Is he Mad, Bad or clever?

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 06:47

Anders Breivik the Norwegian shooter. In a statement by his lawyer this morning on BBC, said that this man is insane.

But is he? or is he still playing a game, by acting insane he will go to a secure psychiatric unit as oppose to prison.



Which brings us to the debate is he mad or just bad?



Chris

Ralph96



Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 531

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 07:10

He's a complete Nutter!

sloan



Joined: 24/02/2009
Posts: 808

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 07:13

I did think it was rather presumptuous of the lawyer. There cannot possibly have been time for a full assessment yet. He just seemed to be preparing a way for the defence.

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 07:18

Chris,



It all seemed to calculated to me to be insane therefore I am going for bad

boglefan



Joined: 07/06/2009
Posts: 511

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 07:46

just plain bad through and through

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 08:40

he is just a very very bad bad person and i don,t think that he is insane ??????/

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 08:46

All of the heading !!!

bondi


Joined: 12/07/2007
Posts: 116

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 08:47

He appears to be a controlled psychopath obsessed with his own right wing views - he certainly knew what he was doing. How many of them out there - its shudderingly frightening.

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 08:49

In my mind, anyone that can open fire on so many children has to be insane...but then again...what really, in medical terms, constitutes insane??



Not that long ago, talking to oneself was considered insane...i do it all the time..or at least i think i do...!!



What is the absolute definition of insanity....?? And can one be 'turned' mad just by listening to to someone ranting and raving.....i think so....



DD

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 08:54

not mad or bad just down right EVIL

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 09:14

Should have been smothered at birth - simply 'bad seed'; and when they're like that there's nothing to be done.

Teresa


Joined: 21/11/2007
Posts: 1018

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 09:18

Chris this man had some serious serious fanatical views not just against muslims but also against women working. He hated anyone connected to the labour party (his own lawyer is a member). This was a well thought out a planned attack on innocent people not the actions of anyone who is insane.

Considering the fact his lawyer is a labour party member how can he defend the actions of this man in a court of law so i think the insanity plea is his way out and as he said in his own interview if he does not accept this advice then he will need to look for a new lawyer.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 09:20

*I* think we're giving this guy JUST the sort of attention he has always craved :(

Teresa


Joined: 21/11/2007
Posts: 1018

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 09:22

Mark for once i agree with you OMG i dont believe i just said that

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 09:31

Agree with Mark. He's after his '15 minutes of fame'.

Enchanted


Joined: 20/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 09:36

Once he is inside, the others will get him. Hopefully they will pull all his finger nail out first , then castrate him, and then string him up.!

BoTanica


Joined: 22/12/2009
Posts: 714

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 09:37

Most of these "crazy" fanatics shoot themselves (or are shot by police) before capture, he hasn't - in my opinion finished his mission. Will he be allowed to spout his hate in a court of law I wonder? I agree he is after attention but I think he will get more than 15 minutes worth.

DoctorW


Joined: 28/11/2010
Posts: 334

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 10:05

We may be giving this man the attention that he craves, but only by understanding what causes these sorts of events can we begin to look at how to stop them. I agree with Bondi, however 'psychopath' is a term often misunderstood and can cover a wider range of personalities than most of us believe. An interesting article, easy to read, but quite lengthy is attached.



http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath_2.htm



It may make you think seriously about people you know. However be aware that there are many psychopaths in the world, not all are mass murders.

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 10:19

msg 15...Agree with Mark. He's after his '15 minutes of fame'.



Bill, I think it's safe to say "he's certainly got that"

flowerfairy


Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 1277

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 10:29

All this agreeing with Mark, see, something came good out of this post.

I think the only 15 minutes of fame this guy should get is when they put him down for good.

What good can he do for society?

If ever there was a case to bring back the death penalty, it's now.

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 10:52

The time and money which will be spent in trying to determine whether or not he is clinically and/or legally insane could perhaps be better spent on the bereaved. The end result surely must be the same, that he is securely locked up where he can not cause harm to, or suffer harm from, others, which again will be at great expense. I doubt that he will be given much opportunity to harm himself but if it happens not many will feel it to be a loss.

babydoll


Joined: 27/07/2011
Posts: 140

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 13:44

it would of been easier all round if he was taken out on the island

Krin52


Joined: 25/08/2008
Posts: 419

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 14:26

I was delighted to read an article this morning :



"A German hacker group has called for online users to circulate altered versions of the 1500-page manifesto by Norwegian terrorist suspect Anders Behring Breivik, until the original document is drowned out by copies.



"Ensure that Anders becomes a joke, so nobody takes him seriously any more," declared the hacker group Anonymous on Tuesday.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/ensure-that-anders-becomes-a-joke-hackers-act-to-wipe-out-norway-manifesto-20110727-1hyzf.html#ixzz1TIuc4aiA





Perfect! Dilute his ranting until it becomes a joke - and make sure he knows it.

DoctorW


Joined: 28/11/2010
Posts: 334

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 14:29

It may have been a hell of a lot easier. However that would not have pleased him so he surrendered / was captured.



This fact alone shows that we are better than they who would commit these crimes. Our restraint, while maybe playing into the arms of someone like him, proves that most of us have a strong sense of right and wrong and thats what makes the world safer for ourselves, our children and our granchildren.

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
27/07/2011 14:32

I would say he is a psychopath.