did england cheat!!!!

gusanova


Joined: 23/11/2010
Posts: 187

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 14:43

Well as World Cup progresses to the knockout stages, should England be allowed to stay in the competition?



For those who do not know, the English coaching staff swopped the match ball with a ball that Johnny Wilkinson is more successful at scoring with. This is against the rules and fair play to England they have suspended the 2 coaches involved- one being England and Wilkinsons kicking mentor!!



Aussies are wanting it investigated further and South Africa are also asking for details, an embarrasment yes but is it the end of the matter????

BigMart


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 423

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 14:55

Not sour grapes from a Jock surely ?



Wish you could make it to the Waterfront on Saturday morning Angus, nevermind, I'll have a Efes for you.



per mare per terram

gusanova


Joined: 23/11/2010
Posts: 187

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 15:00

Big Mart,



I wish I could be there mate but us ex Airborne are in demand for work rather than you past sell by date Booties!!



Would have been good banter and truthfully mate, its not sour grapes as I know in my heart that Scotland will win, but in my head well !!!!!!! leave that to you!!

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 15:29

Storm in a teacup. The ball they swapped it for was identical make and model just not a damaged/misshapen one that wouldn't fly straight (which was what the match ball was). I say this as a Scotland supporter. They should not have done it... but what can you do when the ref won't listen?

The swap didn't affect the result of the match which no amount of missed kicks could have accounted for... Final score 67 - 3. So it does beg the question... why did they bother?

gusanova


Joined: 23/11/2010
Posts: 187

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 16:37

You are talking boolcks as usual Groucho!



The ball they swapped was Official match Ball for a Gilbert one!!



Result does not matter but the 'Spirit of the Game' is brought to question!!

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 16:43

Have to say I'm with Groucho on this one. There is a multiball policy for games and they were swapping or attempting to swap the ball with which the try had been scored for a specific one of the other match balls that Johnny Liked.



Leastways that's what I understand.



Harold

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 16:48

c'mon, any guy that thinks Scotland are going to beat England should be listened to. Dunno exactly by whom, but the guy has guts, would you have put your money on David against Goliath? and look at that result, and the hero's name.

Personally I don't think it matters, they're only playing for an also ran trophy.



T

Riddles


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 429

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 16:52

It's cheating plain and simple .....like stuffing brown envelopes in boots during the (so called) amateur era was.

How can we Northern RL oiks ever learn to behave properly when our 'betters' give us such an example?

cavalryman


Joined: 08/11/2010
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 17:49

Who cares they won not sure about tomorrow as I will be sitting with 50 sweaties(all mates I add) in a pub in leith cheering in my england top.( Anyone got the number for the royal infermary just in case?) lol

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 18:50

Yes. Cheating is cheating is cheating.

''This is against the rules and fair play to England they have suspended the 2 coaches involved- one being England and Wilkinsons kicking mentor!''

If England have suspended their coaches - they are admitting they have done something wrong!!

Who ever they played should lodge a complaint - and if the ruling body actually are interested,kick them out - England cheated!

It is simple.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 20:08

Dirty cheating pommie bast...s! It certainly wasn't a close or crucial match to warrant such disregard for plainly laid down rules outside the bodily contact nature of the game.



Richard

keldanreb


Joined: 17/09/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 20:18

bad workmen always blame their tools?

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 21:26

All right Richard



let's have some spear tackles then.



You would know all about those I'm sure.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:27

gusanova, I thought Gilbert were the RWC suppliers... sure looks like the same model to me. BTW Do you need to be quite so rude? "boolcks" really?