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misunderstood

Joined: 08/04/2011 Posts: 1004
Message Posted: 02/09/2011 08:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 27 in Discussion |
| I did not attend last night as I felt the ticket price was too high. I understand that a good time was had by all although I have had a complaint about the main course. Steam Machine were unable to perfom due to ill health and Bobby Sands stepped in at short notice. I am told Al August was brilliant. A cheque was presented to Bob French for 2850TL by Stephen Day of the BRS and I assume this was the much publicised £1000 BRS in Saturday's Cyprus Today. Stephen Day also conducted the auction and I am told he was 'on form'. I am told the attendance was in the region of 150 people, I am also told Simena charged 30Tl per head for the food plus the first local drink. I know the original entertainment were giving their services f.o.c. Nice earner for K5. I shall not take any money from the charitable donations and proceeds from events. Any rumours that I am no longer part of the Kulaksiz 5 -v-Akfinans Bank Limited case are entirely untrue. |
Bertie

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 08:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 27 in Discussion |
| It was an excellent evening well done K5 |
Mitch68

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 08:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 27 in Discussion |
| You missed a great night Pauline, well worth 50TL. Food could have been better, but the entertainment more than made up for it. Stringfellows played great set while the meal was served, Al August jnr was top quality and Booby Sands got everyone up and dancing until the end. Great to know we were all helping the K5 group and such a worthy cause. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 10:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 27 in Discussion |
| Perhaps you live in a better income bracket than me Mitch68, 100Tl for two of us plus drinks and all the other things would have depleted our budget for this month. All in all though I am glad everyone had such a good time. Although I personally think 35 Tl would have been a more affordable price. Just my opinion. |
Mitch68

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 11:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 27 in Discussion |
| As a one off occasion for a very worthy cause, it was a good night out. Income bracket has nothing to do with it. 50TL (still less than £20 ) for me rates as a good deal based on entertainment alone. We have to look at what the fundraiser was for aswell, or don't you think people should support the K5 fighting fund? It's all relative really- I don't drink, I don't smoke, I rarely go out in the evening, and I prefer that any surplus cash goes to worthwhile causes and charities. Just my opinion. |
magicart

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 12:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 27 in Discussion |
| Well done everyone-a great result. Art |
Trotsky

Joined: 30/08/2011 Posts: 51
Message Posted: 02/09/2011 12:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 27 in Discussion |
| Al August top class performer he was tremendous bob got many people up dancing with tunes that every one knew I know the K5 people appreciated the support that was there and their cash, Bob French was going round thanking people . Well one Mr.Day a great job as auctioneer . |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 12:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 27 in Discussion |
| Mitch68 you seem to forget that I am the one that had to move out of K5 for health reasons and fund another home, so no I do not have spare cash. The Bank used my having to move as an excuse to confiscate my home. I dont smoke and drink in moderation. I am happy you are able to afford it and whatever comes out of for K5, I am sure they will use it wisely. I wish them well and since I do not have to fund the eviction hearings, I am sure that my not taking anything from the fund will assist them greatly. I have almost completed my payments to Boysan, so I have no need of financial help on that score. We all have different priorities. |
mamachina

Joined: 22/11/2008 Posts: 730
Message Posted: 02/09/2011 12:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 27 in Discussion |
| re message 1 - I was under the impression all monies were to go to the lawyers fighting fund, to help pay costs re the evictions - so why would anyone expect you to be taking money anyway? |
Mitch68

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 12:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 27 in Discussion |
| I think that by saying that she is not taking any of the money raised, but that she is still part of the court case, she means she will pay her share of legal expenses out of her own pocket, not from the ring fenced fundraising proceeds which exclusively pay for legal fees. That's how I read it anyway. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 13:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 27 in Discussion |
| Strangely mamachina, it was never explained to me that the fund raising was exclusively for the use of fighting the eviction legal cases I was led to believe it was all the legal cases, since I do not intend to receive any of the money to fund my legal fees you can relax. Bob and Jan, Arlene via her son, Marion and Dave. Brian and Margaret and Phil and Mike have received eviction writs so far which will need fighting in court. Ant and Irene, Rachelle who are UK based have not, yet.. Eva McCluskey had her villa illegally reposssed as did I. If the Bank had acted within the law, both Eva and I would have received eviction writs too. Mitch68 is absolutley right, the money raised by the events and donations is ring fenced to exclusively pay legal fees, this would have included me too, I choose to pay my own, not because I am any better off than any of the other victims but because I want to. Different folks, different strokes. |
cassius

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 19:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 27 in Discussion |
| misunderstood, you sound like sour grapes to me, so sad |
philbailey

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 20:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 27 in Discussion |
| When is the next court case ? |
augustal

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 20:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 27 in Discussion |
| Thank you for all the earlier pleasing comments in regards to my performance at last night’s venue, I appreciate them all. Also thanks to Bobby Sands and the lads from the folk Band and also the organisers...... Kind Regards .. Al August Jnr. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 21:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 27 in Discussion |
| If staying away from an event because I couldn't afford to go is sour grapes keith, so be it. Sorry you felt the need to say something, so sad. Strange how some people revel in other's misfortunes. I can not afford a lot of things I used to be able to keith, does that make you feel good too. I am not too proud to admit it. philbailey, dont know yet, Bayram in between, wil let you know when I know. |
cassius

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Message Posted: 02/09/2011 23:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 27 in Discussion |
| nothing to do with you not being able to afford it but a lot to do with your negative comments, albeit obtained by secondhand info. |
Marion

Joined: 06/03/2011 Posts: 1816
Message Posted: 02/09/2011 23:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 27 in Discussion |
| Why oh why do good events have to end up with a touch of sour grapes? the fight for the K5 folk is bad enough without any other nasty tastes in anyone's mouths. Me - well I side with Misunderstood, and for two reasonsd. 1. We can't afford it, and 2. it is not our kind of entertainment. I was at the Opera Night anyway, and that was 20tl per head (yes, no grub) but it took me back to many, many happy days of years ago at the Royal albert Hall as a Promenader, so was terrific value, even if the evening reminded me of many people I have loved and are now dead. O.K. that is nothing to do with it, but the point i am trying to make is that we all have our reasons for going out and/or staying at home, and what is cheap to one person is unaffordable and even unnatractive to others. What I feel IS important is that the K5 victims feel supported. And you can't put a price on that. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 03/09/2011 07:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 27 in Discussion |
| Thanks Marion, I did support the previous one at 25 TL per head with Simena donating 5 TL to the fund from that. The food then was excellent. The entertainement was outstanding from the Liverpool guests, also given free of charge. The raffle auction and Irish bingo was a hoot. £1000 was raised for the fund. I thought it a phenominal amount and an excellent night. Perhaps it is me, but I was happy with that. Twice the price was just beyond our budget. 25TL to 50TL in one fell swoop was just beyond us. Of course I wish K5 well, how could I not and any event 35 TL or under will be attended. |
Mitch68

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Message Posted: 03/09/2011 08:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 27 in Discussion |
| But Marion, misunderstood did start this post with sour grapes, with second hand and partly inaccurate information. (old journalist motto: never let the facts get in the way of a good story). She did't think it was an event worth supporting and seems miffed by it's success Why did she start a thread with that tone rather than just saying congrats? Yes misunderstood, the Liverpool guests at Simena (led by relatives of one of the K5) were extremely generous but anyone involved in fundraising will tell you that sort of generosity it extremely rare ( only a few locals were there) so there is no need to run down the efforts of others. I really don't see how the difference between 35tl and 50tl (15 tl or £6 ish) merits harping on & on about. Just say "well done", and leave it be. |
Geejay

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Message Posted: 03/09/2011 12:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 27 in Discussion |
| Mitch68....Well said. This thread was deliberately started with a negative tone regarding the K5 group, and it's legal fight, a group to which this poster no longer belongs. This is a mischievous comment full of negativity from someone who has lost her goodwill and seems to bear a grudge of some kind. The cost of the occassion and non-attendance is not in issue. Just my opinion. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 03/09/2011 19:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 27 in Discussion |
| Just to confirm that I may not be part of the group as far as the internal arangements are concerned i.e meeting etc but I remain a Petitioner in the same case(s) I reported what I was told by some who did attend, Mitch even you said the food could have been better, if that offended anyone, then I apologise. I have nothing but sympathy for all those facing eviction having had my own property taken and that includes everyone in the mortgage queue too. Pity the Doc Martens weren't still available. |
optimist42

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Message Posted: 03/09/2011 19:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 27 in Discussion |
| Oh, is it possible that she is being so negative because she is no longer in the K5 group any more? |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 03/09/2011 20:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 27 in Discussion |
| Robert, my choice, since I do not live nearby it made no sense staying in it. No need to be negative about that, same case(s) as far as that is concerned we all win or lose together. accept of course in company with Eva Mcluskey, we have lost our villas already. Not being in the group, but being in the case changes nothing. IN fact Robert I am feeling very positive about the future, I truly believe the ECHR will do the right thing by everyone, K5 and all other victims. Turkey will end up paying as they are named on our Petition being a signatory and recogniising the ECHR. Just a pity if it has to go that far. |
Mitch68

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Message Posted: 03/09/2011 20:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 27 in Discussion |
| Misunderstood message21 You reported inaccurate information about an event that you did not attend in a negative tone for no reason. That could offend some who had put effort in creating a very successful evening, so you are right - you should apologise. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 03/09/2011 21:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 27 in Discussion |
| Perhaps Amanda you would like to tell me what the inaccuracies were, although I clearly did already apologise Did Steam Machine perform then. Was the food good, obviously you werne't impressed 'food could have been better' Bobby Sands performed, I made no comment one way or the other and my source didnt comment either. Al August was brilliant I am told and reported as such Did Stephen Day not present a cheque to Bob French, did I get the amount wrong? Was I wrong about the auctioneer who I was told was on form (a compliment) The estimate of attendees could have been off, but how is that offensive.? I was told by the person who organised the food with Simena that they were charging 30TL to include the first drink, a member of Kulaksiz 5 - so horse mouth on that one. My opinion that 50Tl was too expensive, an opinion shared by two members of K5, doubling up on the last 'do's price. I was also told by a member of K5 that the original entertainers were perfoming for free. |
Mitch68

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Message Posted: 03/09/2011 21:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 27 in Discussion |
| Pauline. Once again. You did not attend. All your information at the best is secondhand. You weren't there so your opinion on the evening and the ticket price is irrelevant. Sorry you couldn't just post saying that you'd heard that it was a good night for K5, you're always with the negatives. |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 03/09/2011 22:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 27 in Discussion |
| You do not know me, I do not know you, I posed the questions, you chose to ignore them. Fine, I guess they were not incorrect then. If thinking somethng is too expensive is negative then so be it. Just another opinion of someone you do not know. I wasn't there Amanda because of my opinion of the price of the tickets so it is relative. Goodnight Amanda sleep well. |
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