Internet identity cloaker anyone done this

cac123


Joined: 20/07/2011
Posts: 82

Message Posted:
21/08/2011 19:56

I am moving out to North Cyprus next week and I am thinking of paying a company to provide me with an IP address in the Uk so I can pick up BBC iplayer when I came out. It will cost £70 a year, anyone done this and if so any comments.

EamonnMc


Joined: 18/06/2010
Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
21/08/2011 20:21

I use it regularly and have never had a problem. I consider it good value for money .

Teresa


Joined: 21/11/2007
Posts: 1018

Message Posted:
21/08/2011 21:21

I use expat shield and it is free, only had a couple of times when it has gone down.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 01:40

I believe a member

on here provides a free one

6m's

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 03:33

Personally I use these people



http://vpnuk.net/



5.99 GBP per month and can have two simultaneous connections per account.

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 07:56

Marks works very well-but of course some members want him thrown off the board,I hope they dont use it.

Then of course you can always pay for the washerwomens one!

clews



Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 09:41

I have used Identity Cloaker for two years without any problems . . .

halffull


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 12:15

Nethouse provide a free one.

halffull


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 12:17

I used Cloaker for a year before Nethouse provided a free UK VPN and had no problems with it.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 18:17

ok so i managed to download a cloaker...can anyone tell me ...when i watch backdated programmes , not live streaming,or downloading programmes, does this use up lots of my monthly 4gb , i have a dongle , it is all working well, just a little worried that 2 episodes of something will use up all my allowance...yes i am a technophobe

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 18:36

Moxie yes it will eat up some of your 4GB of usage, if you stream it or if you download it.



For downloading from a site like the BBC it will tell you how 'big' the given program is for download. The only issue is converting the size quoted to your allowance of 4GB.



So for example on iplayer at the moment the latest episode of 'Dragons Den' (ep 4) in normal not high definition quality for download via iplayer is listed as being 640MB. There are 1024 MB in 1 GB. You can call it 1000 for easy of calculation. So this espiode would be using approx .64 of a GB vs the 4GB you have each month. So 6 such epsiodes would use up nearly all of your 4GB ( 6*.64 = 3.84GB)

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 21:30

ok so i need unlimited usage for my dongle, and dowloading or watching live or backdated, etc uses the same amount ? Do you know how much this will cost from Turkcell per month/year ? Thank u Erolz

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 21:37

None of the two mobile phone operators have an unlimited 3g data service as far as I know.



The 'size' data wise of content will be different if you stream it vs if you download it. With download you know up front what the size of a given download will be. With streaming it is not so clear. Streaming often offers variable quality that changes depending on how your internet connection is behaving, lower quality when the connection is 'slow' and increasing it when it is 'fast'. For these reasons knowing ahead of time how much data will be used from a streaming service can be difficult. It will be in a similar ball park to the downloaded version, less if you specificaly select 'lower bandwith' version on something like iplayer, but it is not simple to know exactly how much data a given stream will actually use (unlike with download where it is explicitly stated and fixed).

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 21:44

Erolz im sure that i was offered unlimited by Turkcell just a month ago but declined as i wasnt into my i player then ! the one i have now is 4 G................im just viewing last weeks episodes, so i guess that is downloading as opposed to live streaming? oh dear im still confused.....help me Erolz 11 LOL :(

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 21:45

Erolz not 11 but !! ooppps

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 22:04

moxie maybe the mobile phone companies do offer an unlimited data service, you would have to check with them. KKTCELL website does nto show one here



http://www.kktcell.com/pages/2127.aspx



To try and explain the difference between



downloading a TV program from say iplayer

streaming a program

live streaming a program



With downloading you transfer the entire program to your computer before you can start watching it. The size will be a fixed amount of data. It does not matter how slow your internet connection is as far as watching the content, because it will first all be brought to your computer. THe speed of your connection will affect how long this takes but once it is downloaded it is all there and so there will be no interuption.



Streaming is where you click on a program and it starts playing almost immediately. Here you start watching the content as it is being delivered to your computer. This needs a certain minimum [cont]

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 22:08

speed from your connection, such that it can recive the necessary data quicker than you are consuming it (watching it). If your connection is not fast enough then the prgoram will stutter and stall as it waits for the download to catch up again. With this kind of viewing it is much harder to know ahead of time exactly how much dat will be sent.



Live streaming is like the above but reffers to when you watch something via streaming as it is actualy being broadcast by other means. I watch the F1 coverage via BBC live streaming, which means I watch it as it is happening in the real world give or take a minute or two.



In summary with downloading you can know before hand exactly how much data will be used. With streaming, be it of an 'old' TV program or of one that is being shown at that time in the UK on BBC, you can not easily know exactly how much data it will use.



I hope this makes sense ?

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 22:16

I'll try an analogy. It might help, it might not.



Imagine the TV content is water. Imagine watching the content is drinking. Imagine you want to drink a liter of water. Downloading would be where you pipe the whole liter of water from the source (BBC) into a container (your hard drive) and only once the full liter is with you, do you start drinking it. How fast the water is pumped determins how long it takes to get the liter to you, but once you have it you can drink it as fast as you like. Streaming would be where you drink from the end of the pipe as it is pumped to you from the source. If it comes slower than than the rate you want to drink it, then there is nothing to do but wait in these 'pauses' as it tries and fails to keep up with the rate you are drinking it. You can only drink it as fast as it can be sent. That is the difference between downloading and streaming.



I might have just confused things even more. Sorry if I have.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
22/08/2011 22:47

nooo Thank u ...finally i am now informed lol...that was really easy so now i need to investuigate my dongle !! and what it can provide.......meanwhile im going back to Corrie lol...Thank u sooo much Erolz that was the best expalnation ever ...maybe now im not such a technophobe ?

suel5


Joined: 16/01/2011
Posts: 69

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 00:23

Msg 18,

Thank you very informative

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 06:45

Thanks Erolz, very good link, i can even pay my bill online now

MrsSnakes



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 1100

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 07:50

Msg 8 & 9, I am with Nethouse and did not know this! Do you just visit the Nethouse office to arrange this please?

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 13:19

how annoying ..all was working well now i cant open the cloaker expat shield ...any answers?

cac123


Joined: 20/07/2011
Posts: 82

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 17:25

Thanks everyone, that was very useful.

Simhar


Joined: 18/05/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 18:21

Message 22 - Mrs Snakes, you need to call nethouse techinical for them to "open" it on your account. I have been using this for approx 12 months and I find it a bit up and down. 6m's provides a free one which I use for back up but i am hearing very good things about ex-pat shield. There you go a choice of three and all free!!!!

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 18:28

still no luck been uninstalling and downloading expat all afternoon....connection can not be established ...argh!!!