calor gas heaters

snydalecyps


Joined: 03/07/2008
Posts: 108

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 10:20

Can anyone advise me where to buy these or does anyone have any for sale. We are feeling the cold already, goodness knows what we'll be like in Jan and Feb!!

Thankyou

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 10:34

You can buy these heaters in places like Arcelik. Be aware though, we had one last winter and found it to be very smelly and after a while it made my eyes water. They also produce quite a lot of condensation so you need to make sure that your room is well ventilated.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 10:35

Sarah,



Remember that gas heaters produce a lot of water... so you'll need to ventilate accordingly if you don't want damp problems...



I think they sell them in the electric shop next to Foxy Lady shoe shop. Near the new SaVoy hotel....

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 10:40

Bought a blue 10kg cylinder of gas yesterday and the cost has gone up to 30YTL from 24.5YTL, overnight!!

Given the smell and damp of gas heaters you may want to consider Ardo heaters, who have just opened a shop in Girne.

http://www.ardo.com.tr

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 11:23

Trncvaughn do you have a price for them, and are they any good was looking at the web site, not that much information, i also recall they had a advert in the cyprus today.

jock

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 12:37

Prices start at 200 pounds for a 300W panel, up to 430 pounds for a 2.2kW panel. These panels start to radiate heat almost instantly and come with a room thermostat. I have been trying one at home and I am impressed. Certainly convenient.

Skogsy


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 12:44

Hi Trncvaughn

What is the difference between these Panel type heaters and a regular lightweight slimline convector heater apart from the obvious purchase cost?



Skogsy

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
12/11/2008 14:48

As far as I can see, these are radiant heaters using low frequency infrared (whatever that is). Infrared light heats the surface it radiates onto, not the air in between. One advantage is it is nearly instantaneous.



A convector heater heats the air it is in contact with, which causes the air to rise and set up a circulation of warmed air (convection). This warmed air comes into contact with you and the heat is transfered from the air to you. One disadvantage is it takes time to heat up, thereby using much more power.



Convection is also less efficient than radiation in terms of heat transfer.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_heating

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convection

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 15:59

So if I was looking for something to warm up my bedrooms, would I be better off going for convection on the basis that I would like the room to be warm all the time rather than just when I am in there?

brian24001


Joined: 23/03/2008
Posts: 606

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 16:14

Please be very careful using a gas heater, especially in a bedroom.

A by rpoduct of burning gas is Carbon Monoxide (CO), you can't see it or smell it, but be under no illusion, it will kill you, much easier than most people realise.

You must switch off the heater when sleeping, and if at any time with the fire on you feel drowsy, switch off, and go otside for fresh air, and ventilate the room.

take a look at

http://www.muswell-hill.com/foxandco/pages/warningonmobileheaters.htm



They are expensive, but if you are going to use a gas heater, get a CO detector.



It's more important to stay safe than warm, warm is just a bonus.

snydalecyps


Joined: 03/07/2008
Posts: 108

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 21:02

Hi ,

Thankyou for you reply, I am intrigued how you know my name?

MaggieAndBernie



Joined: 26/07/2008
Posts: 2012

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 21:09

It's on your profile Sarah, just above your age & email address!

Skogsy


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
12/11/2008 22:02

Hi Sarah.

Skogs

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
13/11/2008 08:24

A radiant heater will heat any surface it "shines" on. It does not heat the air in between. However, once these surfaces become heated they will in turn release heat into the air due to conduction and thence convection. Consequently, the air in the room will become heated as well as if it was heated by a convector heater.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_conduction

Nemika



Joined: 05/04/2008
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
13/11/2008 10:22

does any one know where you can by the plug is oil filled heaters. im on a budget but need something safe for my little boys room at night

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
13/11/2008 12:36

Do you have Halogen Heaters over there?



They are extremely good for supplementary heating, very economical to run, and very very cheap in the UK. They are also lightweight and quite small, so would fit into a suitcase with ease if you are coming to the UK, or know of anyone who could get these heaters for you in the UK.

Groucho



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Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
14/11/2008 08:34

Kay they are even cheaper here...



You can get really good cheap ones from Super Home Centre or Target



They are good but the heat being radiated does not carry far.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
14/11/2008 10:06

where is super home , centre , Target . ?

snydalecyps


Joined: 03/07/2008
Posts: 108

Message Posted:
14/11/2008 11:29

Thankyou to everyone who replied, so many choices of heaters now !! I like the sound of halogen heaters so am going to check them out. I will let you know price etc

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
14/11/2008 11:33

the halogen heaters (imho) don't generat much heat - i went for the "traditional" electric "bar" type fire (like we had when were were kids).



Certainly happy with the heat, but not sure what it's going to do to my leccy bill !



any teccies out there know what the hourly cost is ? - it is 2000w





Nick

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
14/11/2008 12:06

2000W = 2kW

2kW every hour = 2 units

2 units at the lower rate of .30YTL = .6YTL per hour or 6YTL every 10 hours.

Thats at the lowest rate.

At the highest rate, which I think is .588, that equates to 1.412YTL per hour or 14.12YTL every 10 hours.

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
14/11/2008 12:12

...and if you are on builders electric the rate is 0.83 per unit. Ouch!

Cyprusactive


Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
07/12/2008 13:15

I write the Mr Fixit column in Cyprus Today so I must confess to a commercial interesting the matter of heating and more important ventilating.

I am just preparing an article on heating, maybe for the next issue. I have been trying to get costing equivalents for the various options so you can see the choices.

Any electric heating is very expensive here. I only use it for short term heatoing, for example I have a wall mounted fan heater in the bathroom. This has to be a special model as water plus electricty can be a problem. It only runs for short periods so is not too expensive. Wall panel , low infa red and other fancy names cannot detract from the fact they use expensive electricity. I see than a skirting heater is available it is offered with the 'made in scandanivia' cachet which immediately seems to imply that it does something other than run on very

expensive electricty, it does not!

Regards

Nick

Cyprusactive


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Posts: 128

Message Posted:
07/12/2008 13:25

to continue..

Gas is quick and easy and not so expensive to run but a 10kg bottle of gas produces 16litres of water and that has to go somewhere! Well sealed double glazing does not help and ventilation has to be provided. We have a whopping great diamond core drill and provide 'hit and miss' which are very effective. This has a bonus for those with open fires which often smoke, this is only because there is not an inflow of fresh air to replace what which would like to go up the chimney!

Costwise A/C units are not so bad but they generally are mounted high on he wall and waft out heat which goes straight to the ceiling. If you get some stilts you could keep warm.

Regards

Nick