What will the sentance be

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Message Posted:
24/09/2011 23:57

On monday in the south side court !

moxie


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 00:10

365 days a year dog walikng

andre514


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 04:13

message 1:



are you in fact talking about local bad boy gary robb?



since this trial is first and foremost a *political caper"

if robb is found guilty as charged,

I strongly suspect he would be let out quietly and early

...since the over-riding point is **technical ownership



'course this will not be happening in a vacuum:

nearly half the "assets" of cyprus two leading banks

are greek government bonds so they may fail any time



...meanwhile the leaders of the eurozone will be

desperately scrabbling around trying to keep italy afloat,

while china and america wring their hands in horror



andre



* aphostides said: "I am political not party-political" re. the orams saga

** technical ownership ie registration without possession of the property

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 07:45

I think the RoC govt. now wish they had never started the process, having done so they will be backtracking all the way.



The sentence I think will be Gary will be 'Walking backwards to Christmas'.



Seriously, what they will really do is anyone's guess, they are in such a mess, one more mouth to feed,,do they really need it?

teatime


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 07:56

I believe they will have to find him guilty, or they will be going against they're own misguided beliefs.

waddo


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 09:59

Whatever it is he will be sent back to UK to serve any time given - which only means that he will walk away from the whole thing free and clear - unless they kept his place open when they let him out last time.



There will be another vague rule in the big book of EU bedtime story's that the UK lives by and because his new cell won't have a minimum of a 42 inch LCD TV, with all sports packages installed, he will have to be let out in case he misses the 2012 Olympics!



Money is the answer, the more you got, the less (time) you do. That's the way the system works. The rest is just publicity for the poor Greek speaking Cypriots who have live on the meager refugee payments as do all their family's.

Troodo


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 11:06

I see Kangaroos’ jumping all around the courtroom.

andre514


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 11:38

I know this is off-thread, but in a small village in gozo-malta

a local resident, perhaps arrived back from oz,

...has a five-foot tall stone kangaroo installed on his balcony



maybe he could donate it to tart up the courthouse entrance

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 12:10

may well of already pleaded "guilty" to get it out of the way , why plead not guilty knowing you would be found guilty and the trial could take at least a year to come to the courtroom , plead guilty and with a little time served be out in 10 months .



Any side bets !

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 13:09

I'll bet he is free before the Aga victims ever see a penny or a property.

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 13:10

He did one thing right then , he never mortgaged the land !

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 13:16

Prboably didn't get round to that one before he had to do a runner.

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 13:17

Your Probably wrong !

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 13:27

I probably am, after all he is such a paragon of virtue. However, you are probably right, I sort of remember a Finance/Mortgage Company within this org. and wasn't Akan Kursat very involved in that side too? NOw if Akan Kursat was standing tria tool, that would be justice. I do recognise that Gary wasn't acting alone.

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 13:31

It could be said there is a fall guy in all walks of life !

Bradus


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 14:05

and there couldn't be a better fall guy than one that is guilty as charged and responsible for lots of peoples misery.May his sentence continue.

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 15:28

Lets hope he doesn't get the Death Sentence which he helped inflict on my husband! and the many illness's some of his victims now have to live with!



He needs to hang his head in shame along with his so called friends to continue to defend the indefensible, grotesque is the word that comes to mind!

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 15:38

I did hear yesterday that the courts/lawyers where trying to do a deal and asking him to supply all the UK addresses of his buyers ,what sort of deal the person did not know ,why would the prosecution wish to know the UK addresses of the buyers and for what purpose ,its a can of worms if you ask me !

Bradus


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 15:51

What? Like they have not got the names of all GC property owners already?



More likely they want to know the extent of the corruption.

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 16:06

I think you will find they are not interested in corruption or koshans ,from what im told more interested in who all buyers are and if they still live in the UK , putting ones self in his shoes if there is a 3 year sentence for not telling the addresses of all buyers or a 1 year sentence for giving all buyers addresses what would people do in that position.



They did say when shown koshan for land that it means nothing to them.



And remember im just repeating what was spoke.



I'm guilt of nowt

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 16:22

What are you trying to do? frighten me? frightening elderly ladies is about what you are good at! I have told you before they can have my address anytime!



The only thing I think your guilty of David is being a bullying henchman, who loves "Midnight Express"

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 16:35

Trish.



As i said , im just the messenger ,and i do not look like david ;)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUn0n9Yu7Vw

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 16:53

Oh yes oh course they already know all of the buyers - dont take any notice of what is posted here girls. Of course it is another not so subtle form of intimidation, just as well we all know they have all the names and addresses already isn't it. He wouldn't give them if they didn't, like hell he wouldn't, just like he didn't put out instructions 'tell Akan Kursat to get in all the money or cancel the contracts', yes you can just see Gary being loyal to his purhasers 'aka VICTIMS'. iF IT WERE TO HIS ADVANTAGE he would be singing like a canary. Only problem with that is, he has nothing to tell them they don't already know.

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 16:56

Oh be jezus



tank god for that!

Stubs


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 17:00

Its actually quite funny this with the idiots on the south side.



How can they possibly prove that Gary Robb is the owner unless they have legal documents to do so?



Also having the names and addresses of buyers in the UK serves very little purpose, firstly they are not trespassing as the development is incomplete and secondly very if few if any have taken "legal" ownership in terms of title deeds.

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 17:03

When they saw the koshan for Amaranta valley stubs they said it means nothing ,it is not legal .

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 17:08

Well that's par for the course David when did Mr Robb do anything Legal?

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 17:11

trish. please . i am not david .



If that koshan is not legal in there view ,what chance has any one else who thinks there koshan is a legal document .



If you are given title to a house or land you would automatically think its what it says TITLE.



The GCs think otherwise.

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 17:16

Yes indeed Thank God for that.

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 17:39

Stubs (mess 25)



As far as I am aware no Aga Victim on any of Robb's decimated lands has their deeds!



misunderstood (mess 23)



No I don't think he would sing like a canary more like the vulture he is!

Bradus


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 17:56

What a ludicrous suggestion that the GC Government is reliant on Gary Robb to give them the names of the Aga victims!



I suggest people read what he is charged with and stop trying to deflect his guilt on to others.

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 21:04

Suzie.



It is also a ludicrous suggestion that the GC government and courts say a koshan is not a legal document for a house in the north.

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 21:51

David, I'm not Suzie, however............



Ludicrous it may or may not be! we are talking about Gary Robb & Aga Developments the man and the company along with his legal team and co-directors, that had no Planning Permission to build anywhere, that not one victim has had their "koshan" Legal or otherwise! on any decimated land........ although I understand he went hand & hand (so to speak) with the Government of the day



Just for the record DAVID the Greek Cypriot Government can have my NAME & ADDRESS whenever they want it, I may be able to help them with their enquiries

Bradus


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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 21:53

What according to you, Turkey and the TRNC? I think whether right or not, the rest of the world and the ECHR will be in agreement with the ROC.

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 23:26

message 33



i was commenting to Suzie/bradus.



Anyway can we please put this thread back on topic which was "What will the sentence be"



Regardless of what the ROC says and if that is not to your taste then Cyprus really was not the right place for you to buy it seems !

Trish , as i said , i was just commenting regarding what maybe the sentence may be and again as you do with many threads ,you hijacked it to publicise your own case which i know very little about and is non of my business and i have no wish to delve into your case.

msg34. I never mentioned Turkey or TRNC , now im confused !

marcosthechef



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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 23:34

nearly half the "assets" of cyprus two leading banks



are greek government bonds



The other half is probably black money from who ever wanted to launder it over the last decade !!!!

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Message Posted:
25/09/2011 23:39

http://www.turks.us/article.php?story=20021216093715339

Stubs


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 02:22

Jenny/Amanda



In the eyes of the GC's I really am not sure how much water their case holds.



for me its just a propaganda exercise, nothing more nothing less

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 07:29

David, TRNC victim is who she says she is, suzi is suzi and bradus is bradus and me, well you know who I am.



We all had a good laugh about Gary allegedly not being anything to do with Aga, next we'll be reading neither did Akan or all the others named in all the official and TRNC stamped company documents.



But to answer your questions 'what will the sentence be?' Who really cares, except Gary? I think as you say, he is the fall guy but he was accessible, the rest are going to have to be very careful where they travel in future. Being the fall guy doesn't make him innocent. The most important sentence will be 'guilty as charged', at least from his victim's point of view. Will it help them fincancially, no. Will it stop the fraud going unchecked here, no. Will it give his victims closure - I hope so but I have my doubts.

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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 18:25

Pauline . i think you have a misunderstanding. TRNCvictim is Trish. bradus is Suzie i never thought for 1 min that Trish was Suzie .



As long as like you say the person is guilty as charged it gives closure , will that also count in your eyes if its a suspended sentence or a 6 month sentence !



Any one know the result today ;)

philbailey


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 18:33

If guilty what will be the effect

of the verdict for buyers?

erolz


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 18:38

When he is found guilty it will have no meaning for buyers of disputed title in the North.



It may have some relevance for any other non cypriots devolpers who became such whilst being wanted for serious criminal charges in the UK , who then fall out with the TRNC authorites, return to the UK and get prosecuted and jailed in the UK and then RoC issue a EAW for them and it is executed on their relase from jail in the UK. Which is not many people thankfully.

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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 18:54

I think the sentence will only be a poo and a shave !

philbailey


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:11

Any news on today?