Are CY44 being fair with Arriva?

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 12:34

Once again CY44 have closed down a thread which in essence was compiled by members who were very happy to recommend "Arriva " and their service. The thread was closed down by Elko2 who stated that the thread had been addressed and he also indicated that CY44 would not give in to those who had e-mailed CY44 requesting a certain member to be banned. I can understand and fully support their policy of not giving in to blackmail (if this was the case) but I'm completly at a loss to understand why the thread was closed given that most of the postings were in recognition of a successful TRNC company and reflected the views of many of Arriva's satisfied customers -so why did Elko2 close it down and are CY44 being fair with Arriva?



As an observation there have been many other threads were members have spoken favourably about other companies and these threads have been aloud to continue!!

kittyfun


Joined: 11/04/2011
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 12:45

Once again who really cares

To magicfart from Kittycat

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 12:49

Kittyfun.....I would have thought that was obvious.........even to you !

The members (100 or, so) who compiled the thread.

Think again !

Visitor


Joined: 19/08/2010
Posts: 492

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 12:49

Not sure its there place to support individual businesses. Is that fair for competitors.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 12:55

It is true it is unbelievable.



Any and every business should be supported under non stop attack.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:19

As an observation there have been many other threads were members have spoken favourably about other companies and these threads have been aloud to continue!!



The problem is that this old chestnut is brought up in every way possible, and then some, often just to cause aggravation for other people, who incidentally can be equally annoying.





Would it not be possible for Arriva to create it's own site with a section for customer testimonials then prospective buyers could get the information they want without all the crap that comes out on here.

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:23

There is a big difference between supporting a business and blatent advertising. Bare in mind cyprus44 is a commercial site.



People recomending something ie a restaurant is one thing but having it constantly mentioned on any thread to with eating would constitute advertising. The principle here is the same

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:25

Hattikins......what a good idea !

A forum where people can go and get a full range of technical advice - I will have it ready before you can say: "Arriva - The best TV System in Northern Cyprus"

Anyone who is interested in applying to become a moderator, please email me.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:26

Stubs.............this site is about sharing information. Are you saying that mmmmmm was wrong in repeating the same information over and over on hundreds of threads ?

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:28

Stubs.........don't forget, it's the customers of Arriva who were praising their product and service. are you saying that they shouldn't be allowed to do this ?

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:37

mg 10, Stubs.........don't forget, it's the customers of Arriva who were praising their product and service. are you saying that they shouldn't be allowed to do this ?



Of course you should Paul, as an aside, do any of your customers want to buy a top of the range Arriva phone system. Perfect working order, unfortunately, not on my system. But, before I changed my system, it worked perfectly for me, still boxed.



T

Visitor


Joined: 19/08/2010
Posts: 492

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:39

Over and over. I think some people complain but actually they enjoy the endless bickering!

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:39

Paul



There is a big difference between praise and recomending goods or services and what could be constituted as blatant advertising.



As for your spat with Mark I think you should take that off board as a public forum is probably not the best place to air you washing. Both of you seem to be repeating the same things.

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:45

6ms causes all the trouble.



He has no choice but to defend himself, every time 6ms starts it's like everyone has to work twice as hard to make up for the damage caused, it seems that if he was not being attacked there would not be this volume of advertising.

Its so obvious what the problem is.

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:46

Tony



I never said that at all I was just merely pointing out the difference between praise and recommendation and advertising.



It was not so long ago that an eatierie in Alsancak was constantly on this board via recomendations and also the owners posting here. Nothing malicous in itself with that however this is a commercial board and it did come accross as advertising. There is a difference.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:46

Stubs.........so, are you saying that I should write to my customers and tell them NOT to recommend us/our system ?

OR, maybe we should sell something of lesser quality and not service our customers so well so that they don't feel the urge to recommend our business !!!

I'm searching for the logic in your argument -please help me.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:51

Stubs.............Message 9

"this site is about sharing information. Are you saying that mmmmmm was wrong in repeating the same information over and over on hundreds of threads ?"

If he didn't keep repeating the same thing and speculating maliciously about Arrive maybe, our customers wouldn't feel that it was necessary to defend us ?

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:51

i think a company should be allowed to promote itself,but the slagging matches do get a bit heated,maybe if washerman/6ms have their own thread and they cant write on each others might work,especially something negative, just an idea,

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:51

"6ms causes all the trouble"



Mark has given some very good advice on this and similiar forums over the years.



He has pointed out several inaccuracies in what a business claims and makes a valid point about annual versus monthly subscriptions for consumer protection.



Consumers can use that information whatever way they please.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 13:57

There is a thread (and similar ones) that have been running for a number of months "Solution to Your all computer problems (IT SOLUTIONS)" - A blatant advert and there are many other examples ! Example: What about the Rugby World Cup Adverts ?

Why has Ismet Ustuner singled out Arriva ?

The thread should be re-opened - it's an afront to free speech !

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 14:02

Paul



If you cant see the difference between blatant advertising and recomendations on what is a commercial board where advertisers pay for space ie banners then sorry I'm not sure if I can help you see that logic.



Im not so sure he is speculating but makes a couple of valid points ie annual subscription versus monthly and also claiming to be an "official dealer". In fact one of Marks points is that he encourages customers to pay by credit card so that they have protection.



To be fair Paul it is great publicity for your company and also a very cost effective way of advertising and if the claims on this board are to be correct think how many new subscriptions you have had in the last few months ;-)

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 14:02

It is in order to express satisfaction with a certain service or product but blatant advertising is another matter and in this case it has been exaggerated well above tolerable limits. C44 has better things to discuss rather than keep reading the same things over and over again which is obviously well orchestrated and directed from the same source.

Let us put this matter to rest again please and no more attempts from ther same list of people. You had your say.

ismet

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
24/09/2011 14:03

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.