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Hamish

Joined: 19/01/2011 Posts: 128
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 11:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 25 in Discussion |
| Members of the Public who walk dogs on the tracks leading to the mountains on either side of the ravine to the south of St Tropez restaurant in Alsancak should be aware, and on the alert, that 10 full plastic bags of poison [wheat-grain-like in appearance] were found recently on the side of the eastern 'road'. The label reads: "Contains BROMADIOLONE a potent rodenticide, second generation 4-Hydroxycaumarin derivative, often called a super warfarin. Added potency and a tendency to accumulate in the liver of the poisoned organism. Used to kill rats and mice. Can be absorbed through digestion through the lungs (breathed in) or on skin contact. Vitamin K is the antidote." Should you find any packets do not risk touching them with bare hands ... please use a piece of plastic rubbish left on the roadside to hold them ... and then scrub your hands extremely well afterwards. As a result of coming into contact with this 2 dogs were poisoned - 1 died and 1 survived. PLEASE BE CAREFUL. |
hilmi

Joined: 27/02/2008 Posts: 62
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 14:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 25 in Discussion |
| back to the top |
Tango1

Joined: 19/02/2011 Posts: 1151
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 15:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 25 in Discussion |
| Back to the top please. Maybe a sticky for a little while Mods? Tango1 |
Hamish

Joined: 19/01/2011 Posts: 128
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 15:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 25 in Discussion |
| Please keep this at the top - it is a very very nasty "super" poison. It will cause problems if it comes into contact with human skin - let alone if ingested by animals (or even worse - adults/child). |
Whistler

Joined: 28/07/2008 Posts: 1332
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 16:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 25 in Discussion |
| When is this all going to stop!!!!! NEVER I think. |
padisha

Joined: 09/07/2011 Posts: 131
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 16:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 25 in Discussion |
| How many of us would like to have a 'word' with these heroes who do such inhuman things? Would be happy to give them a taste of their own medicine. |
BizziLizzi

Joined: 02/08/2011 Posts: 855
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 17:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 25 in Discussion |
| Saw the report in the paper. Horrified! Its a pity this wasnt found by a tourist -one with the sense not to touch it of course! I dont mean any harm just that a complaint by someone bringing income might have more force with the authorities. |
Whistler

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Message Posted: 14/09/2011 17:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 25 in Discussion |
| padisha. I`ll hold them down for you. |
spider

Joined: 03/01/2009 Posts: 5527
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 18:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 25 in Discussion |
| Hamish have you reported this to anyone ? Sounds like it needs to get picked up by the bin men or some other department ASP. Spider,X |
Tango1

Joined: 19/02/2011 Posts: 1151
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 19:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 25 in Discussion |
| No spider I don't think letting the bin men pick it up from the office is a very good idea at all, sorry. They'll more than likely use around some of the bins they empty to keep rats away. Believe me I handled the stuff and bin men are not to ones to deal with it. I'm sure the office will dispose of it in the correct and safe manner. What needs to be ascertained is, who put it there and where did they obtain it? |
jenfarrall

Joined: 21/09/2008 Posts: 297
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 20:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 25 in Discussion |
| BTT please |
BizziLizzi

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Message Posted: 14/09/2011 20:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 25 in Discussion |
| Would the Environmental Health people be the ones to report it to , and to dispose of the poison. 10 bags of the stuff is a very serious hazzard for humans as well as animals - (although it may ultimately have been intended to be split up for animal poison) it sounds as if it was dumped for some reason and I think in these circumstance the Police might be more interested than usual. |
HildySmith

Joined: 02/07/2009 Posts: 1708
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 20:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 25 in Discussion |
| Has a 'formal' report been made to the authorities. Often nothing is done if they have not 'received' a formal 'complaint/report'. |
rosylee

Joined: 22/07/2010 Posts: 158
Message Posted: 14/09/2011 22:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 25 in Discussion |
| so sorry to read the above. please also read my "news" shock ,horror and criminal |
spider

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Message Posted: 14/09/2011 22:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 25 in Discussion |
| HildySmith. Seems like that has not happened as yet ? Strange as it may see to you and I both ! Spider,X |
birdman


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Message Posted: 14/09/2011 22:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 25 in Discussion |
| BTT please |
foodie

Joined: 27/05/2011 Posts: 76
Message Posted: 15/09/2011 02:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 25 in Discussion |
| btt please |
snd1966

Joined: 10/06/2009 Posts: 353
Message Posted: 15/09/2011 06:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 25 in Discussion |
| From the picture in the paper it looks exactly like what the Belediyesi used for the tree rats. five years ago i followed the van with two men stood in the back throwing it out onto hedge rows and rough land but told it was safe as it was mixed with corn and there was a vermin problem and the bags were clearly marked with the skull and crossbones therefore showing danger. |
the2ofus

Joined: 13/02/2008 Posts: 637
Message Posted: 15/09/2011 08:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 25 in Discussion |
| spider After years of campaigning the relevant authorities and Gvmt to stop the use, and indiscriminate sale, of poison i am sure that KAR are aware of the process they need to go through in order to complain about this recent finding. Their first concern is to warn members of the public so they can try and protect themselves and their pets. The whole investigation (and complaint) takes, as per usual here, time and lots of paperwork,telephone calls and knocking on many doors only to be told to go on to the next one ! Often with no suitable answers at the end - but they will, i am sure, be doing everything they can to get to the bottom of it. |
BoTanica

Joined: 22/12/2009 Posts: 714
Message Posted: 15/09/2011 11:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 25 in Discussion |
| If the bags were unopened, maybe they were put there for distribution later by the authorities? I Remember back in the Uk one snowy winter, the council threw sacks of salty-grit at the side of the road every few feet or so. A couple of hours later the men with shovels appeared. |
BoTanica

Joined: 22/12/2009 Posts: 714
Message Posted: 15/09/2011 11:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 25 in Discussion |
| One of the most valuable lessons you can teach your dog is to NEVER pick up anything in their mouth while walking. It won't help the street dogs - but may save your pets life. Its one of the lessons you can learn at Lena's dog training courses. |
Tango1

Joined: 19/02/2011 Posts: 1151
Message Posted: 15/09/2011 16:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 25 in Discussion |
| Unfortunately the bags appeared to be made of biodegradible plastic and were splitting. As you say they were mixed with grain. However, not many dogs in my experience can read or would recognise what a skull and crossbones means. Any young child who is a fan of Pirates of the Caribbean would recognise the symbol and think it great to pick it up. This abhorrent behaviour is not going to stop until someone is killed. Tragic but unfortunately true. T1 |
HildySmith

Joined: 02/07/2009 Posts: 1708
Message Posted: 15/09/2011 22:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 25 in Discussion |
| Message 22 is quite right - you can train your dogs not to touch items, people or other dogs when walking. Simply you the word LEAVE!!!!!!! Use a hard, firm, loud. voice - it works if you keep doing it. Practice with a toy and then give him/her permission to go and get it. |
Tango1

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Message Posted: 16/09/2011 12:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 25 in Discussion |
| Would that I had eyes at the back of my head when I take our four out for a walk, even on long leads its well nigh impossible to see what all four are sniffing at, at all times. |
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