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arrry


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Message Posted: 18/11/2008 15:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 64 in Discussion |
| Do you remember the embarrasing things your mum used to do ?? And still does !!. I remember my mum getting out her hankie and spat on it ,so she could wipe something off my face. We were on a bus in the middle of London, and i was 14 years old !!!.MUM DON'T |
The-Wicks

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Message Posted: 18/11/2008 18:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 64 in Discussion |
| That was also one of my Mum's favourite tricks! |
Littlenige


Joined: 24/12/2006 Posts: 3594
Message Posted: 18/11/2008 20:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 64 in Discussion |
| My mum Is Dead so is my dad I am so so glad. |
The-Wicks

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Message Posted: 18/11/2008 20:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 64 in Discussion |
| Nige - what do you mean? Both my parents are dead too, but I certainly wouldn't say I was glad. Am I missing something here? If I am, I apologise, but it does seem a very heartless thing to say, even if you didn't have the best of relationships with them. J |
fire starter

Joined: 19/06/2008 Posts: 3401
Message Posted: 18/11/2008 20:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 64 in Discussion |
| my mum is in the uk. she's always been ok, she did crash the car on the way to a school swimming competition once. now i'm in cyprus i have a new mum who adopted me, she is great.(and she doesn't drive.) she will make a good cypriot out of me yet. |
wynyardman


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Message Posted: 18/11/2008 21:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 64 in Discussion |
| Nige, Mine are too. We miss them badly! wyn |
smithy

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Message Posted: 18/11/2008 21:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 64 in Discussion |
| arry #If only I had those memories to look back on I wouldn't be embarrassed I would have been happy to have my mum, you see mine died at the age of 39 leaving 7 children from ages 9 days old - 14 years (I was 6) she could have spit on my hankie or done anything and I would have been happy to say thats my Mum Smithy |
Teresa

Joined: 21/11/2007 Posts: 1018
Message Posted: 18/11/2008 21:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 64 in Discussion |
| I lost my dad almost coming up 3 years ago and i would do anything to have him back again. |
Lemtich


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Message Posted: 18/11/2008 21:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 64 in Discussion |
| I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my dear old dad and not screaming in fear and terror like the passengers on the bus he was driving at that time when it crossed the central reservation into the path of an oncoming petrol tanker. Lem |
pilgrim


Joined: 11/05/2007 Posts: 1404
Message Posted: 18/11/2008 21:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 64 in Discussion |
| My Mum died last year, she was the kindest person I have ever known. bless her. |
slimboy62

Joined: 06/03/2008 Posts: 21
Message Posted: 18/11/2008 23:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 64 in Discussion |
| I lost my mum in August this year rather suddenly and I would give up anything to have her back with me even for just one day - God Bless you Mum xx |
AlsancakJack


Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 18/11/2008 23:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 64 in Discussion |
| Why am I not surprised Nige. That obviously explains a lot of things. |
Lemtich


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Message Posted: 18/11/2008 23:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 64 in Discussion |
| I think I know why as Nige talked to me a while ago, I think it was after Mambo's. I think he has good reason to say what he said. Nige has been through quite a lot as a boy growing up. Lem |
BillyB

Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 436
Message Posted: 18/11/2008 23:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 64 in Discussion |
| My mother in law is going into a home next week, she doesnt know yet but I cant wait to tell her! |
Hector

Joined: 26/08/2008 Posts: 2352
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 00:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 64 in Discussion |
| Lost my father when he was 56 through cancer, although didn't meet him until I was 20, have now lost my mother through alzheimers, albeit she is still alive. |
fire starter

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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 00:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 64 in Discussion |
| hector i think it is harder to accept when loved ones get old and ill. my grandmother was the same. we watched her for years of illness and its heart breaking, and very stressfull. my dad was ill but died quite quickly which was easier to accept, than watching my grandmother suffer. watching and not being able to do anything is so painfull. |
snakes


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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 00:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 64 in Discussion |
| nige ! i,m sorry to see your post and sympathise with your reasons ! and the last thing you need is people preaching to you about how great their relationship is/was with their parents ! its not until you are a parent yourself you realise how difficult it all can be ! i dont know whether you are a parent,uncle,etc but i can assure you that even the most established families have massive problems throughout life ! i adored my parents and wanted to be like my dad yet "no chance" and he died the most horrific of deaths not having even harmed a hair on anyones head ! i am sure being a bit of a rotten dad myself that there are reasons for all parental problems no matter how big or small and we all must forgive somehow !! anyway i'm there with you take care snakes |
mustafa

Joined: 18/11/2008 Posts: 9
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 14:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 64 in Discussion |
| Your adopted mum must be greek,as you seem to detest the turkish people |
joandjelly

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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 15:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 64 in Discussion |
| Hi Hector Alzheimers is a very cruel disease because losing the ability to communicate with your loved one is almost worse than them not being there at all. I lost my mum to Alzheimers 3 years ago and in the end it was a happy release. I hope you can find the strength to see it through to the end. Best wishes. Jo |
ilovemydogs


Joined: 20/04/2008 Posts: 514
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 17:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 64 in Discussion |
| nearly lost my mum to cancer a while back, she has had various problems through her life and has allways had a positive attitude to life. it has helped her and many other people seeing how she is. mind you she says she is leaving her body to medical science, but fears they will not want it, as there are too many bits that don't work, or bits missing, even bits back to front (don't ask). and yet she laughs . the most amazing woman on this earth , in my oppinion anyway. |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 17:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 64 in Discussion |
| Cherish your Parents when they are alive - you miss them when they are gone. |
littlenige


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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 17:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 64 in Discussion |
| If any one knows gordon james watson( blucher street colne ) or arleen patrica watson ( nee huxley of glenfield road nelson )I tell you now they are the scum of the earth. To leave a will banning you son his children or their children from any inheritance because their son married a woman you disaproved of is diabolical, children visited every day for years thought they were loved and then from the grave they got the WILL FROM HELL god dam you to eternity in the bowels of the shite place you deserve to be. |
PtePike


Joined: 20/05/2008 Posts: 2334
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 18:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 64 in Discussion |
| I agree it's a despicable thing to do, Nige. Try and rise above the bitterness. |
cmriver1

Joined: 10/11/2008 Posts: 34
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 18:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 64 in Discussion |
| hector, i lost my mom to Alzheimers, but the 3 years that i had to care for her were great. when i could no longer could care for her and i had to put her in a home it felt like my world came to an end. Love you mom. |
littlenige


Joined: 24/12/2006 Posts: 3594
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 19:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 64 in Discussion |
| Campbell I am not bitter I am disgusted, words fail me the hipocritic catholics could stoop so low I knew the were shite parents but never never imagined they could stoop so low , my dad was very ill from 1965 till he pegged it ( at last ) in 2006 and all three of my kids visited him every day for at least 6 years they wanted nowt from their grandad............... AND BY ECK THEY GOT NOWT a bit of love would have been nice the will from hell will haunt them 4 ever if any one is in colne lancashire and wants £100 quid pour weed killer on their grave and let nowt grow there. so every one says whats up with that grave ...... thats where the SCUM are burried. I will never never be able to heal the hurt those scumbags have given my children they ask what did we do why did they say that about us ?? What do I tell them ?? |
ilovemydogs


Joined: 20/04/2008 Posts: 514
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 19:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 64 in Discussion |
| lets have a game of bowling nigel, that will cheer you up, getting ya ass kicked again. not meaning to make light of you're situation. just to get you're mind off it. |
Littlenige


Joined: 24/12/2006 Posts: 3594
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 19:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 64 in Discussion |
| ilovemydogs thanks I do not dwell on it but now and agin it hurts and I do go off on a rant. SO SORRY ALL . hope you do not have mum and dads that were / are Tw##s. |
ilovemydogs


Joined: 20/04/2008 Posts: 514
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 19:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 64 in Discussion |
| makes us love ours more. i'm sure. |
PtePike


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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 19:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 64 in Discussion |
| Maybe they were not of sound mind when they did the will. Not making excuses, but I was in a kind of similar situation and it turned out brain metastases as a complication from lung cancer was causing irrational and often hurtful behaviour. Only a possibility, of course, and I feel for you because as you rightly say, how can you explain it to the kids. |
Littlenige


Joined: 24/12/2006 Posts: 3594
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 19:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 64 in Discussion |
| THEY WERE of sound mind ( alegedley) their brothers and family tried to talk them out of it this was PURE EVIL AND MALICE intended to hurt. I dared to do the right thing by a girl i got upthe duff. Call me old fashioned if you will but when a boy gets a girl up the duff it is the right thing to do to stand by her( if that is hat she wants to ) I elt then and in retrospect that was the right thing to do but as I was leaving home on that dark november night in 1978 I had it screamed at me by an EVIL HYSTRICAL MOTHER IF YOULEAVE HERE TODAY YOU ARE NO LONGER OUR SON........ Well for f f s who wants an evil old cow like that for a mum !! |
Hector

Joined: 26/08/2008 Posts: 2352
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 19:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 64 in Discussion |
| On a personal note, thanks for your comments & support re my mum & alzhiemers. |
wynyardman


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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 19:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 64 in Discussion |
| Littlenige, Quite. wyn |
Littlenige


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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 20:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 64 in Discussion |
| hector hope you can cope with the alzhiemers good luck. |
PtePike


Joined: 20/05/2008 Posts: 2334
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 21:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 64 in Discussion |
| Hector, We're in the same boat. Just got to keep it up, bud. Let off steam on the forum. |
no1doyen

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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 21:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 64 in Discussion |
| My heart goes out to the families of Altzeimer sufferers. |
Arthur

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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 22:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 64 in Discussion |
| My Mum, [God Bless Her] continually tells the same stories over, over and over again, thinking that it's the first time she has told them to Jackie or myself. My Dad died from Parkinson's, and I deeply regret that in the last few years of his life it hindered my chances to communicate with him [and him with me]. You only get [normally] two parents, and when you think they'll be there forever, one or both pop off. I appreciate that not everyone has a positive view of their parents, and although I can't say that I haven't had justifiable moans against them from time to time, I hope I've made them proud of what I've done and what I've achieved. My last great memory of my parents whilst my Dad was still alive was during their diamond wedding celebration [less than three weeks before my Dad passed away], when my Mum had "buttonholed" a guest and was talking without pausing for breath. I put Chas'n'Dave's "Rabbit" on the CD player, my Dad just cracked up laughing.......!!! |
fire starter

Joined: 19/06/2008 Posts: 3401
Message Posted: 19/11/2008 22:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 64 in Discussion |
| mustafa re post 19 i wondered how long it would take you to come back under another name. actually my new mum is turkish cypriot. i also have a turkish brother so i'm not sure how you think i don't like turkish people? sorry don't you like me having greek cypriot friends? i think maybe your just cok deli! |
fire starter

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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 23:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 64 in Discussion |
| i must be a bad parent as my son who is 17 has never been on a train. shows how lazy the next generation will be,lol. |
w26kay


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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 23:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 64 in Discussion |
| My Mum was 80 in July and we had a fantastic party for her and all her friends, which was great as she had not been in the best of health since the summer of 07. My embarassing memory of my Mum (amongst many) was when we went on a trip to London when I was 11. She said we could go to the Ritz for lunch. We did, and sat in the Foyer, whereupon she opened her bag and took out two sandwiches she had prepared at home and wrapped in tin foil. I just wanted the ground to open up beneath me, but, of course like a good little girl, I ate the sandwich. |
w26kay


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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 23:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 64 in Discussion |
| I am so sorry to hear of your experience Nigel. However, I do hope that your parents treated their grandchildren with love and care when they visited? That is what your children will remember in their later years, rather than an inheritance they could have received. Time/love and care are the greatest gift anyone can ever give IMO. Don't let it get you down. It really is not worth hurting yourself and dwelling on the reasons why they chose to do what they did. Let the past go, and live life to the full. Kind regards. Kay |
elko2


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Message Posted: 19/11/2008 23:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 64 in Discussion |
| Nigel, I sympathize with you fully. They could have advised you otherwise but at the end of the day it was your decision and they should have respected it. My parents are dead too and they have been for about 10-20 years. They tried to do their best for us and yet I remember some of the things they did which I did not approve. There was great poverty in those days. I was about 5-6 years old and I remember a family giving away their daughter of about 12 years old to us as a servant. The way she was treated was very agonizing for me and in the end after a year or so she was given back. I could not understand how she was treated differently and had to do the housework at her age. All my life I tried to understand and make up excuses for them but not really. May be like Nigel I may feel easier about it after sharing this with you. Its something I have never forgotten and never forgiven. ismet |
Hector

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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 00:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 64 in Discussion |
| Cliff Richard speaks about 'losing his mum' to alzheimers years before she died. He felt the loss hugely when he could no longer communicate with her. Thank you all again for your kind comments. I'm pleased to say that my brother & his wife are looking after her. I'm ashamed to say that I tried but couldn't cope. |
w26kay


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 01:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 64 in Discussion |
| Hector, it's not an easy task. My gran also suffered, and sometimes with some of the comments my Mum makes now, I do wonder what the future holds for her, and us all in coping. She asked me the other day to get some photos for her from my Dad, who died 19 years ago, but it appears that she had forgotten that. When I quizzed her about it, she denied saying it. Therefore - It's not a matter of if, but when, I think! Hector you can only do your best in this life. Never reproach yourself. Regards. K |
joandjelly

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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 07:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 64 in Discussion |
| Hector, You have my utmost respect in admitting here that you were unable to cope. As you know looking after a loved one with Alzheimers is the hardest job in the world and your brother and his wife will need plenty of support. My dad looked after my mum for about 4 years until he could no longer cope and it was beginning to affect his health. When we made the decision for her to go in to a home it enabled us all to have back a loving relationship because the day to day stress was gone. Keep strong and try to make the best of it while you can. Best wishes. Jo |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 11:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 64 in Discussion |
| I was listening to a radio program the other day about a method for family members dealing with memory loss bought on by dementia and alzheimers in a loved one... I will try and find the link... |
arrry


Joined: 19/08/2008 Posts: 1235
Message Posted: 20/11/2008 19:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 64 in Discussion |
| I wish i had't started this thread arry |
Hector

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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 19:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 64 in Discussion |
| Threads are like children, who knows where they'll end up! What did Forest Gump say? 'My mum used to say that life was like a box of chocolates...' |
wynyardman


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 19:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 64 in Discussion |
| arrry, My friend the truest statement, you ever made. Now to matters of vital importance........ Is it someone elses round? (it will be a jock) Are the glasses covered in ice? Does the Effes taste good? Are you in amiable company? Is the price of Efes acceptable Enjoy your stay in the TRNC. The Efes brewery needs you!! How can you drink without spilling it, while you are lying on a couch? wyn |
arrry


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 19:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 64 in Discussion |
| Wyn Have you ever had a pub to yourself !!! I am the only one in here at the moment, the barmen outnumber the customers !! Do you know it makes you drink more, to make the takings up. It's early yet i am sure there will be more in later, these winter nights are not good for pubs. Stay loose Arry |
wynyardman


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 19:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 64 in Discussion |
| Arrry, That is the saddest thing that I have ever heard. I call upon the good people of Esentepe, to make there way down to EVH, and buy this most honoured member a pint of "Ice cold foaming Efes" Stick in there arrry, I'm on my way! wyn (depressed but thirsty) |
janjin


Joined: 10/04/2008 Posts: 488
Message Posted: 20/11/2008 20:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 51 of 64 in Discussion |
| Hector, Please try to not feel guilty about the time you spend with your Mum. I see my Dad more often than other family members but I want to see him, for my benefit as well as his. My sister feels guilty too in the same way as you, but she supports me in return. I've found in many families there is a main care giver. Just do what you can and don't beat yourself up about it - your Mum would tell you not too, wouldn't she? jj xxxxxxx |
arrry


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 20:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 52 of 64 in Discussion |
| WYn Hurry up geesher cosh i can't lasssht much lonnnger i.m trying my besht to keep the placccche going I won't dgo down without a fghti all ther beshhhhttt Arry |
wynyardman


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 20:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 64 in Discussion |
| Hold in there arrry! Your country needs you! Keep the faith buddy! In God we trust, all others pay cash! wyn |
arrry


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 20:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 54 of 64 in Discussion |
| Jan jim great post . My dad died when i was 18 and my mum brought us up on her own and what a great job she did.!!! She is now 77 and she still fusses over me and my bruvs and sister. She still swears like a trooper and speaks her mind . But she's my mum and she's brilliant All ther best Arry |
arrry


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 20:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 55 of 64 in Discussion |
| Wyn I'm trying my best mate but time is running out !! It's self service now, the barmen have f@%ked off .!! Of course i will put ot down on my tab !! Al ther best Arry |
janjin


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 20:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 64 in Discussion |
| Arry Your Mum sounds like a rock. All the best, enjoy your drink. jj |
wynyardman


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 20:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 64 in Discussion |
| Get me 20 pints Arrry,.....I'm on me way!!!! Like your reference to your parents...... Honour your Father and Mother........Good stuff that Arrry. England is relying on you. The National honour, is at stake. Hold on to the bar Arrry mate. BUT DO NOT GIVE UP! God save the Queen......we are with you in spirit....... The cavalry are on their way!! wyn |
arrry


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 21:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 64 in Discussion |
| Wyn Never give up mate!! The English spirit , is still there. Good result in Germany last night !!! Rule Brittania !!! Stayn loose Arry |
wynyardman


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 21:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 59 of 64 in Discussion |
| Arrry, Good man.......Honi soit qui mal I Pense.. ......................Who won the bloody war??? wyn |
arrry


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 22:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 60 of 64 in Discussion |
| We won ther war !!! The English Army Won the War |
wynyardman


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 22:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 61 of 64 in Discussion |
| Arrry, May your lords go with you. you my friend will sleep, the sleep of the righteous. Esentepe is blessed with your presence. Sweet dreams. wyn |
arrry


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 22:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 64 in Discussion |
| Wyn Got to go geezer i am starting to talk funny !! Catch you later Allther best Arry |
wynyardman


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Message Posted: 20/11/2008 22:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 63 of 64 in Discussion |
| Cheers Arrry, God speed. wyn |
PtePike


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Message Posted: 21/11/2008 12:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 64 of 64 in Discussion |
| arry: "We won ther war !!! The English Army Won the War." Which war before the 1707 Act of Union are you talking about? |
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