man city 1 - spurs 2, now finally on our whey up

mouthy git


Joined: 24/09/2008
Posts: 41

Message Posted:
09/11/2008 19:52

anyone see the spurs game, the prem's open this year

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
09/11/2008 22:44

another win and we are starting to look like a team playing with purpose!!! and bent is on fire has scored more goals than berbatov and keane put together and most important gomes looking like a proper goalie,the league is quite open one more win and we will be up to 10th will start getting dizzy

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
09/11/2008 22:59

Erkan,

What a difference a manager makes.Someone who can instill that self belief into the players minds.Everyone new that it was there it was just getting the best out of the individuals.There ias alot to be said for player power though.Bentley for England,

Paul.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
09/11/2008 23:34

hi mate

i can name a few for england mate!!! bentley-jenas-woodgate-lennon-bent

of course the quality is there like u said just needs the right man and it is starting to look like sir harry is the man

stewy


Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 279

Message Posted:
09/11/2008 23:44

Two teams with mid table mediocraty written all over them...

teddybear9026


Joined: 09/11/2008
Posts: 3

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 01:28

they are still not out of the woods only one point of the relegation place

goonerstan



Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 08:16

you deluded spud,s every season you spend great loads of dosh, boast about how you will get into four place maybe you should all keep quite and let your football do the talking , your still only one point of relagation , and already you spout crap about being in 10 place with one more win, very average team same goes for sir harry (lol)

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 10:08

If you saw the game Spurs did not win the match Man City threw it away. One nil up and dominating they were stupid enough to get a player sent off (no complaints about the decision) and they made little effort to chase and close the game down. They made it easy for Spurs and were rightly punished. The second sending off (again correct) just about clinched it though City did have a couple of half chances at the end.

Spurs are riding their luck at the moment so good luck to them.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 12:00

hi

gonnerstan was waiting for you to make a apperance after your team could not beat us even thou you was dominating the game!! and that draw totally demoralised you lot and just cos u was lucky to beat man u (which is not that hard this season) does not mean you lot will win anything league or champ league you cant even beat fenerbache at home!!! maybe you can have our mickey mouse cup and we will have the fa.cup or uefa!!! lol

dont be jealous mate your team can only dream of spending the money we do but instead you have to depend on the youth plus you have not got enuf depth in your squad to sustain any chance of winning the league so aim for your 4th spot and another year of winning nothing at least your stadium is full and your ladies team are dominating their league!!!! lol

goonerstan



Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 12:22

uk turk, when i say you deluded spuds you are a prime example you have never won a premership or played in a champion league final, to win champion,s league you have to be in it, again instead of the continual boasting about what your going do, just do it for once, In 10 yrs you have never been in front of gooner,s roll on st totterings day again, maybe earlier than last year

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 12:38

A good way to divert attention for you own under-performance is to point out the faults of others.....



If Brian clough didn't say this... he bloody well should have...

goonerstan



Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 12:58

STARRY wonderfull responce from yourself, if thats the best you can do why bother ?

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 13:48

stan

belive you me im not deluded!!!! i know the facts other than a few cups we have not been a major force since the 60's,70's,80's and for a club like spurs the original north london team it is not good enuf but at the end of the day what you havent had you dont miss lol

but what can be said for your team you might have won the premireship but thats history what have you won in the last three years zilch!!! the problem with your club too many power hungry people on your board a yank, a russian, a woman and a dodgy jewish diamond dealer!!! lol at least spurs supporters are not as fickle as gonners who complain that you havent bought any world class players so before slating other teams look at your own who is a spent force ever since david dein was ousted out of your club

ukturk

goonerstan



Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 14:01

uk turk , firstly your quite correct appart from dennis, we dont buy reconized world class players , but i think you would agree we do make our players into world class for a fraction of what other,s pay as regards to a spent force at arsenal maybe your just haveing a bad day, ps regards fenner game did it realy matter when we thrashed them in Istanbul hope your day improves (lol)

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 14:34

no mate im having a tip top day!!!

yes you are right you do make unknown and has been players into world class but then what do you do go and sell them to world class clubs and what happens you have to start all over again with youth and build them up and then gonners wonder why they havent won nothing recently and you will be lucky to hold on to van persie and fabregas aswell as adebayor this season when you havent won nothing!!!!

like i said aswell as dein leaving, on the field the biggest mistake was letting viera and henry go and also bringing in two waste of space defenders gallas and silvestre thats why you have leaked so many goals and not forgetting you have no physical pressence never mind!!!

and you right it does not really matter that you thrashed fener in istanbull cos you are not going to win champ league when you cant even beat them at home and they are not exactly a strong team this season

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 14:58

and before you say we do the same, even thou i was gutted keane left good bit of buisness for a 28 year old with no resale value and has only got a few years left in him and not forgetting berbatov even thou he is class earning 20mill cant be sniffed at and both are not exactly shinining for their new teams

goonerstan



Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 15:01

uk turk, i don,t consider ade/ van persie world class, both henry and patrick wanted to go , you cant say that we did,nt have the best out of them both while at arsenal, if a player wan,ts out so be it , maybe we won,t win c/league but we have a far better chance than you spuds who have never been in it,if you watched the game saturday gooners v man u you saw the two best footballing sides in premership great advert for english football, regards c/league following on from your assumption that gooners can,t win chelsea loss must also make them with no chance, keep takeing the tablets liverpool wendesday night best of luck i think you will need it again

truffles808


Joined: 16/10/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 15:08

Wot about us poor Man City fans - richest club in the world????? contradiction in one sentence!

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 16:40

What about poor Man City fans (see post 8)

If you look at what Harry has achieved since he joined and you are honest about Spurs you should admit

1) Outplayed in the first half by Bolton but led 1 0 at half time, then totally locked out in the second, the keeper was dreadful and Bolton contrived to get a man sent off and then gave away a stupid penalty 2 0

2) Arsenal threw away 2 points by trying to be clever and score a fifth when they should have closed the game down and settled for 4 2

3) Liverpool missed so many chances that I lost count at 20

4) And then last nights game.

Spurs are really a dreadful team let down by previous management, but I feel sure with Arrys magic they will probably finish in the top half of the table.

truffles808


Joined: 16/10/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 17:01

Lucky run, the bubble will burst soon. Us city fans, well we are use to it - all got very very broad shoulders!!!!! Once we get a new goalie [hart ok but young] and replaced our captain, got some one in mid- field, new left back........the list is long, but now we have bottomless pockets, who knows

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 17:19

I disagree.

Hart will probably be the England No 1 in the next year or so and is worth keeping, and with Richards, Jo, Ireland, Wright Phillips and Robbo it is the basis of a very good team, though unfortunately without the strength in depth of the top 4. The worst possible thing City can do is sack Hughes. Give it a couple of years and a Champions League position beckons.

As a side issue what has happened to the flying Petrov.

truffles808


Joined: 16/10/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 17:29

I agree, Hughes should stay, he cannot make an impact overnight it will take time.

Petrov injured his knee / ligament on international duty and hoped intense treatment would be ok, but he has now gone to Spain for an operation and now will be out for the rest of the season - a bit of a blow. Yesterday the ref did not take into account the weather conditions - it was VERY wet and skiddy on the pitch and we got soaked which doesn't happen very often where we sit.

I am glad to see your lot are off the bottom of the table as you do not deserve to be in that position.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 17:32

cjtill

goonerstan will prob agree with me it does not matter how you get their as long as you get their just look at the arsenal side under george graham the most boring team everand always got outplayed but still grinded out results and sometimes lady luck has to shine and its about time it shone on the spurs

you say bout last nite it had nothing to do with man c playing rubbish it was man c 4 time player of the year dunne who threw the game for them but still clinical finnishing by bent who is starting to show wot he is made off

against arsenal spurs never gave up!!!, liverpool we was a bit lucky but still got the result you fail to say how we demolished dinamo zagreb or was we lucky in that game aswell!!!

how can you say we have got a dreadfull team i wud not call woodgate-king (when fit)-bale-hutton-jenas-lennon-bentley-modic-hudlestone dreadfull and of course bent who has found a new lease of life under rednapp!!

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 17:48

man c are in a difficult postion they are the richest team in the league, but they have to clear all the dead wood that erickson bought, i agree hughes is a good manager but he is a type of manager who cant deal with superstars thats why he will find it hard if the arabs want to bring in more stars, just look hughes wants to bring in santa cruz in jan now if that was me and ive got a bottomless bit i wud be aiming higher than santa cruz who has had one good season i cant really see hughes staying around if all the stars come in jan or summer time he wont be able to cope man city need a world class coach who the stars will look up to

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 17:48

Didnt see the Euro game as I dont count any of the foreign games as important as the Premiership. I feel sure that most of the supporters you speak to would prefer to win this than the Champions League so I tend to ignore non premiership games.

I am afraid we differ on players skill level in the Premiership, which is fair enough but not one of the players you mentioned (or any others in the Spurs current squad) would get a place in the top 4 teams reserve squad.

Of the 9 players you mentioned I doubt if 2 will be playing for Tottenham this time next year, which can only be a good thing. This is not a put down on your club but if they clear the decks in January and give Arry some decent cash to spend then there is hope.

goonerstan



Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 18:24

uk turk, i would never subscribe to say spuds are a dredfull team , they have had some poor managers, i still think martin joll was one of your present day exellent coach , had he been given more time i think now you would have been a threa,t jury still out on harry boy , but i wouldnt buy a used cortina from him nor from george ( lol)

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 22:46

i totally agree with you gs joll was a top coach every one respects him in the game, it had nothing to do with time mate it was that commoli wegners mate!!!! loads of gonners all say he was useless, he was the one that got the jol the sack, they always argued, if jol was still around we would have defo seen cham league football and ramos wos supposed to take us to the next level good coach but lack of communication was his downfall, i also agree bout harry everyone at the club is on a buzz at the moment but to me even thou he is a good manager he is not proven enuf for me to break in to the top 4, my god this is the first time we have agreed on something!!!! lol

yeah harry and george more like dell boy and arthur dailey!!!! lol

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
10/11/2008 23:14

hi cjtill

anyone in football from supporters to the team see the champions league as the holy grail because your team are competing agaisnt the best teams in europe to be crowned european champion so it is just as important as winning the league finacially and status, and lets be honest over the years it has only been two clubs in it to win the premireship previously the gunners and man u and recently man u and chelski, if you asked mr wegner what cup he would love to win belive u me he would say champ leage the only cup to have escaped him so far

belive you me there would be more than 2 players left in the team this time next year and to say the team is dreadfull is a bit far fetched there are some other teams in the league that are much worse

you cant clear your whole team in the jan very few top players leave their clubs when they are still in all major competitions and if you replace a lot of players it takes time to jel it happend to spurs this season

japal


Joined: 12/08/2008
Posts: 89

Message Posted:
11/11/2008 17:24

Talk about sour grapes.There are a lot of typical fickle football supporters about A few weeks ago Spurs were ( and prob rightly so) the butt of every joke on the streets and in every pub. A few weeks later, and everyone says they are lucky. There is nothing lucky about coming back from 2 goals at the Emirites. Not many teams can and will do it. As for Liver, Bolt, and City, it was all down to their own failings. A lot of managers say " the sign of a good team is to win when you are playing badly" so......... wait till the yids start playing well.

goonerstan



Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
11/11/2008 18:14

nothing fickle about this gooner, every team has to have an element of luck, i think yidoo,s have already used up there,s , were still waiting for you to start playing well, but will agree winning games and playing average is a sign of a potential good team, just keep looking up gooner,s are always on top should be a good game tonight arse v wigan

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
11/11/2008 20:27

I dont think there are any teams in the Premiership that are any worse than Spurs, its just that the supporters of the likes of Bolton, Wigan, West Ham, Fulham and Sunderland to name a few have no expectations of success just survival and at best mid table.

The trouble with Spurs supporters (and Newcastle) is that they expect by right to at least finish in the top 5 or 6 every year, and cant really understand why every season they fail.

Lower you expectations you spurs fans and rejoice if you are not relegated this season.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
11/11/2008 20:44

cjtill

this is something u wont understand firstly newcastle is their only team in that area so everyone expects them to do well, and of course spurs aswell as the gonners are the only teams in north london so expectations will remian high for both teams with such history and tradition which other teams supporters will never understand!!!!

u say about expectaions but i have a saying which rings true even with football 'its better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low'

spurs have not failed the last two seasons finnished 5th and last season won the mickey mouse cup and have been in europe for the last 3 seasons and u ask any puntit spurs were the only club they cud see break into the top 4 and ramos was supposed to do that but did not work out so we have to start again and most of you fans who support all the lil teams can look forward to mid table postions!!!!

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
11/11/2008 20:50

ohh please man city even with robino are playing some dire football, w.b.a going straight down, stoke quite physical but no quality, sunderland bought loads of players cant pass the ball, bolton no good since big sam left, blackburn no direction with new boy ince, newcastle joe has not got a clue

if anyone know about their football look at them clubs before any1 says spurs are worse than these clubs at the moment

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
11/11/2008 21:05

Not a bad way of looking at it, failing while aiming high, as long as you dont get too upset afterwards as most spurs fans seem to.

Good luck

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
11/11/2008 21:27

ukturk quote

"this is something u wont understand firstly newcastle is their only team in that area"....

Where on earth do you think Sunderland & Middlesborough are located ... Oh I know somewhere north of Watford...

As for the likes of Wigan ,Bolton & Blackburn they are in a catchment area of 4 biggish clubs... M.U. .. M.C. .. Liverpool & Everton ..

When there are 70,000 watching M.U. it is 2/3rds the population of Blackburn & the other 1/3rd are Pakistani ... You are quite right it is all about survival for these lil teams, but you need them or there would be no-one for you to play...

BTW look at the list of premiership winners & the lil team of Blackburn appears they "bought" it & after all the big teams came & bought all the players at 5 & 6 times what Dalgleish paid for them... One season wonders... Spending 77 million wouldn't be classed as "buying it" if Spurs got their hands on it ... Bet you wish Spurs could "Buy it" & be one season wonders...

japal


Joined: 12/08/2008
Posts: 89

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 08:13

Goonerstan msg 32 ok i agree every team needs an element of luck. As the great Bill Shanks once said " you never know how much `luck ` plays a part in football until it runs out". So I assume the gooners luck ran out when they played fulham stoke hull and the spurs. And as for looking up..... the gooners need to do the same... just that the yids have to look further........ at the moment

goonerstan



Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 08:44

japal, no our luck didnt run out , we had none, noticed you didnt mention last night game average age 19yrs 6 english players future looks good for gooners you been looking up for 10yrs at least, maybe another another 10 sour grapes i dont think so, have a nice day.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 11:25

harita

if you know about your cities in the north east all three clubs are located in three diffrent cities, sunderland over 15miles away from newcastle and boro located over 35miles away so like i said newcastle fc are the only club in the area of newcastle!!!!

so anyone that lives in newcastle will support their local club thats why the fans have high expectations because its not like they can support any other club

you try telling a barcode that a mackem is from the same area and you will see what that person will tell you!!!!



you say bout man u but that is also a fact that most people from the city support city and nearly all united supporters are from the catchment areas you are talking about which is a shame they dont support their local clubs that why these club will always remain small

and belive you me i would never want to buy success like blackburn and clubs like leeds look what happened to them over the years for a bit of success and now look at them suffering!!!

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 16:35

Hi ukturk

Blackburn won the title because at the time had a benefactor prepared to put his money where his mouth was ... The money had not started to come through from Sky television to all the clubs at this point ... Do you not agree that every club is trying to buy the title, but only one of the big 4 will succeed ...

Hate to think what would happen if Sky pulled the plug out ... A lot of the big clubs would go out of buisiness ... Leeds are still hanging in there & will be back ...

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 16:36

Hi ukturk

Blackburn won the title because at the time had a benefactor prepared to put his money where his mouth was ... The money had not started to come through from Sky television to all the clubs at this point ... Do you not agree that every club is trying to buy the title, but only one of the big 4 will succeed ...

Hate to think what would happen if Sky pulled the plug out ... A lot of the big clubs would go out of buisiness ... Leeds are still hanging in there & will be back ...

japal


Joined: 12/08/2008
Posts: 89

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 16:49

Hi again goonerstan, had`nt seen the result of last nights match when i last posted. But credit where its due a young side done very well, (dont know what sorta side wigan had out). but how many of those kids will make it big, i think prob 1. Unless of course they leave. Arse aint known for bringing thro kkids, they all have to move on. Anyway on a more lighter note.........is your mastermind specialist subject` Arsenal, the Last Ten Years` cos thats all you seem to mention. lol

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 22:37

totneham 3 scousers 0 half time

no1doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 22:41

looking good for the Spurs, but it's a game of two half's

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
13/11/2008 00:02

Economical with the truth yet again Mr Osburn! I suggest you remove those poncy tinted sunglasses and look at the Woolwich Spurs game again, you will see that all four of the Gooners goals came from defensive errors (and were scored by people from far away countries) while all Spurs goals were scored by English lads. Ever since you lot took up squatters rights in North London you`ve been suffering from a superiority complex. Whatsisname in Cyprus Today has your number as does UK Turk.



What do Spurs goalkeeper and Dracula have in common?





Both afraid of crosses!

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
13/11/2008 00:06

result scoure 3 spurs 4 ha ha ha look for the wheels on your busses spurs

Littlenige



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Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
13/11/2008 00:44

chelsea who ??

japal


Joined: 12/08/2008
Posts: 89

Message Posted:
13/11/2008 08:21

Liverpool who??

goonerstan



Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
13/11/2008 08:55

newscoop, economical with the true again, please explaine, poncy tinted sunglasses, they happen to be reading glasses, not that is any concern of yours, Whatsisname in cyprus today , i think you mean rev walker who i have know,n for a number of years total biased but a good honest guy,if you wan,t to talk football with me ok if you want to start being rude dont bother i have better things to do with my time. superior you bet.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
13/11/2008 09:57

yea lets see what the rev has to say on the great result of the season.



And on the spurs miricle.



keep going spurs you can make europe easy.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
13/11/2008 13:27

three weeks passed and so much has changed!!!

spurs being the brunt of every single joke but i dont hear them jokes no more

the best start for any spurs manager in 110 years the way harry is going on he will be given the key to the city and renamed sir harry!!!! lol

last night they was playing some excellent positional play and the passing was second to none and goal well taken,some might say liverpool had their second string out there but for a club alleged to be top 4 their up and coming players are a joke!!! and to say spurs did not have their full team out either its no wonder fabio has watched spurs every game since harry has taken over, lennon, ohara, huddlestone,bent ,bently,woodgate,jenas all deserve a call up,

with a quite easy run of games coming up i can see spurs climbing up the league and who knows what the rest of the season holds lets hope the bubble does not burst will like to see how harry deals with a bit of preasure if things not going good!!!

japal


Joined: 12/08/2008
Posts: 89

Message Posted:
13/11/2008 17:38

Well done Littlenige on your Burnley prediction. Not the correct score, but the right result.