Well done....United Nations

theparson


Joined: 28/05/2011
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Message Posted:
28/08/2011 13:50

Reading Saturdays Cyprus Today (page 7), I noticed that the United Nations rescued a flock of about 100 sheep which had crossed the border (North to South) and returned them to their rightful owner.



Is this their first success since being formed in 1945, or have I missed something ?

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 14:02

It's because they can communicate well! They speak the same language

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 17:01

They were only returned because they didn't have the correct paperwork and no insurance !

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 18:36

That's what UN peace keeping is all about. Sorry I meant to say sheep keeping.

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
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Message Posted:
28/08/2011 20:27

A short spell of service in the UN with a gun but no bullets, orders not to be able to retaliate against any type of aggression and getting the sh*t end of the stick from both sides as well as from their leaders would let you understand why "sheep rescue" is much more preferable and rewarding than saving civvies winging when they get themselves in trouble.



Of course that is only my opinion after all. Sleep safe people, there is always somebody out there with their eyes open looking after you.

Happy Hussar


Joined: 01/10/2008
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 21:04

A large chunk of the UNFICYP ( UN Troops in Cyprus) at present hail from Argentina, they are excellent soldiers and rugby players! they are also good at rounding up sheep!!

Tony

denizen



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Message Posted:
28/08/2011 22:08

A large chunk of the UNFICYP ( UN Troops in Cyprus) at present hail from Argentina, they are excellent soldiers and rugby players! they are also good at rounding up sheep!!



Tony



don't believe that bit about the sheep

jamboree


Joined: 25/06/2011
Posts: 88

Message Posted:
28/08/2011 23:48

all the millions spent on the un in cyprus and the only good news is about sheep. its a bloody joke.

it just goes to show how useful they realy are here..



the amount of monies spent on the un over the years untill now, could have been spent compensating the loss of properties and land for both turkish cypriots, and greek cypriots, and have plenty of money left over



the un has had the best paid holiday since they have been deployed here in cyprus.



if anything was to happen they would take a step back anyway.

someone please correct me if i am wrong?

BizziLizzi


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 855

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 00:18

Please do not confuse the sometimes silly decisions of the mandarins of the UN with the lot of the soldier on the ground. Cyprus is only a tour of duty among others and the people now here may have served and have to serve again in currently, repeat currently, other more dangerous places. And we were glad enough of them here in 1963



As for the sheep, the loss of 100 may be no joke to a man whose livelihood depends on them, and this is just the sort of incident which could escalate and cause trouble. Wars have started for less!



Well done the UN for showing they are human and understand the problems of ordinary people, and for preventing what could at the least been an unpleasant border incident.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 00:19

And their resolutions mean nothing

blade


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Message Posted:
29/08/2011 10:07

I had some dealings with the SBA crossing recently, i found them very helpful and polite at all times. They are only doing a job so why give them such a hard time?

grahamsteptoe


Joined: 22/10/2010
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Message Posted:
29/08/2011 10:25

Re. Message 8 Jamboree

'the un has had the best paid holiday since they have been deployed here in cyprus.

if anything was to happen they would take a step back anyway.'



What a load of absolute bulls..t!! They were needed in '74 and did their job.



I made a very good friend with a Danish soldier who served with the UN on the Island for 2 years in the late 1980's. Lovely guy and lovely wife and 2 children (then aged 6 & 8) who came out to visit him on a couple of occasions during his stay here. A year after he left the Island he was deployed with the UN in Lebanon and was killed by a bomb in the South of Lebanon whilst trying to defend innocent civilians. He didn't 'step back' but I suppose, Jamboree, you probably think he should have 'holidayed' somewhere else. Moron!!

jamboree


Joined: 25/06/2011
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Message Posted:
29/08/2011 17:03

un are soldiers it is there profession and any thing can happen. a death is a death sorry for him. but these un soldiers are just pawns in a larger game....they go where they are told...



but still the un are posted out here they holiday here now today.

this is my view and i stand by it may you like it or not.



here is a site to look at if you would like facts on un failures then have a look at this http://www.4forums.com/political/government-debates/396-long-list-u-n-failures.html

as i think talk is cheap sometimes.



moron? getting personal gets you no where have some manners. if you cant have a discussion with out getting angry then getting personal then dont post or read forums. you and have a good day*

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
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Message Posted:
29/08/2011 17:25

National governments set the rules of engagement for their forces serving with the UN. Don't blame the UN or the soldiers, it's the bl**dy politicians again !

Look what happened in Kosovo. The Dutch soldiers were instructed by their government not to protect and resist but to hand over the Muslim men and boys who were massacred. 8,000 of them.

theparson


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 19:08

This is a good discussion platform....so message 12, try debate not abuse.

I agree its not the grunts fault though the top dogs of the UN do seem to come off pretty well.

From memory (and not checking my facts) was there not a child sex ring a few years ago run by the U.N ?

As I say please correct me if I am wrong.

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 20:00

Wow, that sounds just wrong on all levels ?

dublinderm


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Message Posted:
29/08/2011 20:12

Re Msg 15.



A number of Canadian servicemen where subject to Court Martial for organising a child sex ring while serving with the UN in Somalia.



Some Irish were also accused of setting up a brothel in Somalia but the case collapsed due to lack of evidence.



DD

theparson


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 21:15

Thanks for the info dublinderm.....just googled the subject and its so much worse than I thought.

According to The Independant (Jan 2007) there are 200 plus allegations ranging from sex with minors, jobs for sex, prostitution and rape. Though there have been no prosecutions, there have been a lot of staff have lost their jobs etc.

If I knew how to attach a link I would.....just type in UN sex scandal to google and see for yourself.

Bradus


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Message Posted:
29/08/2011 21:24

Anyone seen the film, The Whistle Blower? Based on a true story. A police woman who exposes the trafficking of young girls in Bosnia. UN attempted to do a massive cover up and was highly implicated especially the high ranks of the UN.



A real eye-opener.

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 21:42

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/un-shame-over-sex-scandal-431121.html

Happy Hussar


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Message Posted:
29/08/2011 21:55

So were the sheep very young and were they 'kidnapped' by the UN in the first place!

jamboree


Joined: 25/06/2011
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Message Posted:
30/08/2011 00:55

the story from the bbc link is here, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/7420798.stm

jamboree


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Message Posted:
30/08/2011 00:57

or this one. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6226829.stm

jamboree


Joined: 25/06/2011
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Message Posted:
30/08/2011 01:27

there is lots of failure storys of the un, there are so many quick to defend the un at a blink. like i said before un soldiers are just doing a job and they are pawns in a larger game, which are controlled by the big boys to there self gain and glory.



but i would like to hear some success storys and not about sheep. are there any? please list some so i can be educated..

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
30/08/2011 06:26

Jamboree, it is plain you are very interested in the UN, sex and waste of money. Three very high ideals indeed.

It is sad that you are only able to find failures with the UN, story's that do them damage and proof that the UN costs money to run.



I note you can find information via your search facility in your browser and that you have asked to be educated.



Try putting this: un successes and failures into the search line in your browser and then read the results yourself.



Note I included failures in the search as well as successes and did not limit myself to just failures. You have fixated on the military element of the UN alone - look deeper into why the UN as a whole body costs so much to run and do not forget that if they leave Cyprus there will be lots of TC and GC local employed UN personnel out of a job.

jamboree


Joined: 25/06/2011
Posts: 88

Message Posted:
30/08/2011 20:18

hello waddo you are in defence of the un and the work they do.

ok



do you think i have not done a search on google. i can read and i have read plenty



which you must have done also.



more failures than successes come up and you know it. unless you know some great things they have done, evry one keeps knocking me for my views, but cant give me any examples of the great successes of the un.



you are in there defence so you should give me some points of successes of the un. not just if they leave cyprus there will be lot of tc and gc out of work. please give me an example etc like the one i have given.



example: if the un did leave cyprus then this would be a success story, because they would have made peace between gc and tc and the island would be one again.

theparson


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
30/08/2011 20:41

OK we have all looked at Google, (I feel guilty for starting that idea) now what would be the pros\cons of the U.N actually leaving Cyprus

Possible examples.............

Pro....it would give both Communities a chance to see if they can live together without trouble.

Con...Local jobs lost as employer pulls out of the Island.



Any other ideas ?

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
30/08/2011 20:42

nice easy job