Does anyone require home nursing?

mitsi


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 345

Message Posted:
18/11/2008 21:14

I am a Reg. General Nurse and would like to do home visits for anyone recovering from illness or needing post-operative care. All refs available for checking as is my Registration with Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC).

PLease post or e-mail me with any questions. I have my own Blood Pressure sphygmanometer (the reliable manual type) and stethoscope to do your checks.

Please feel free to discuss your needs in confidence. Will also be volunteering to help out at the BRS.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
18/11/2008 21:23

in the uk we have to check people out before employing them for nursing care when people are barred from working with vulnerable adults we with privatre nursing establishments cannot employ them BUT THE NHS CAN and they can also work abroad. Anyone employing people for nursing care should check out the individuals and obtain referneces covering at least the previous 5 years.

mitsi


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 345

Message Posted:
18/11/2008 22:20

Rocky, as I have said before, I have refs going back for as long as you care to mention AND I have been HOME OFFICE checked. NMC have up to date data and I would insist that I be checked with them and have my registration verified. There are no skeletons in my closet.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
18/11/2008 22:50

If there are no seletons in your closet then you have nothing to worry about but anyone contracting services should be very diligent in their enquiries as I said one can be prevented from working in the private sector but can still work in the NHS, Who cares what the HOme Office have done I do not trust government data they do lose it from time to time.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
18/11/2008 22:53

for seletons please read skeletons it s full bodied red I am drinking so sorry

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
18/11/2008 22:55

Can I have a bed bath !!

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
18/11/2008 22:59

Not before time, Turt.

scampy



Joined: 15/01/2008
Posts: 982

Message Posted:
18/11/2008 23:03

I'd like a top and tail please......

Susie x

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
18/11/2008 23:21

my local shop keeper does blood pressure checks for free,lol.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 00:23

Rocky,

A little harsh on Mitsi perhaps? I mean, not having any qualifications or being 'checked out' doesn't seem to stand in the way of other professions in NC does it? Take being a lawyer for example.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 00:27

it is a worry though, think of how many people work here with children.

then think of how many criminals are here, who knows who they have let in?

(mitsi thats no direspect to you.) just saying in general.

lesleyd



Joined: 05/06/2007
Posts: 265

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 02:45

Hi Mitsi

I am sure that mackaozy will need your services soon after his last posting...lol

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 07:45

Fire starter



"my local shop keeper does blood pressure checks for free"



Is that the usual "punch on the nose and see if it bleeds" job?

mitsi


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 345

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 09:43

Thanks for all your comments but be careful as you may all have need of my services in the future. Rocky, let me tell you that I worked as a bank nurse in the private sector too, besides doing my regular job and saw problems there with nurses who had been turned down by NHS yet got jobs in nursing homes etc; One nurse was taking the drugs and robbing the syringe drivers of the diamorphine for herself!! Others were drunk on duty or just downright cruel to patients and nothing was done COS you need proof of two witnesses or more.You seem to have a real beef with nurses in general(forgive the pun). I agree not to trust anyone but that applies to all trades/professions doesn't it?

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 10:55

I do not have a beef with nurses... I married one, you should not be upset reading threads where I am advising people to exercise caution as to who they appoint as a carer for a frieind or relative unless you have something to hide.

Becks


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 130

Message Posted:
21/11/2008 12:11

I would not use anyone whose refernces were not checked out. Having said thatveeferences can be falsified.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
21/11/2008 12:12

Becks,



You simply phone around and speak in person to former employers. Also you check out their UKCC registration.

mitsi


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 345

Message Posted:
23/11/2008 15:48

Ptepike, thanks for that but it is no longer the UKCC and changed to NMC many years ago. Nursing and Midwifery Council and we have to apply each year for new registration now and it costs, just waiting for the latest figures/fees to continue mine. As for refs, well if you contact the referee in person, it's safer than a piece of paper, which anyone could have written. People are falsifying Diplomas, degrees and the like nowadays, so go to the horses' mouth.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
23/11/2008 15:51

Mitsi



"so go to the horses' mouth."



Are you a vetinary nurse too?

lovelife


Joined: 07/07/2007
Posts: 231

Message Posted:
23/11/2008 19:54

mitsi



Renewed my registration in Aug and it was £76, dare say the RCN will be increasing their fees in the new year as well.



LL

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
23/11/2008 21:26

groucho re post 14

no i am being serious. he has the machine and about once a month everyone stops by and gets their blood pressure checked.

keeps the gp and hospital visits down for the locals.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
23/11/2008 21:39

'Ptepike, thanks for that but it is no longer the UKCC and changed to NMC many years ago.'

Well done John, up to date with your information again I see.

bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
23/11/2008 22:18

As a manager in the NHS, can I just say that we do not employ any nursing staff, until they are police checked, their registration has been confirmed with the NMC and we have contacted their last 2 employers. It is untrue that only nursing homes check this. It can now take 3-4 months before staff are offered the post because of the checks that are made. The introduction of the knowledge and skills framework also goes some way to making sure that nurses have the skills to do the job. Down grading is now possible.



It has become increasingly harder for nurses to get jobs within the NHS since the Beverley Allott incident. Procedures have been tightened and the interview process is much more rigorous.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
23/11/2008 22:21

the problem is with the NHS is that they are not required to check the ptotection of vulnerable adults register whereas private care homes are. We dimissed a member of staff (for reasons which will remain confidential)and registered the individual on this register therefore no care or nursing homes would appoint this individual. THe NHS gave her a job......talk about an equal playing field and the NHS being diligent its a load of shoe makers

bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
23/11/2008 22:52

We have also found that people awaiting disciplinary action or that have experienced summary dismissal in the NHS have found employment in nursing homes or agencies despite their name and the incident being provided to the NMC. So this is not a problem only being experienced in the NHS but in the private sector too.



I am not suggesting that one sector is better than the other, as its really about individual care establishments and if they strictly adhere to policies and procedures.There is good and bad in both sectors. I still maintain that there are far more robust systems operating in the recruitment of staff. They have certainly allowed me to prevent people from even getting to the interview stage let alone securing employment.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
23/11/2008 23:57

does the NHS now check the protection of vulnerable adults register? I think not and I know not... you ignored this point. Yes I agree there are errors in many recruitment files in many different business that is a fact of life I have particularly witnessed this in the financial services industry where there have been comprehensive guidelines for many years.

bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
24/11/2008 01:03

Rocky you seem to think that having a vulnerable adults register will prevent all incidents of abuse. Clearly this is not the case. The Childrens Act and at risk register has failed to prevent the abuse of children like the recently publicised baby P. There is much debate and research suggesting that nurses feel that if the NMC register and current system of reporting nurses who do not adhere to the current code of conduct is not achieving the desired results, why on earth would a replica register be effective? All this points to is, if it is not highlighted on a register in which its main objective is to safeguard the patient and public, then creating another register is just going to add to the beauracratic nightmare that exists already. Its currently difficult to police without adding too.

Perhaps making nurses register on two registers is really about the government collecting two lots of fees from nurses rather than safeguarding vulnerable patients?

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
24/11/2008 11:58

so that confirms it then you dont want to answer the question and this verifies that you and the NHS dont check a very important register where relevant information is held which may prevent abuse. As it is not government requirement for the NHS to check it I am not surprsed you have not referred to this you are probably not even aware of it. Yes you can can cloud your postings with other matters but the register is very relevant. Little knowledge is a dangerous thing so just listen to other views rather than condemn them.