What is the difference between Censorship and Moderation

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 21:44

An interesting perspective.



I feela further ban comimg on!



wynyardman

arrry



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 21:53

It is probably a very fine line John !!

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 21:56

I think it was the reason, I was banned for a week Arry!



Take good care of that little lad,



John

newscoop


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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:05

That little lad is showing signs of serious abuse.



Look at the shirt the poor little mite is forced to wear.

elko2



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:09

I might as well give the facts with no further comments. Bill closed a thread and Wynyardman started a new one challenging the closure. I closed the new thread straight away for challenging the moderator's decision. Wynyardman started a further new one with the heading something like this: "If you close a thread with the speed of light,i I can start a new one with the speed of a neutrino". I did appreciate the remark about the neutrino as it was in the news lately about the possibility of having a speed slightly faster than light but he was insistently challenging the right of a moderator to close a thread. Hence the ban for a week.

ismet

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:20

Hi Elko,



? I will have a pint of whatever you are drinking. NOT THIS GUY!



wyn

elko2



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:24

Wyn, now you got me baffled??? Am I dreaming?

ismet

gooligan


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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:29

Ismet,I have the greatest respect for you but rule 4 is a complete joke and moderators shouldn't hide behind it.

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:30

Elko,



I accept that neutrinos travel faster than the speed of light, but how that relates to the activities of a



Cyprus 44 Moderator, is beyond me.



As I recall i was offerring to buy a T shirt for Ismail. Now that is important. Another week wasted.



wynyardman

elko2



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:39

Wyn,

I am not very familiar with the thread that Bill had closed but you started a new one clearly challenging that decision so I closed it promptly and then your new thread and your reference to closures with speed of light and new threads with speed of neutrinos. Don't tell me you don't remember it because if that is the case either its you or me who was drinking at the time. As far as I know last time I drank a glass of wine was about six months ago

ismet

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:45

Elko,



No probs. I posted about Cyprus being up for sale tonight, and negotiations with 6 mmmmmms going on.



Again it dissappeared. That is twice. Is this moderation, or censorship?



Just trying to keep on thread!



wynyardamn

moxie


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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:47

original Q....mates !

elko2



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:48

Wyn, I did see your new thread about 6m and I found it amusing. No idea what happened afterwards.

ismet

PS: Just checked it and its there, nothing happened to it http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/74881.asp

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:52

Hi Elko,



Tell you what, lets put the whole matter to bed. Blame those bloody neutrinos!



wyn



Is Cyprus 44 up for sale, and is 6mmmmmms in last minute negotiations?



wyn

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:54

Wyn. Who is all the m's negotiating with?

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 22:58

Bill,



Dont shoot the messenger. De Management! I presume



wyn

stelee77


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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 23:11

Wynyardman



Come on lets give peace a chance mate.

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 23:33

Msg 14,



I said,



"lets put this matter to bed." It was me who was banned for a week.



wyn

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 23:36

Wynyardman, you still hasn't told me which wine is in your glass?

gooligan


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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 23:45

Hans,it's ' still haven't ',not hasn't.Tch Tch.

What's your tipple,vino collapso?

hattikins


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Message Posted:
30/09/2011 23:47

Clarissa2, don't be so nosey, and Wyn, BEHAVE YOURSELF.

PS Gooligan, it's vino paraletico!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 00:16

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DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 00:48

@ msg 20: Gooligan, the board manager Izzet and possibly the moderators can tell you that msg 20 was posted in the UK or in Northern Cyprus. So there is no reason to call Clarissa2 "Hans". Because Hans is in Holland and he has been there for the past two weeks. Thank you.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 00:52

Typo in msg 23: msg 20 should read: 19.

stubbs1


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 01:24

Wynyardman,



I would suggest a large number of members (much like myself) have given up posting regularly on this site due to the censorship. I have'nt a good word for the so called moderation so I wont use any. People of no importance crave importance and can often be found in situations such as this.

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 01:59

Hans: message 23.



I can tell you that more than one member of this board thinks that "Clarissa 2" is your alter ego (although I'm sure you are well aware of this by now).



Incidentally, I am not one of those persons.



Jean

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 04:32

Nor am I Jeanie - the syntax and grammar tells us as much...

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 09:07

Re: Msg 27,



Indeed, Miss Drusilla Clack.

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 09:20

Msg21,



Hey Hattie. Have a little sympathy.........24degrees in Cyprus ........ 29.5 degrees N.E. England



You lot want to get over here for a tan. Free healthcare too for UK Taxpayers.



Behave yourself !!!! You are naughty, but I like you.



Take care,



wyn



Wyn

Hippo


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 09:26

There is very little difference just depends which moderator"s 'friends' are subject to questioning or criticism.

hattikins


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 09:52

Unless of course the moderators are receiving threatening emails from certain members of the board so feel under pressure to allow some of the more *dodgy* posts to remain without censorship or moderation.

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 10:18

Could be that the Mods are just jealous of your good looks Wyn, and that we are sweltering in the heat here in GB spending our very generous OAP,



Hattikins, it would seem that those 'cretins' who have sent nasty emails to member/s of another forum are allowed to continue on here unchecked as you say...



Very strange moderation as wyn says ....

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 11:13

Hi Wyn



too busy with my lighter weight Makita to have time to debate your late night tipple induced fantasies ;) ..

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 11:36

Hi mmmmmm,



You could ask Washerman or Hippo.



Hopefully their fantasies arn't tipple induced.



wynyardman

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 11:52

Why?



are they trying to 'buy' the board, too ?! :o



MMMMMM

DoctorW


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 14:10

What is the difference between censorship and moderation?



Obviously if you agree with it, its moderation.

If you don't, its censorship!

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 14:21

Msg 28 - just turned on the computer and your post gave me a real hoot - thanks for starting my day (albeit just past midday) with a snigger...



Unfortunately your literary reference falls rather flat in as much as, as far as I can recall, Drusilla was deeply pious, and as anyone who has ever read any of my postings, I believe ALL religions should be erased from this planet - not least, as more deaths occur in the name of Faith, than all the wars put together - don't even start me on 'honour killings' or people whose lives are informed, directed, instructed and led by words written by strangers they will never meet - to me - a form of madness - when we all have minds of our own. So - as an affirmed Atheist, you chose the wrong (poetic licence here) doppleganger for me

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 19:00

Re: Msg 20,



gooligan, I wear lipstick, I'm not fluent in Dutch and not half as intelligent as Hans.



Let's give it a rest now, shall we?



Clarissa



P.S. My apologies for the typo.

If you must know, the vino was a rather indifferent Nemea Agiorgitiko 2009 (which, as I understand from my limited Greek, is supposed to be one of the finest Greek varieties and which I wouldn't recommend to anyone).

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 19:05

re msg 38



Clarissa2



I take it you don't like wines that are tannin (y) and feel a little rough when the tongue pushes the wine into the roof of one's palette ? ...!



re Hans ( DC) Don't 'they' say that intelligence is inversely proportional to common sense... ?



If Hans was REALLY that 'smart' he'd buy THIS board.. THEN we'd see the title of the thread 'kick in' ;)

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 19:35

Clarissa, may I suggest a (reasonably priced) Mouton Cadet may be more acceptable to your obviously discerning palate, as, although Merlot dominant, there is a little vanilla coming off the nose; no oak, but a suggestion of berry fruitfulness, with a smidgeon of liquorice and chocolate, then a touch of green veg on the finish ;O)

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 19:55

Ms Garnet, have you been reading "Oz Clarke's memoirs"?



God, he was pretentious.

Rottolover



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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 20:54

Jeannie, on this occasion I doubt that MsGarnet is in fact being pretentious...I think it more likely that she is having a gentle lend of Clarissa.



Hey Mark, that's pretty colourful language you're using!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 21:09

re 42, Ian



Think I was inspired by the wonderful weather in the UK .. and looking forward to 'Strictly'.. I know SAD..



Of the professional Dancers:



6/14 are E.Europeans



4/14 of the Dancers are Russian and two from Siberia



So, I HAVE to watch )

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 21:58

@ msg 8, 6xM: (...) re Hans ( DC) Don't 'they' say that intelligence is inversely proportional to common sense... ? If Hans was REALLY that 'smart' he'd buy THIS board.. THEN we'd see the title of the thread 'kick in' ;) (...)



Buy this board..?! And inherit YOU (and some other posters/moderators)? You MUST be kidding.

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 22:34

Rotto - astute observation!!!!!!!!



Jeannie - can't abide Oz Clarke - nor that lady that also pontificates on the food programme - whose name escapes me. As regards attention-seeking Clarissa - the lexicon of wine appreciation is, to me, nonsensical - I sense she and I are in accord in that regard - yet feel an aesthete would use aristocratic terminology to describe a good wine - social constructs like cultured, civilised, and so forth, whereas a cheap unpalatable wine would be termed coarse or vulgar - indicating immediately a social divide in as much as those in straitened circumstances might buy cheap wine (ergo are coarse or vulgar) whereas those of a more solvent disposition would buy a better class of wine - ergo - they are of a better class - the whole wine thing to me is risible tripe - pretentious nonsense about a libation that after all, rug rats in France (say) imbibe - virtually as they leave the breast... Uh oh - have I turned into Clarissa 3? :o)

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
01/10/2011 22:42

Rottolover, message 42: sorry, I did not mean to infer that Ms Garnet was pretentious, only that I find Oz Clarke so (for the reasons Ms Garnet has described in her message 45).



Ms Garnet - you obviously realised that was not my intention at all

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 01:06

re 44



Good evening, Hans



I see you haven't had the upgraded SoH chip fitted, yet ... !



Nice of you to visit, us 'plebs' here...

Hippo


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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 07:43

My post was removed with no explanation so own up the board police who did it, probably the pearson who doesn't live here I suspect.

simbas



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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 08:39

Which one was that then Hippo ?, i checked our forum admin logs , as far as can see there is no post from you that was removed

Simbas

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 09:28

@ msg 47, (...) Nice of you to visit, us 'plebs' here... (...)



You may classify yourself and others this way - I didn't and don't. Just for the record.

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 10:08

Hippo,



Back on thread at last.



Your question is precisely what this thread was all about. Is good clean humour being censored now?



wyn

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 10:21

Re msg 50



Good morning Hans,



Sadly, the internet 'search engines' suggest you've posted otherwise.. :(



Anyway, isn't it great to be able to have an 'intelligent' discussion and not have a 'silly' moderator dictate that one's stance - which is that and your / my govts. - is 'disrespectful' ;)

elko2



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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 10:27

Hippo and Wyn,

As Simbas pointed out above there are no recently deleted messages on the log info. Wyn did also claim that his message was deleted but in fact it was live and kicking (see post 13 above).

Anyway, don't let me interfere with a good argument even though it is not true

ismet

stubbs1


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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 10:34

"anyway, don't let me inbterfere with a good argument even though it is not true"



I'll believe that when I see it!!



UP WITH DEMOCRACY



DOWN WITH THE ****. (censored)



I love a good debate where people can air thier views without some bizzy body trying to inbterfere.

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 10:57

Elko2,



Your Message 53 noted. May I refer you to my message 14. Lets blame these pesky neutrinos.



Messages have been going missing, prior to and following my ban .Presumably as neutrinos are now known



to be faster that the speed of light, that explains all. Board integrity was my concern. Moderation is a



fact of life (sadly) Censorship casts a cloud of doubt on the Integrity of Cyprus 44, and non of us would wish



to see this.



wyn

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 15:57

Message 19.



Clarissa "Beaune" What else.



Why are you intent on marriage? Should'nt you give the matter further consideration?



Act in haste, repent at your leisure!



wyn

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 23:15

Re: Msg 56,



wyn,



Beaune? Ah bon!





P.S. The matter of marriage is now well and truly closed!

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
02/10/2011 23:21

Thank goodness you have had second thoughts Clarissa2, it is a big under taking is this marriage lark .....