Cyrus Unificationure

ronaldo


Joined: 14/11/2007
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 15:10

Why is it that the south of the island now wants to own all of the Island Once Again? 34 years have passed of peace and tranquillity in the north . Newspaper reports over the years reporting that the pyriah state as they called it was a horrible place to live. No one in the south give a damn! Untill the borders were relaxed. And slowly but surely , more people visit the North and realise . Heh! what a beautifull part of the Island this is .suddenly every one in the south have someone in there family which owned properties in the north to which they say someone has stolen . and yes you got it . they now want it back.

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 17:55

Sounds spot on to me Ronaldo. An interesting alternative slant on the situation. Will be intersting to see what some members have to say on this.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 17:58

dont trust greeks baring gifts, greedy race always have been, dont even like each other

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 18:42

Almost too much complex political analysis to handle there.

andysue


Joined: 12/11/2007
Posts: 891

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 19:30

my slant on it is this, i hope the talks fail( and every chance they will) the outcome could be the TRNC become a federal state of turkey. the way the U.S are pampering turkey behind the scences , it will be only a matter of time before the U.S self regornizes the north .problem solved for all us ex-pats

mitsi


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 345

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 20:28

msg 5 Agree with you. Turkey is on the up and up let's join them.

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 20:53

The talks will succeed and the politicians will recommend to the voters on both sides of the island to vote YES for reunification. The voters will all agree and a united island will live in peace and harmony.

The Church will accept the Turks as equals and will apologise for the grief caused to the innocent, the Girne by pass will be completed and a new Cyprus flag depicting cuckcoos flying through a cloudy haze will be flown from every flagpost in the land.

ronaldo


Joined: 14/11/2007
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 22:00

Cyprus flag depicting cuckcoos flying through a cloudy haze will be flown from every flagpost in the land. Totally agree CJ what wonderfull thoughts LOL ronaldo

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 22:19

Msg 5:"my slant on it is this, i hope the talks fail( and every chance they will) the outcome could be the TRNC become a federal state of turkey. the way the U.S are pampering turkey behind the scences , it will be only a matter of time before the U.S self regornizes the north .problem solved for all us ex-pats"



You don't care much about the Turkish Cypriots if you want their country to be swallowed up by Turkey just to protect a handful of expats and their ill-gotten gains. Can't wait for a TC to read this.

Nemika



Joined: 05/04/2008
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 22:37

As a TC it doesnt matter what we want to happen what will happen will happen i have asked my whole family what they think on the matter and all of them said they dont care any more we have lived as 2 halfs for to long it doesnt matter what happens now. if we are as one again it doesnt matter either we lived before as one we can do it again. the only people i hear going on and on and on and on are the expats why are you all worrying about it. you all knew the situation before you bought here and knew this could happen.

But it will never happen so stop worrying about it.

andysue


Joined: 12/11/2007
Posts: 891

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 22:39

of course i realize turkey want EU membership, if the talks fail and the north come fully under and a state of turkey EU membership would automaticly have to include the north of cyprus bringing investment and higher living standards for everyone.turkey would not need to finance it all on its own like it does now.the US are the ones pushing the EU to get turkey in because they are a very important stategic power in a area of increasing insability ie. georgia which borders turkeys north. time magazine repoted months ago the US were constructing seven large new bases in northern turkey, i wonder what turkey was promissed in return for this . . regards andrew

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 22:51

andysue

Absolutely correct, Turkey are being coerced into joining the EU and the country is in two minds about the benefits of entering the EU zone. It would be a shame if Turkey gave in because they do not need the EU.

AJ

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 22:53

andysue,



What state do you think the north of Cyprus would be in about 10 years from now, when Turkey is finally admitted to the EU?

andysue


Joined: 12/11/2007
Posts: 891

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 23:07

suzanne one thing you should know about american politics is that a newly elected president is not privy to facts , untill that is, he is invited into the offices of the central intelligene agency and a meeting with the joint cheifs of staff. all of which will happen in the next couple of weeks.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 23:14

andysue

obamas problem as you say is that he doesn't have the facts yet.

makes me wonder why he has an opinion on cyprus?

things which he has said, show he has little knowledge on the subject.

maybe he should shut up until he knows the facts.



for me i would like to see a solution for cyprus. one island working together in peace for the future of the children.

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
19/11/2008 23:36

The American influence upon Turkey is apparent. USA military presence in Eastern Turkey has been significant since the first gulf war. The TRNC is not a major on the American political agenda. The Middle east and its oil resources are far more important. American support and presence in Israel could possibly have some slight bearing on TRNC because of history of Israeli investment into TRNC. USA have no reason to push for a solution but may well support the EU in its aspirations for re-unification.



The EU agenda is of much greater significance. When Turkey join the Union then Europe will border the Middle East and thence have greater influence upon this strategicley significant region. A unified cyprus that is within the union with its military bases operational will be very important to its strategic presence in the Eastern Mediteranean.



My view, however, is that settlement from within will be given full support before EU will bring pressure to bear on ROC, TRNC and Turkey.

ronaldo


Joined: 14/11/2007
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
20/11/2008 00:06

Why should it matter , If turkey joins the EU or not ? cyprus as an Island is in the EU not just the South as you would like every one to believe. But still the t/cs are denied there basic human rights. What double standards the EU practices. Hyprocritical comes to mind.

ronaldo

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
20/11/2008 00:22

Ronaldo,

If Turkey join the Union what effect will this have on Cyprus?



This will, in the main, depend upon the status of TRNC. A state of Turkey, independant republic, re-unified with the South.



In all three scenarios there will be varying degrees of support; financial, social and political. It is important to the Union that the whole of the Island becomes part of the unified European Union and there will be tremendous benefit to the North Island. The current state of play is rather delicate for the Union to intervene with regard to TCs TRNC as well as Turkey are not Union members. It is without doubt that the union have aspirations that would allow the North to escape from isolation. Turkey becoming a member means this aspiration becomes more acheivable.

truthseeker


Joined: 19/11/2008
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
20/11/2008 08:35

to the poster of message 17



You really do talk out of your arse. You just make wild and incredulous statements You never sunstantiate any of your claims, you never make references for anything you say. You engage your gob without any connection to your brain. You really are incredibly annoying.

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
20/11/2008 08:35

dont you mean flying pigs or arnt those allowed

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
20/11/2008 14:00

Fire Starter - Post 19 - totally agree with you. Good Post.

Biker



Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
20/11/2008 17:11

AndySue



It does not matter if the talks will succed or fail, because even if it succeeds the

GC community will again say OXI at the next referandum.



Leopards do not change their spots.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
20/11/2008 17:36

it ain't going to happen - thank God i didn't buy here on the investment ticket, waiting for the island to re-unite (like me estate agent told me to do)....



Nick