Well done stephen day and Brs

Chef99


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Message Posted:
23/08/2011 19:17

At the meeting today of Making North Cyprus Better Movement (MNCBM),Stephen day and Brs pleged thier support to the 8 point plan stop the blackmail facebook group also support the 8 point plan.



The leaders in Syria Morocco Libya saudi arabia yemen and algeria all ignored the power of social networking if the leaders of trnc do so be it on their heads we will not stay silent and let injustice flourish as WOLFIE SMITH said Power to the people !



900+ members http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_144931625579220

kavenkoy


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Message Posted:
23/08/2011 19:35

whats facebook ?

tomsteel


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Posts: 482

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 19:40

Wow, based on previous BRS support, the TRNC Government will be quaking in their boots! Are you seriously really advocating social unrest here?

Giles


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 19:42

I take it the sun is over the yardarm at 1917hrs in these parts!

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 19:50

Wolfie Smith - now there was a real rebel - a true hero of the people.

Tango1


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Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 20:21

Msg. 5......... can't really picture Mr S D in a beret can you??

Deniz1


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Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 20:55

In an anorak i think.

cooper


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Message Posted:
23/08/2011 20:58

Power to the people - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMKsR_wUSfA

spider


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Message Posted:
23/08/2011 21:17

This must come as very good news to a lots of unhappy people..Keep up the good work of awareness.









Spider,X

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
23/08/2011 21:20

Knock it all you want! (and cooper you still make me smile) it may change something? is that not better than sitting on your arses and letting the corruption continue? or do you all enjoy seeing other's continue to be deprived of their life savings! Perhaps you do?

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 21:36

Pauline has written about it on NCFP. About a 100 present. Pauline gave the support of the 908 members of the Stop the Blackmail in N.C facebook Group to the 8 point propossal. Stephen Day followed by giving BRS support as long as they were kept informed. No problem with that since a BRS member is on the committee.

birdman



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Posts: 690

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 23:30

But still not enough TC's attended the meeting and it is only THEY who can make a difference to the laws being changed. It is wonderful to see that the new committee have two TC's on it BUT there were a distinct lack of TC's at the inaugural meeting which doesn't bode well for it's future growth, I would have preferred this new group to join the "stop the Blackmail In North Cyprus" Group (which now has over 900 members) and bring their expertise and experience to an already existing committee. Their eight point plan is very good but is only duplicating what has been established already.

I was a little disappointed that a great opportunity was missed today to allow some of those present to "air their views" and give suggestions which might have helped the new committee.



Gerry

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
24/08/2011 07:22

Gerry, The overwhelming majority of Stop the Blackmail group are TC's unforutnately within that figure the majority of those live in UK - USA - Australia. They have been scammed either as property purchasers or as investors as have some of their relatives who do still live here. I know that if they could be here, they would.

I am trying, and indeed try at the meeting to ram home the point, they can influence the votes of their families who live here. THe govt. should be told this and we will tell them in no uncertain terms, whether they have the sense to listen?? Membership No. 918 and growing.



John we have given our support to the new grouip but please recognise it is BRS led, yes TC'S ON COMMITTEE BUT also BRS member. They should have taken this initiative some years ago. Stephen Day giving his support but with the rider they keep him informed tells you I am right.

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 08:52

It's a pity Stephen Day just received such a resounding vote of no confidence from this forum.



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/71727.asp

Molly


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 299

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 09:13

Jovial John - perhaps your name should be Jaded John?



SD is not liked by everyone but at least he's doing something to contribute. You??

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 09:31

I attended the meeting yesterday and was pleased to see a number of TC's there. I'm not sure I agree with those who believe the new Movement is BRS driven. It is only right that a Brit member should be on the new Committee, be he BRS or not. If this new organisation lives up to expectations (I would have loved to see hundreds more at the meeting - Apathy rules again I fear) then it will only be fulfilling a role that the BRS should have been doing for years.



I know BRS have meetings at Government buildings in Lefkosa, but to be honest, whatever comes out of these meetings (that is if BRS representatives are not left sitting for hours in a corridor) then it's never anything constructive is it?



So lets give this new organisation our support, OK?

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 09:33

Hey Molly - I'm not knocking him. My sentence starts "It's a pity" - how can you possibly construe that as criticism?

I didn't post a comment on the other thread and I have a lot of time for Stephen. I am simply pointing it out (with my regret) to those praising him here.

Mitch68


Joined: 19/04/2011
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 10:43

To Misunderstood message 13

"please recognise it is BRS led"

Please quote your sources, or is this supposition.

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 11:03

If you take it that there are around 600,000 people in the North - the 27th of Nov will give a better figure - then there are 599,000 who either do not use Facebook or could care less what is happening as they already have their own lives and are living them either happily or in ignorance of what is happening. I fit into both of those as I do not use and will not use Facebook - that means that I am excluded, by default, of any chance of viewing information contained on a Global chatter network.



Perhaps the "movement", lead by Wolfie and his gang of three could find a better way to publish "the 8 point plan stop the blackmail facebook group" and let 599,000 other people know what it is all about?



Just a thought and given with no malice intended to anyone, single person, group or movement. The Internet is a wonderful medium for information dissemination, but there is now so much information available that it has to be aimed properly at the target to be effective.

Chef99


Joined: 21/08/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 11:14

wado here is a link to the 8 point plan



http://northcyprusfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/8-point-001-218x300.jpg



and a more detailed version here http://northcyprusfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/8-point-005.jpg

waddo


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Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 12:02

Chef99, many thanks.

mamachina


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Message Posted:
24/08/2011 14:43

Posted on behalf of BRS Secretary

This event was organised by the new "Make North Cyprus Better Movement" (MNCBM), chairman Rahmi Ozsan, Vice chairman Attila Berberoglu and Malcolm Mitcheson MNCBM committee member, who also happens to be a BRS committee member. Also present on the panel was MNCBM legal adviser Boyson Boyra. This was not a BRS organised event. BRS committee members Stephen Day, John Oram, Rob Ovington and David Brown were also present IN THE AUDIENCE. The BRS committee agreed recently that the society supported the eight principles set out as the basis for the MNCBM objectives. As reported in todays Cyprus Today it was made clear to the meeting that we would do all we can to assist "where possible" but we expected to be consulted by MNCBM in any actions they took to implement their principle objectives. They undertook to do that. This is manifestly NOT a BRS organised event nor are BRS part of MNCBM itself which is an entirely seperate and new organisation.

Chef99


Joined: 21/08/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 14:53

Posted on behalf of BRS Secretary interesting difference between what s.day said and what is now posted but we expected to be consulted by MNCBM in any actions ...steven day said the brs committee had recently decided to support the 8 point plan but expected to be kept informed spot the difference....



any way well done Brs for supporting the 8 point plan and well done steven day and all who attended.

Earlybird


Joined: 28/04/2009
Posts: 816

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 15:19

Perhaps if you argued openly with the government instead of arguing 'who said what' and who supports who', the government may sit up and take notice!

philbailey


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Message Posted:
24/08/2011 15:23

Why only 100 people?

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
24/08/2011 15:33

I have beem assured by a member of the new committee for the Making North Cyprus Better Movement that they are in no way connected with the BRS and after being given such an assurance, I apologise that I implied otherwise.



I admit to being very reassured on this issuel





Pauline Read

Chef99


Joined: 21/08/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 17:37

Earlybird no one is arguing .



How can you help ?

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
24/08/2011 17:49

The 8 point plan is simplicity itself and that is why it should be taken up by the Government. There is nothing complicated or unattainable in the 8 proposals but will the Government see it that way. Time will tell.

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 18:05

Maybe the word "demand" in the link http://northcyprusfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/8-point-005.jpg should have been left out if a measure of sympathy from the Government is to be expected?



I can not ever remember anything being "Demanded" of a Government that actually came to pass. The plan seems fair enough but is it not already in place for most of it, yet either ignored or bypassed by the system of cousins that operates freely within most departments?



I still think that a more direct approach than a system of using publicity would be better for both parts.

Earlybird


Joined: 28/04/2009
Posts: 816

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 19:20

Re mes 27, Chef99, newcomer, please don't presume I have done nothing! My point is surely everyone should join together and support each other as I have done.

Mandy


Joined: 25/10/2009
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
24/08/2011 19:53

I understand the BRS are stomping up hard cash to help K5 in their legal battle,



Now that is proper, concrete help!



If they are going to start being actively involved in the fray, I'll become a member

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
25/08/2011 08:03

The MNCBM is now an NGO.



The Make Cyprus Better Movement is now a Non Governmental Organisation.

Earlybird


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Posts: 816

Message Posted:
25/08/2011 08:54

What is the significance of this? Does this mean the government accepts it?

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
25/08/2011 09:51

I dont see how the govt. could ignore them but no, it gives no more recognition than their title does, we all recognise they are a campaigning group, campaigning to make this a fairer, just society.



I respect their aims, with or without the NGO title.



It means they are a Non Governmental Organisation as opposed to a Governmental Organisation.

Earlybird


Joined: 28/04/2009
Posts: 816

Message Posted:
25/08/2011 10:05

Then I don't quite see the need for the title, perhaps it is to show us they are more organised. I thought NGO's were just there to provide information. I may be wrong?

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
25/08/2011 10:07

The question I googled was 'can any organisation adopt the title NGO - I was looking for Yes/No but the answer I choose and decided to print out gave me 18 pages of text.



I think the short answer would be Yes, however to qualify for funding would be another matter.

Earlybird


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Posts: 816

Message Posted:
25/08/2011 10:11

Thanks misunderstood, just wondering!