zerochior v aligator ?

woody


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 14:57

The choice has come down to zorochoir or aligator I think these are both good systems so it all comes down to price how much to install and maintain a 12 x 6 pool ?

itfc1978


Joined: 31/03/2009
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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 15:17

Really depends on what you want to do, clean the pool yourself or get someone in



Zerochlor is vastly cheaper up front but has ongoing costs and because you need to get the balance right you may feel that it is easier to get someone in to clean the pool.



Aligator is pricey up front,but very low cost thereafter and because you only need to chuck in a small amount of chlorine every 7 to 10 days very easy to maintain yourself.

Electrodes cost £90 and last 18 months.

Mine actually went on for a couple of years.



I know from own experience Aligator works well and Zerochlor has plenty of satisfied customers.

So it`s win win depending on what you want to do

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 15:20

Woody.



Im not going to get involved in this thread as id be accused of being bias.

woody


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 16:06

Thanks itfc1978



very informative wish all popst were as helpful !



but as we don't live here full time would have to get someone in an all round cost would be helpful

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 16:25

Woody.



Moving away from chlorine is a great idea and the choice comes down to your choice and how much money you wish to spend.

Useing a Aligator i think on your size of pool in the summer you would have to run your pump around 12 hours a day in the peak summer months and around 10 hours per day in the winter months,TRNCVaughan would be able to offer you a more accurate time scale of pump running times,mine is a estimate.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 16:36

Just a follow up woody.



I see your pool is 12x6,would i be right in thinking it is over 100,000 litres including balance tank if overflow pool?



If so you would require the larger size Aligator system,meaning commercial Aligator,again TRNCVaughan would be the best man to tell you.



I was lead to understand that a pool of over 100,000 litres would need a commercial Aligator or a different Aligator than one to say run a pool of 70 to 80,000 litre pool.

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 16:40

Hi Woody.



Its all about choice and money i suppose.



With zerochlor you would run your pump just normal hours.2 hours in the winter and 6 to 8 hours in peak summer months.

I think a 12x6 pool if you had a Aligator you may need to run the pump 12 hours a day in the summer and maybe 10 hours in the winter,but i could be wrong with these times,TRNCVaughan would offer you better advise,either system you are going to move away from chlorine.So that would be great.

woody


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Posts: 171

Message Posted:
03/08/2011 16:52

Never had a chlorine pool we have aquamaid fitted when pool was built and have been happy with it just thought maybe things had moved on

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 16:56

why not stick with your Aquamaid?

ScubaBoy9


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 17:39

Re message 7



Vaughan stated in a previous thread



"An Aligator only needs about 6 hours per day in summer so the pump running at the same 6 hours needs no extra running.



The Aligator has a very low power consumption and its own running cost is negligible"



So basically it seems like you just run it alongside the normal running time for the pump, with very little additional cost. So it seems to me teh cos is basically the initial cost of the Aligator plus new electrodes every couple of years. So I guess to make a proper comparrison you would need to know the life expectancy of an Aligator and then compare that with the cost of Zerochlor over the same period

ScubaBoy9


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 17:43

or even 'the cost' is basically the initial cost of the Aligator plus new electrodes

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 17:44

Scubaboy.



so in any 24 hour period,you mean the pump only needs to be on 6 hours?

woody


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 17:47

with aquamaid pump runs 8 hours a day summer 4 hours a day winter

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 17:49

Do Electrodes need changing more often here with us having such hard water??

ScubaBoy9


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 17:49

That is what I read from Vaughns previous comments. I have only copied what he has stated previously. Personnally I have no idea I don't own one

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 17:52

Cheers scubaboy



The Aligator website states that it should be on for 6 hours inthe summer in every 12 hours.



We work with 24 hours in each day,so my guess at 12 hours i think could be correct!



Check out the link



http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/aligatorhours.jpg/

ScubaBoy9


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 18:08

Interesting, It looks like Vaughan may have miss quoted the times in his previous post. I guess I will leave it to him to clarify. At least when that is clear we can make some proper comparisons

allycatthree


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Posts: 86

Message Posted:
03/08/2011 19:52

I have had an aligator for two years, water is minerial water, only need a cup or so of acid if the top up is a little ph high, run 4 hours a day when not there and winter, two hours a day more in the summer, electodes still good after two years, no algi, no discolour. Had a watermaid before and did not realy like it and had algi and lime build up and dont like chemicals much at all.

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 23:27

allycatthree, that's most interesting but what do you mean by saying " water is mineral water" ?

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
03/08/2011 23:33

Aligator is a great system.



Anything that moves you away from chlorine has got to be good.



Looking at the makers running times and the post 18,the makers must of got it all wrong!

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
04/08/2011 14:41

The table shown in the link in msg 16 needs interpreting.

It is entitled "On hours for 12 hour period"

The table shows the largest pool needing 8 hours in summer and 6 in winter. This is automatically selected when choosing programme 6 during set up, and manually toggling between winter and summer. The pump programme must be set for at least 8 hours in summer and 6 in winter. The whole cycle must happen within 12 hours, not 24. For example, if you set the pump to 1 hour on and 1 hour off etc., until you had run the Aligator for 8 hours, it would have taken 15 hours in total, when it must not exceed 12 hours in total.

Most Aligator customer in TRNC run their pumps/Aligators for a lot less than the suggested table.

Pools larger than 100,000 require an additional cell, not a commercial unit. Commercial units are suitable for communal/commercial pools, seal and penguin tanks/pools in zoos.

Electrodes usually last about 18 months, but we have found that 2 years is about normal for TRN

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/08/2011 14:50

Thanks for clarifying that vaughan,that chart is a little misleading when it says in a 12 hour period.



Happy chlorine free swimming folks



The aligator way or zerochlor way

allycatthree


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Message Posted:
13/08/2011 14:15

vaughan, what r you currently charging for replacement electrodes?

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
14/08/2011 03:50

Message 18



You forgot to say what you oxidise with ?

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
14/08/2011 06:46

msg 23,



90 pounds

allycatthree


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Message Posted:
14/08/2011 11:00

Msg 25, thanks, might need some soon,