in Norway! So much for values?

daisy dukes


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Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:15

All i can say is this....I have been raising Hell ever since i hit my teens...and there but for the grace of God...i am still here to tell my tale...some people are simply sent here to tell a story...perhaps her downfall will save someone elses son or daughter....Role models are not always what they are cracked up to be....



Mrs Garnet...i do believe you hit the nail on the head.....





DD

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:18

Unfortunately when you mess with drugs this can be the result.

Panchocat


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Posts: 1333

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:38

I think Bazzargirl wrote about losing her son last year so she must know how parents feel about the death of a child, whatever the circumstances, so perhaps not one of her wiser posts.

RIP Amy whatever your troubles they are over now and we have the albums to remember what a talent you had.

bigOz


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Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:46

Apparently 27 is a cursed age for many of the famous who died young! Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain and Janis Joplin were all 27 when they died. A famous and very popular rock singer Barış Akarsu also died at 27 during 2007...

daisy dukes


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Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:52

Can we just take a little time out here....there have been many people killed in Oslo...through no fault of their own...Amy made a decision to flaunt the rules and to live life on the edge...those poor folk in Oslo did no such thing (as far as we know) aren't our priorities a tad screwed up here....??



DD

bazzagirl


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Posts: 525

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 22:56

proberley not one of my wiser posts but my son had NO control over his death, all the money fame and help Amy Wwinehouse had in this world, she choose her lifestyle, and paid the price, even her parents knew that, there is NO comparison between my sons death and hers, but i still have the deepest sympathy for her family and friends, because a child lost is a child lost, and NO body who has never lost a child will EVER understand that loss and the pain it brings ffor the rest of your living days, think yourselves lucky very lucky X.

SaraD


Joined: 12/07/2011
Posts: 31

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 23:11

Bazzargirl is entitled to her opinion the same as everyone else is, regardless if people agree or not. Nothing wrong in what she posted. a terrible loss, to her family,music industry and her fans, but self inflicted. She knew what her career choice entailed when she started out, so do not see how anyone can see that as part of the reason. Very talented lady who wasted her life, with plenty of chances to right it and with plenty of love and support from family. Some people you just cant help. If this was Joe Bloggs from down the road, who assaulted innocent people or stole to get their next 'fix ' I doubt very much they would be getting the same response. Heart goes out to Amy's family for their loss, but their it ends.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the poor victims of that terrible shooting, the young lives that will never get a chance to shine, never get a chance to be someone.... that is a tragedy.

PhilUK


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Posts: 236

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 23:22

message 28- matula, excellent point.

One person on a suicide mission verses so many innocents.

JohhnyLee


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Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:32

R.I.P. Amy what a waste of life. So talented, I remember seeing her on Jules Hollands. NYE show before she was famous.





Just unbeleivable Very talented young girl.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:39

Good that this time nobody here dared to talk about god - neither in relation to Amy W. nor the Norwegian youngsters.

Jeannie


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Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 02:43

Hans - do you write about GOD with a lower case "g" on purpose - like Paul (a total atheist) does?



I think God has left the building, in any case.



J

MsGarnet


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Posts: 989

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 03:27

I'm with msg 38 - If I ruled the world, the first thing I would do is erase it of ALL religion, considering there are more deaths in the name of Faith than anything else...



One reads she had a lifestyle choice; no-one chooses to have an addictive personality, or the way one handles emotional pain - one also has to question the "support" her Management gave her - to let her go on stage at times when stoned or drunk out of her mind - speaks completely of their avarice and of no concern for her wellbeing - her last concert where she was booed off stage a case in point - why did they let her go on? If I was her parents, they and her ex-husband Blake Fielder-Civil, who received wisdom first got Amy hooked onto cocaine and heroin, would be my first port of call. Amy always reminded me of the late Frida Kahlo - both exotic looking women, whose work was so autobiographical - such a sad situation (I too miss Janis Joplin - another tragedy)...

MsGarnet


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Posts: 989

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 03:43

bazzagirl - I am sincerely saddened to read you lost a son last year - my condolences...

laptarunner



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Posts: 217

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 08:39

As it already been said, any loss of life is a terrible thing. But while the courts pussy foot around with the likes of Pete Doherty, who I believe had appeared in court up to 20 times on charges connected with the use of Class A drugs, before being jailed, it sends the wrong message.



My thoughts are with the people of Norway today.

bazzagirl


Joined: 09/05/2010
Posts: 525

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 10:10

Thankyou so much Ms Garnet your post meant the world to me. As in the world of qQeen," show must go on inside my heart is breaking my make-up may be flaking but my smile still stays on"

Roomy


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Message Posted:
24/07/2011 10:35

Addiction is every bit as serious a mental illness as any other.

Panchocat


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Posts: 1333

Message Posted:
24/07/2011 21:39

So true Roomy and very easy for some to pooh pooh it and not understand the nature of addiction as an illness.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 11:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf0rBv3M20M



So much trouble,in so few years,



Paul.

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
25/07/2011 11:18

Brilliant - just brilliant - thank you so much for posting that link.......

icklepix


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Message Posted:
25/07/2011 11:27

Such a waste, a very talented troubled young lady. Lets hope some of her material she recorded prior to her death is released.

EamonnMc


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Message Posted:
25/07/2011 12:43

MsGarnet,



Those who hated God and religion, e.g. Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and many others, were lovely fellows- never a cause of any trouble in the world and definitely ... no blood on their hands !!!

nurseawful



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Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 13:13

Just read on the BBC that fans have been gathering outside her house to pay tribute leaving flowers, cards, 'packs of cigarettes and bottles of vodka'! Flowers and cards I can understand but fags and vodka, it beggars belief!



Chris

negativenick


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Message Posted:
25/07/2011 13:17

all that money - what a waste.



hope she remembers he "uncle" nick in her will...............

dearie


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Posts: 142

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 13:41

Ms Garnet



spot on you said so much that is true. Those that haven't walked in someone elses' shoes should not judge that poor young woman was in a lot of mental pain and so many of us numb ourselves with booze, fags, food etc. we all need crutches from time to time?

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 15:06

I was not a fan of Amy however it is such a sad loss for her fans, friends and family. If you meddle with drugs that is the risk. Hopefully a plus could come from this if youngsters, fans and non fans will learn that you only have one human life.. Dont waste it, life is not a computer game remember you only have one. You dont need drugs.

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 15:11

The cause of death

has not been released yet

it may not be drug related?

MsGarnet


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Posts: 989

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 16:08

EamonnMc - Msg 49



Those who hated God and religion, e.g. Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and many others, were lovely fellows- never a cause of any trouble in the world and definitely ... no blood on their hands !!!



I disagree - Hitler said "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." Raised a Catholic, in a speech in 1922 he remarked, "My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter..."



Stalin. Communism is a comprehensive, all-embracing religion and not simply a political party, political system or philosophy



Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge were composed of Buddhists, Pol Pot was a Theravada Buddhist. He studied at a Buddhist monastery and then at a Catholic school for eight years. Cambodia's communism was influenced by Theravada Buddhism.Therefore, Pol Pot was definitely not a Christian, but he was also definitely not an Atheist

cyprusairsoft



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Message Posted:
25/07/2011 18:33

problem was with her ability to earn she was able to feed her habit



get the dealers then no drug problem

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 19:38

re message 54, could it have been old age then

EamonnMc


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Message Posted:
25/07/2011 21:26

MsGarnet,



What Hitler said in 1922 and what he did during the war years were completely at odds. In 1922 he had no power whatsoever and was probably just saying what his audience wanted to hear ! He fooled Chamberlain with his weasly words and his acts during the war years are well known and rightly abhorred ! Religion was taken over in Russia by the communists (China also ) and therefor suppressed ! Pol Pot and his regime murdered all the intellectuals ( priests and nuns included ) and murdered his own people !! Their acts were the antithesis of God and religion and resulted in tens of millions of deaths and misery for hundreds of millions !!!

laptarunner



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Posts: 217

Message Posted:
25/07/2011 22:38

Are we once again not drifting from the subject?

philbailey


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Message Posted:
26/07/2011 02:17

No msg 57, it could be drink related

lets see how many ex-pats condemn that

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
26/07/2011 02:24

A source said: "Amy's family are expecting the outcome to be a heart attack or seizure and will be really shocked if it's not.



" In the end it was her booze addiction that killed her.



"She had had a number of seizures in the past six months due to the amount she was drinking.



"She was putting so much away towards the end, her heart just couldn't take it."

JohhnyLee


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Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
26/07/2011 03:05

Yes well lots of could be guilty of that !

Hoylemiller



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Posts: 240

Message Posted:
26/07/2011 09:40

‎5 days ago a true British hero was killed fighting for our country.

Did you know this?

Do you know his name? Did you care?

A singer addicted to drugs and alcohol dies and its all over the news, facebook and twitter in minutes!!! !

RIP Corporal Mark Anthony Palin from 1st battalion the Rifles

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
26/07/2011 10:01

so no drug connection then ....isnt alcohol a drug anyway, well its addictive

JohhnyLee


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Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
26/07/2011 12:39

Hoylemiller, That is very sad news,



It is also agood point. Yes I care. I also think that the British Goverment shoud cease now from keep sending young men and women to early graves.



But was he fighting for our country ? or maybe another Country that we should not really be involved with.

MsGarnet


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Posts: 989

Message Posted:
26/07/2011 13:14

The 'we have to be realistic' strategy



"Naively, many people took the view that we would turn it into a Western-style democracy ... We'd all love to have equal opportunities ... to have perfect human rights ... but is that achievable anywhere? I mean, how long has it taken a mature democracy in the West to get to that stage? Hundreds of years, and we're trying to say we can achieve that in 10."



Brigadier Ed Butler



Mastermind of UK strategy against the Taliban in Helmand

August 2009





The above is why when my daughter was in the TA at Uni, and likely to be deployed, I told her I would lock her up, rather than allow my Government to use her as cannon fodder. This man did NOT die defending our country, as usual, Government stuck its nose in, and achieved - what? He should NOT have been there, his family should sue Government. Amy chose chemicals, Corp. Palin chose the Army, their life choices sadly killed them both.

wanderer


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Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 18:21

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-amy-winehouse-story/4od#3216484

A good programme on Channel 4 last night balanced and well presented its amazing how people can survive the intense press & public scrutiny.

AMY Winehouse's grieving dad Mitch told mourners at her funeral yesterday how she was on the brink of conquering her demons.

The 60-year-old cabbie gave a moving eulogy in which he said the tragic singer had made a "fantastic recovery".

He insisted she weaned herself off drugs three years ago.

And he said: "She was trying hard to deal with her drinking and had just completed three weeks of abstinence.

"She said, 'Dad, I've had enough of drinking. I can't stand the look on your and the family's faces any more'."

He added: "She was the happiest she has been for years."





Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3716763/Amy-Winehouses-dad-Mitch-tells-mourners-how-she-was-on-brink-of-conquering-demons.html#ixzz1TJr7HnSR

jimchris09


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Posts: 547

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 18:37

Today people still remember the likes of Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Marilyn Monroe, Janis Joplin, Hank Williams, Patsy Cline and of course John Lennon and Elvis.....I somehow feel Amy won't be remembered as such over 30 years from now!

tonyf


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Posts: 153

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 19:10

msg 68 How right you are, whilst some of the above mentioned also had drug/drink problems, they were also super stars. Miss Winehouse unfortunately was seen as a role model by our youngsters, lets us hope that they do not follow her lead.

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 20:09

As stated on another post

Sir Paul Mccartney

Mick Jagger

all major pop/rock stars use or have used drugs



if you don't agree throw out your record collections



Elvis I could go on



Most of the charity gigs you attend are playing songs

from drug takers



get real





rant over

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 20:12

Oh sorry forgot the bloke who played at Princess Diana's funeral



a self confessed cocaine addict



but everyone bought the single



Hypocrites

MsGarnet


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Posts: 989

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 20:38

Msg 68 and 69 - Amy will most definitely be remembered in thirty years time, and beyond...both for having died young (we all remember Janis Joplin and her incredible soulful songs) and for having an amazing, unique voice, and especially, her album, Back to Black - an absolute classic...

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
28/07/2011 00:50

Msg 72 , I agree

sad but true

ask yourself now without google to name the norwegian

killer



as D/D said



who will be remembered most ?



I know where my money will be