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DoctorW


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09/08/2011 18:46

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Reports are coming over the TV and radio of incidents involving rioters last night in Dalston, East London.



Rioters apparantly attacked a shop belonging to a member of the Turkish community. Unfortunately for them the local Turkish shopkeepers were waiting, armed with baseball bats and other weapons. The result rioters running away with sore heads attempting to find an easier target.



http://100gf.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/turkish-shopkeepers-stand-guard-in-dalston-londonriots/



There is also actual footage on the web and further stories.



We have yet to hear a police spokesman telling citizens 'not to take the law into their own hands'



Perhaps on occasions like this they are quite happy to sit back and watch the fun



It is strange that when some with a racist agenda are quick to bring in the immigrant factor, that it is immigrants who are taking the lead in protecting against looters.



Lambousa Gordon


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09/08/2011 19:10

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Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/aug/09/london-riots-violence-looting-live



Daily Mail: "Hundreds of Turkish shopkeepers take to the streets in north London to defend their businesses"



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023932/London-riots-Powerless-police-let-mob-seize-streets-loot-start-fires-violence-spreads.html#ixzz1UXNPAcYC



Lambousa Gordon


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1.36pm: Jasmine Coleman has been talking to people who live either along or near Kingland High Street in Dalston, where Turkish and Kurdish shopkeepers were out in force last night.



Many are grateful to the workers around here and thank them for stopping the spread of violence from nearby Mare Street and Dalston Junction.



Debbie Mumdy, 41, who lives in Shacklewell Lane where a bus was set alight last night, said:



Most of the residents are really relieved that the Turkish community has been protecting the area. I think it was the same situation in Stoke Newington. It's thanks to these guys that Kingsland High Street wasn't attacked."



And Nick Smith, chairman of a charity fundraising business based near Dalston Junction, said:



It's brilliant. These guys are obviously going to keep the trouble down. I don't think this particular area is going to be attacked as a result."



dreamgirl


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09/08/2011 19:49

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they not show way they agresive to they out number thugs that time but next time may die govermont must stop riots more police



JohnW


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My daughter lives in Stoke Newington and cannot speak highly enough about how the Turks have protected the whole community. "Awesome" was how she described them.



bookworm


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09/08/2011 20:07

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Just watched NTV.According to the reporter Turks and Kurds together are helping the police against the rioters....



Lilli



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09/08/2011 20:15

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Just watched the same report what a strong community, well done to them and others who have helped . It can be done. JohnW I saw a what I think was a turkish cypriot lady tackle Doris?Boris , he was lost for words.



No1Doyen


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No doubt some 'do gooder' will say it's wrong to attack these poor looters as they come from broken homes and font have nothing to do because they can't get a job...etc etc ...



Jeannie


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09/08/2011 20:28

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Bill - there are quite a few already saying this (some on other, related threads on 44).



Someone actually said they were looting supermarkets because the poor little sods didn't have enough to eat. It was later pointed out that the loot consisted mainly of fags and booze.



I just wish some others would take a leaf out of the Turks/Kurds book and stand up for what is theirs. Stop all the pussyfooting around and fight fire with fire. It's the only language this scum understands.



DoctorW


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No 1 Doyen



Its wrong to attack these poor looters as they come from broken homes, havent got jobs and have nothing to do because they have spent all their dole money on fags and drugs - the poor things!



There you are - somebody did say it



DoctorW


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These poor looters,



starving so have to resort to eating cigarettes



Lilli



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Well the footage I have seen espicially the one where Debenhams was looted, it looked like very big items were being taken out. Looked like PCs or TVs Cant be much else left for them to loot x Oh the poor shop keepers. Who will do buisness in London tonight.



No1Doyen


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"starving so have to resort to eating cigarettes"



Brilliant! ) )



No1Doyen


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"starving so have to resort to eating cigarettes"







Brilliant! ) )



blade


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10/08/2011 10:18

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So two wrongs now make a right?

Tooling up with baseball bats ect is against the law in the UK is it not?

What would have happened if the mob didn't leave? It could have turned out very different.

I don't see this rioting is about theft, its about poverty and police abuse of the stop and search laws. Theft is just a bonus for them.



Sundance


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10/08/2011 10:38

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Blade, if it was poverty? there is not much in Curry,s Dixon,s and cloth shops worth eating, they should of gone to spec savers,



Sundance



Rogerdoger


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Blade,



This is not about poverty, its about theft! not stop and search lawes, let the police give them a good kicking, they won't be to eager to do it again! too many do gooders, Ohhhhhhh their human rights, what crap, what about the small shop owners, people who's houses have been burnt down, all because of mindless morons! who are doing this as a joke and they think it big, well what goes around comes around.



nurseawful



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10/08/2011 10:42

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All I can say is that if it was my property they were going to start looting and destroying, I would lift the first thing that came to hand and defend myself and property.



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10/08/2011 11:04

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this will help the turkish community who will earn much respect from the normal people of london who are scared.



crack some heads i say



simbas



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10/08/2011 11:11

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Footage of a brave West Indian , telling them what for in no uncertain terms ,and in language they understand



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rbkzVkXuMY&feature=related



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No1Doyen


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10/08/2011 11:17

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I agree. It's not about poverty - they don't have this sort of thing going on in Calcutta.



It's about Feral Thugs. They don't want to work and think society owes them something - so they gang ip and take what they want. I would arm myself if necessary and shoot anyone of them without blinking if they tried taking anything of mine that I've worked hard all my life for.



Stonehousepub


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10/08/2011 13:24

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Turks, Kurds,TC's and even some GC's joined forces and grouped up in three areas of london last night to protect their premises and the local streets, tonight over 1000 will be grouping up to potentially fight off any attempted attacks...



It's every persons natural right to protect his/hers livelyhood regardless of the consequences, and if I was there I would be doing the same.



Violence is the only language these thugs will understand.



lilyross


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Message Posted:
10/08/2011 13:52

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those poor looters and arsonists shouldnt all be tarred with the same brush its so unfair bless !.....most of them are law abiding Rapists and Drug dealers !!



trooper


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10/08/2011 15:35

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msge 15 - blade. you get my vote for the doziest person on the island. Good effort.



barbaros


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10/08/2011 15:48

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Blade





You have quoted more than once stop and search. There is a saying no smoke without fire.

I have friends who are from the Caribbean area but they don't have a problem with stop and search

but then they are law abiding citizens.

B



itfc1978


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10/08/2011 16:03

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/fed-residents-form-anti-looter-patrols-062625198.html





even stories of Millwall and Chelski supporters teaming up to protect the streets



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