BOYUT HOUSEHOLDERS now need to take action

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 12:25

I have been a believer in Boyuts lies and I apologise to other members as I was duped by Harriette, Boyut also duped Naomi into beleiving a deal had been et in November 2009 for my site. Boyut is different from K5 as the Mortgage is in Firhats name I insisted when buying my Villa that I had proof that it was not on GC Land and Boyut had indeed bought the land, the Kocan is in Firhats name.



For past 3 years everytime I contact Harriette and I do very regularly I am told Firhat is either at the Bank Owners or just returned and they will tell me later......well never had any update in 3 years!!



Are we going to be in same position of K5 and wait to see whats happening, I think the Banks are stalling as it will leave them in a win win situation.

I hope that someone on the BRS reads this and can enlighten on whats happening with Government Negotiations on the 8 Point Plan.



I have had my head under the parapet for too long and are interested in anyone connected with Boyut to hear

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 13:01

The K5 outcome, in particular the judge giving one of the reasons for allowing eviction as the residents not acting sooner and the time frame, should make those with mortgages and memorandums or those without deeds, take action as soon as possible.



Unfortunately most have put not having their deeds down to "The Cyprus Way" and have been happy to simply live in their properties without legal ownership. They also listen to advocates and builders who dismiss this issue too lightly.



Will the outcome of the K5 make more buyers adhere to the "no deeds, no money" advice now?

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 13:17

Bradus,



You keep rattling on about not having deeds but please tell me how you get them? Over 5 years now and still no parcellisation never mind deeds, I have been told that if we make too much noise about this, it will have an adverse effect and the developer will only dig their heels in further. Yes we are worried in light of the current situation but there doesn't seem much we can do about it, we seem to be stuck between a rock and a hard place.





The butlers wife

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 13:24

The butlers Wife, many of us are in this situation, and are helpless. People don't seem to realise how stressful and worrying this can be, its like constantly taking two steps forward then three back, a constant nightmare situation that is never far from ones mind.



Vicki

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 13:52

The butlers Wife,



It's "Blackmail" (If you make too much noise the Developer will dig his heels in)!!!!



You have bought and paid for your property I assume! why does the Developer Blackmail you, perhaps he's awaiting the outcome of the K5 saga



You should be worried, it's becoming more and more apparent, that the TRNC is full of Blackmailers! sitting back and being quiet so as not to upset them won't get anyone anywhere, except a spiral of more Blackmail for anyone daft enough to become yet another victim!



Vicki, helplessness is what we have all felt whatever our problems are with the TRNC! for me it's been no steps forward for nearly 8 years!

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 13:58

Butler,



I do keep rattling on about not having deeds, not to annoy you but to make people aware that they run the risk of memorandums being placed on their properties whilst ever ownership is with the builder or land owner. There is now the additional worry of sitting back and doing nothing which as seen in the K5 case has allowed the judge to dismiss the case for failure to act sooner.



No one is saying its easy to get your deeds, the rewards for keeping them are too great for the builder, but people have to stop listening to the excuses given by the builder and some advocates and start to take legal action for breach of contract. I ask five years now and yet you state that if you make too much noise it would have an adverse effect? Well doing nothing does not appear to have been successful does it? You do not have legal ownership now so what have you got to lose?



At the end of the day it is up to the individual to act as they see fit. If you are happy to just sit back and ke

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 14:04

keep your head down hoping that the builder will do the right thing then that is your choice.However you must also face the consequences of doing nothing.



Are you and others on your site forming any sort of pressure group? Can you arrange parcelisation yourselves? Have you found out if parcelisation has even been arranged? Can you set a time-frame and agree with the developer that this be done by a certain date?

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 14:44

Bradus, You cannot win, we (Villa owners) took the land owner to Court for breach of contract as the Mortgage was placed after we had signed contracts in 2005.... A year later the Bank suddenly produced a document saying that the Mortgage had been placed in 1998!

While we are taking three steps back 'they' are taking three forward!

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 14:51

Sorry to hear this britvic. You are faced with corruption rather than a reluctance to hand over deeds, which is a different scenario altogether. However I still maintain more and more people should be aware or even admit to the fact that this situation is becoming more and more prevalent in the TRNC and the Government allows it to happen.

Your case is evidence of widespread corruption.



Some may thing I keep rattling on about these issues but it is only because of my desire to protect future victims.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 15:06

Bradus,



Please continue to rattle on! If you only save one person from going through the heartache so many are suffering!

Bikerboy



Joined: 10/09/2009
Posts: 111

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 15:27

Why don't people go to firats new business venture in ozankoy called the corner bar? He is there with harriette most nights!

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 15:30

Message 11, ????

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 15:36

I think mess 11 is to do with Boyut and message 1!

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 15:44

LOL, I thought he had got the wrong thread and was advertising a bar. ang1706, maybe you should do what message 11 suggests?

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 18:12

Doing nothing is not an Option. For years they have relied on the British attitude of "not wanting to make a fuss" Well, as a result of the latest K5 judgement I think it time the people who have been badly bitten bite back.......and hard. Unfortunately the BRS take such a softly, softly attitude in the past, but it gets you absolutely no-where. The Government, builders, lawyers must all get together, stick their feet up on their desks and laugh their heads off, saying to themselves "Oh, those ex-pats won't do anything, their too afraid"



Those people who I hear droning on about "well, we're guest in their country, so we should obey by their rules" I have two points: Guests should be treated with respect and kindness and the other is - there are no rules.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 18:35

I'm actualy one of the 'I'm allright jack' ones,but if I can be of any help(being Cypriot and all that),count me in.



The matter has to be treated as ONE,and not just any particular builder or site.



Until few of you had been thrown in prison or kicked out of country for breaking silence you'll achieve nothing.

Time to SHOUT...........Ismet abi had tried the legal way.............and achieved what?

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 18:44

That's very kind of you to offer yorgozlu.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 19:07

Msg 16, very true

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 20:39

I thank Bradus, Tango1 and Yorgozola for their positive input and advice.



Yes , I did not know that Firhat had the Corner Bar in Ozankoy, I know he also has an Aluminium/PVC business. I am aghast that this man owes the Bank money and is allowed to set up NEW BUSINESS'S.

He also had another Restaurant in Kyrenia, but will not name it as the owners are very honourable people and do alot in support of EXPATS.



I have amazingly received a reply from the Turkish Ambassadors Office here in Beirut,(only sent an email on Friday) where he will discuss the distressing information that I have sent him after the Bayram, his office also state they have passed the email to their Foriegn Office in Ankara, so maybe that may bear some fruit!!



I can only reiterate that even those who are in houses theu think are safe had better go and check things out. If reputable builders keep getting queries about their properties maybe the whell might turn there on the others and force a clean up from withi

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 23:08

Why do ex-pats support the restaurant ?



surely a boycott would speak volumes

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 23:54

Angus are you or the others in contact with each other as yet ?







Spider,X

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 00:02

Hi Spider, good question as they will all need to have a united front. Philbailey, I know of a couple of people who will not now be frequenting this particular bar.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 10:12

Is the site your talking about boyut, costal road opposite the night club Karsiyaka?

ricooper123


Joined: 14/04/2009
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 10:25

I am one of the Boyut victims,and it will be a waste of time thinking the government will help,when they owe

the Near East Bank 30,000000TL.This is the same bank that gave Firat the loan on the land for Harmony1 site.

Any other Boyut victims who would like to unite to fight our cause please free to email me at

ricooper123@yahoo.co.uk



Richard.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 13:12

Any idea on how many Boyut victims there might be ? Stick together and get him to the courts with the bank asp.My guess is its the only way to find out the the full picture ! Good luck.











Spider,X

Chef99


Joined: 21/08/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 14:03

advocates now want 1k up front and 3.5% of propert value to take contract defaulters to court.

Chef99


Joined: 21/08/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 14:04

advocates now want 1k up front and 3.5% of property value to take contract defaulters to court.

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 14:24

Thanks Chef99, how do you know this as i was quoted last friday £1500 up front.



What value of property, the Contract value or the VAT Value with the extras added!



Interested to know

ricooper123


Joined: 14/04/2009
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 14:43

You would be wasting you time and money taking Firat to court,as all his new assets are in his wifes name,and he works for her.......................what a joke.

And even if you won your case how many people have actually received any payment.



Richard.

Chef99


Joined: 21/08/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 14:52

Message 28 this was quoted last Tuesday by a girne based advocate property value 80 k to my neighbours not sure if + vat and disbursements as I am not joining in .

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 15:21

The Advocates usually want £1500 + £500 for Court costs up front, then 3 - 5% of the contract price on completion.

Apparently this is standard.

hadenough


Joined: 14/08/2011
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 20:52

Hi All,



welcome to the list of similar problems how many more are there or are they still keeping their head's in the sand