Sad Outcome of the recent Hunting

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
02/09/2011 08:11

We have always had two beautiful doves sitting on the wires in front of our house, they used to come down and drink from our Pool, and 'cooed' quietly all day. Since Wednesday we have neither seen or heard them. Obviously blasted out of the sky by some trigger happy hunter. Perhaps someone can tell me what satisfaction they get from killing such lovely creatures and please don't tell me it is a 'sport'. Yes I know it goes on in the UK, and I don't understand that either.

philnles


Joined: 11/08/2008
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
02/09/2011 11:10

We used to have a couple pf pidgeons up here in Baspinar, cooing, now we have scores of the vermin, shi**ing all over the place, please send the hunters up here.

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
02/09/2011 11:20

Msg 2



A bit like the hordes of filthy humans that leave all their litter on the beaches and all over the countryside eh?

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
02/09/2011 12:13

Sad, I agree, but the idiots even shoot sparrows!

keldanreb


Joined: 17/09/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
02/09/2011 12:33

i think trnc gov has to look at this situation.

we have to look at making trnc a bird sanctuary.can u image the tourists,twitchers from all the world saying trnc is the place to go.its like a floating wild bird paradise here.

shooting these birds is like genocide.

they stop off from everywhere around the world.

we need to have more ranges and clay areas,where the boys can blast.

competions...etc,anything to stop people shooting birds.

philnles


Joined: 11/08/2008
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
02/09/2011 13:10

Message 2. What has shooting vermin got to do with humans leaving rubbish on beaches?

Are you aware of the diseases that pigeons carry and spread in there droppings? They breed upto 6 times a year and we now have scores up here.

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
02/09/2011 13:17

I straddle the fence here because I do feel that pidgeons are nothing but flying rats and should be got rid of in as humane a way as possible. However, Turtle Doves are a different matter altogether and it's legal to kill them (I understand) during this last bayram. For Gods why????? The vast majority of the people who come up our road towards the lower slopes of the mountains couldn't hit a barn door at ten paces. They just come to play with their boys toys and leave half dead animals and birds as a result. Some bring "hunting dogs" with them. The dogs are not trained, are gun shy, don't do as required and are then abandoned. That's where huge numbers of "hunting dogs" roaming the streets looking for food, start off....half way up a mountain.

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
02/09/2011 13:48

As I said in my original posting, they were doves not pigeons, very pretty, quite tame and as far as I can see didn't s**t anywhere!

philnles


Joined: 11/08/2008
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
02/09/2011 14:16

I like the thought of toilet trained doves !!

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
03/09/2011

Msg.8 - that was my point as well - I think they are actually allowed to kill Doves at certain times of the year - it beggars belief doesn't it. If you go further up the tracks above Ilgas, you will probably come across nets in the trees and there is a certain cafe owner in Alsancak who has sticky tape in a tree which sparrows get stuck on. (At least he did until fairly recently, but he might have taken the stuff down after people complained)

keldanreb


Joined: 17/09/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
03/09/2011 01:15

kill,kill,kill,killlllllllllllllllllllllll,and kill again,not good is it.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
03/09/2011 08:08

The hunting federation allows the hunting of birds such as doves and pigeons on six days. They are working to police the hunters having appointed 21 wardens/bailiffs to monitor the hunters and have prosecuted and confiscated weapons of anyone found hunting in prohibited areas, over hunting (there is a limit of the numbers of each breed) or shooting the wrong type of game.

Nature lovers tend to abhor hunting in general terms but unless you refuse meat I think it slightly hypocritical to criticise those who hunt for the table in the ancient tradition.

The federation are in consultation with wildlife preservation bodies to put their house in order. They are attempting to identify areas suitable for hunting with reduced impact on overall birds populations etc.

Hunting is part of the Cypriot culture and we have to be mindful that only they will decide what to do.

MartinM


Joined: 03/10/2009
Posts: 166

Message Posted:
03/09/2011 09:03

What. Groucho says is quite true, however there is still the possibility of ILLEGAL hunting.



Shooting within 500metres of a dwelling or within 500 metres of a dam or reservoir are illegal actions.



Using nets or sticky lime sticks to trap birds are illegal actions.





Whilst I do not suggest confronting any hunter I would ask all to



1 Report it to us at info@kuskor.org with ILLEGAL HUNTING as the subject line.

2 Report it to the police

3 Call me on 0533 860 1170( Not too early on a Sunday please )



Clearly the more details we have the better. Photographs better still. Whilst we do not guarantee to eradicate illegal hunting 100% we would like to do as much as we can. We will bring all reports to the attention of the Hunting Federation, The Police and the newly appointed wardens/baliffs.

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
03/09/2011 09:19

This hunting culture is throughout the Med. France, Spain Malta, Turkey, Italy etc. all pursue quarry in much the same fashion. I remember Sunday lunch in a bar in Bruzzano near Milan when the hunters came in showing off the blackbirds and robins they had shot. Totally strange for me but IT IS THEIR CULTURE. We may not approve (and I do not) but it ill behoves us to come to their country and tell them how to live. But I was born and bred in the country and do not feel so strongly as some.

I am sure Cypriots feel the same about aspects of our culture - the way we raise our children (the recent riots), the way we dump old folk into homes for example - strange for them but normal for us.

Doves may look pretty but they are essentially the same as pigeons and do carry some very nasty diseases which is why they are fairly called 'flying rats'. Remember Fred Dibnah the steeplejack - he nearly died from touching pigeon poo. How many would complain if these hunters were killing rats?

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
03/09/2011 10:34

Msg.14 I know this off topic but I have to draw your attention to the fact the old people are "dumped" here as well. Lapta Old Peoples Homes is one place they are put. They need help all the time, but there is no charity designated to them.

Mitch68


Joined: 19/04/2011
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
03/09/2011 10:55

I agree with Groucho in that unless you refuse meat you cannot criticise those who hunt for the table.



I would much rather hunt and eat a game animal than buy factory reared chicken off the supermarket shelf that has never seen daylight and sat all it's short life in it's own excrement.



I do think however that there is a special place in Hell for trophy hunters and those who kill for a thrill.

keldanreb


Joined: 17/09/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
03/09/2011 11:12

our culture,british was bear baiting.dog fighting,cock fighting,badger baiting and of course fox hunting.all are now banned.trnc has to put a temp ban on shooting wild birds,just until we can feel it out.!

funny but in england you can shoot pigeons,crows,magpies,rats and the latest enemy parakeets.

so i suppose clean your own house first.

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
03/09/2011 12:27

keldanreb - you forgot doves. They are not protected (other than the turtle dove) and there is no season on doves in the UK. Here they can be shot only 6 days in the year.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
03/09/2011 22:54

As Martin says, yes we all have a part to play.

If you hear gun shots on a non-hunting day, report it.

If you suspect under-age hunters, report it.

If you see lime sticks and/or 'mist' nets, report it.

If hunting is going on within 500 metres of housing or open water/reservoirs, report it.

If you observe hunting in a protected area, report it.. why not make it your business to find out if the area in which you live and go walking is a permitted zone. Then you will know you are not wasting your time in reporting hunters for this.



1 Report it to KUSKOR the North Cyprus society for the Protection of birds and Nature by emailing info@kuskor.org with ILLEGAL HUNTING as the subject line.

2 Report it to the police, your local police and if necessary their HQ (let them know you are reporting centrally too and they might just take it more seriously)

3 Call Martin 0533 860 1170 (as he says, not too early on a Sunday please)