Squatters North Cyprus

Sazzlelb


Joined: 26/07/2011
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 13:11

I have people in my apartment, one of whom is a friend of friends of friends (which is how they obtained entry). They have never had my permission to be there and have never paid me any rent. They agreed to move out, but on the last day changed their mind. I went over to find a 3000tl water bill, the electricity discinnected with a 900tl bill, but somehow still working.

On entering the house with my key I found various people in bed, threw their stuff out and promptly got arrested. I am willing to do anything possible to get them out.

How do I contact Kibtec to get them to look into the theft of electricity that they are comitting?

Also, who are the best lawyers for the quickest results?

Are there any other ways?

gusanova


Joined: 23/11/2010
Posts: 187

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 14:03

As no one else has replied to you yet Sazzlelb I shall state what happened to a friend of mine who had let his house out to a couple of Brits.



They did not pay the rent, ran up huge bills and when eventually left took almost anything and everything that was not nailed down - to try and sell.

He went to Police as Couple still in Girne, got no support, went to Lawyer and again was not given much support advice given was it would take a long time to hit the court and as you made someone homeles the Law would not look too favourably on you.



Now if your 'Tenants' were Turkish, or Cypriots amplify that last sentence.



Sorry for bad news but you have to be so so so careful if your property is empty, as People are now observing this lack of justice from any Courts or Police.



There again have a look at Squatters Rights in UK- you cant kick them out either, have a look at Dale Farm!!

Molly


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 299

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 14:16

Unfortunately, you have to go the legal route to get them evicted but it will take a long time.



Notice has to be served then you have follow the process.

cavalryman


Joined: 08/11/2010
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 14:23

Are they brits? can you just not change the locks and get someone who lives there to keep an eye on it I did not think non cypriots had any rights

baxi7


Joined: 23/09/2008
Posts: 130

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 17:23

get yourself a cuckoo ? .

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 18:40

Now this is serious!



When are this c----rupt Government going to do the right thing, by purchasers of property in the TRNC?



Speaks volumes for the long term plans of Ex Pats who seek to move permenantly to the TRNC.



Guess the words of "Wherever you may wonder, there is no place like home"



Personally, I would buy two very smelly and un house trained dogs (sexually deprived) qnd move myself back in.



I dont think you would have a problem for too long.



wynyardman

nicola


Joined: 06/09/2011
Posts: 246

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 18:44

Wyn, how right you are, the corruption in the TRNC no know bounds. Your advice re the dogs is an excellent idea, you are my kind of man.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 18:54

Nichola.



Thank you, you are my sort of woman. I need someone to weep each time I get banned



Top up the tear ducts,



wyn

Pippie


Joined: 02/12/2009
Posts: 1288

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 18:56

Sazzle, my heart goes out to you.

Perhaps Molly's comment should be amended slightly - "if you go down the legal route then it'll take a long time". That's all I'm going to say on the subject but ask around there are always people who know someone who know someone who can help - usually for a fee, but hey, how much will it cost you the longer you wait!!



You said you entered the house so, why not go in with some friends (big friends! and ideally Turkish speaking friends who can argue with them and the police if they get called out again), perhaps take a couple of dogs as Wyn suggested, change the locks and then sit there watching TV, make yourself a cuppa and wait for them to get fed up. It's your place, you're entitled to change your locks and add in window locks and bolt up any other way they have to get inside. But you've got to stand your ground, if you are physically able to do so.



Someone once told me that if you deal with criminals you have to think like criminals!

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 18:58

Re-mess 8 Wyn,



The last time you wept was when you had to get a round in.Watch him Nicola,he is bad news,



Paul.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 19:00

You are right Buddy Boy, but they were real tears.



Keep taking the Yorkshire Puddings.



My fondest to the bold one!



wynge

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 19:48

I think Pippie's idea is absolutely bang on!!



''You said you entered the house so, why not go in with some friends (big friends! and ideally Turkish speaking friends who can argue with them and the police if they get called out again), perhaps take a couple of dogs as Wyn suggested, change the locks and then sit there watching TV, make yourself a cuppa and wait for them to get fed up. It's your place, you're entitled to change your locks and add in window locks and bolt up any other way they have to get inside. But you've got to stand your ground, if you are physically able to do so.

Someone once told me that if you deal with criminals you have to think like criminals''



Absolutely!!! Borrow a couple of dogs...preferably big black ones with big teeth (they don't need to be vicious, just to look the part) ask a couple of Turkish speaking friends to come with and take a flask or 2 of coffee (or tea)...and wait.



If you win this war, then it will pave the way for a lot of others!

keith


Joined: 03/04/2007
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 20:14

Are you on a complex and do you have security by the M.C if so ask how they got on the complex and ask for there help in getting them out

Keith

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 21:17

sazzlelb,

Sorry to hear of your experience. It must be distressing for you. This is becoming a common occurrence in Britain and the TRNC. The current laws unfortunately do little to protect property owners. The UK Government , in response to public outcry, are about to implement new ones to speed up the process of evicting squatters. However its a slow process.



If you use the Cyprus44 Google search box and enter "squatters" you will be able to read the many past threads on this subject. Many give good advice and will make you aware of how difficult it is to actually evict the squatters. Some have had success by taking the heavy handed route. Others have been able to shame people by going to their place of employment or using the media and naming and shaming. Others paid the squatters to leave. Courts have been slow to act and the police seem unwilling to get involved. The British community need to unite, as there are many holiday homes that will simply become sitting ducks.

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 21:25

Get back over there and find yourself a couple of bruisers, Pay them to kick the shit out of the biggest arse amongst them, job sorted.



If you go the legal route it could take forever and cost you a fortune.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 21:29

cooper......I like it!



Cooper

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 21:38

Its the only way wyn, its know good being stuck over here worrying yourself stupid. Sometimes you need to take decisive action and this is one of those times.

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 21:39

My questions to you will be:

Did they rent the place from the friend of a fried?

Did you agree at any time to keep them as tenants providing they paid rent?

Are they British, TCs or mainland Turks?

Send me full details to turkishlessons1to1@yahoo.com and I shall see what can be done to help you

nicola


Joined: 06/09/2011
Posts: 246

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 21:48

Cooper, I agree, give the biggest one a good thumping and they will all clear off.

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 22:09

This all i can say on this matter.....





http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/75110.asp



DD

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 22:14

I agree with other comments suggesting you move in and 'occupy your house. With dogs and others. They are happy in the comfort of the house as they can do what they like, however, if you are in there with others then they will get sick of your presence - that is what they do not want.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 22:54

DD



I think we must conclude that the Government says its OK. Otherwise wouldn't they be taking action to prevent this? By allowing the squatters to stay put until the case goes to court, which as we have seen can be years rather than months, it gives the message that the law is on the squatters side. Why can the owner not even stop the electricity and water supply? If he pays the bill and owns the property it should be his legal right. What right has the police and government to prevent owners from doing this?



There will always be those that flout the laws of the land but robust laws should limit the ability to do this and act swiftly to prevent such happenings and hold guilty people responsible for their actions. This is not the way of the TRNC. For this reason Cooper's solution is probably the route I would take. A double whammy because I would then also be guilty of a crime. But with such Government lethargy, damage limitation kicks in and you have no option but to take contro

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 23:49

My two DOBERMAN dogs are available if required and SQUATTERS make me sick to the back teeth so look at my profile and send me an e mail if you you require both me and my dogs - for free !





Gerry (tell it as it is!)

steptoenoel


Joined: 27/04/2011
Posts: 116

Message Posted:
04/10/2011 01:45

Does anyone have good rental experiences?As yet we have avoided that road but with increased this and that..who knows!All we have seen is doom and gloom.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
04/10/2011 06:45

If you re-read the original post you will see that this illegal occupation is not the subject of a letting but someone who gained entry and is squatting. Get some more squatters in... ones you can trust to make the others leave.

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
04/10/2011 07:53

Hey Groucho, that's a really good idea....preferably squatters with very big dogs!!



DD

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
04/10/2011 09:20

Start with the biggest one and then also kick the s**t out of the rest of them.



Cockroaches and spongers of the highest order in my opinion.

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 04:46

Sazzle1b. I have made you an offer but have had NO reply?



I am prepared to SQUAT in your apartment WITH my two doberman dogs (and the other occupants!) I require a GHETTO-BLASTER on which to play my classical music at full blast for the duration of my stay there!



If you let me in with your key and I am there in residence with your permission then I cannot be breaking the law ! It will be interesting to see how long the other incumbents remain in my company! A witness should also accompany me to stop accusations of harassment or "offensive" behavior on my part !



I would NEVER allow SQUATTERS to occupy any property of mine, no matter what the law says. !



Gerry

Ralph96



Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 531

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 05:23

Drag them out. Your not in the UK.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 07:40

Take Gerry up on his kind offer....

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 07:50

I think we need to know the real circumstances as to how these 'squatters' originally gained access to the property - did 'Sazzlelb' entrust someone he thought was a 'friend' with a spare key?



Currently, we only know one side of the story!

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 10:25

It's true that we've only read one side of the story, but it seems fairly clear that the people there at present aren't legal renters, and that there are some large unpaid bills. It appears to be something of an endemic problem, and one which I, as a 'swallow', may at some stage run into, although I don't ever intend to rent my villa.



In my opinion it's a no-brainer...get in touch with birdman - I like his solution and believe it would work very quickly. In fact, I believe his kind of solution is required for a number of problems that seem to be something of a plague in TRNC...

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 12:07

What's needed is some Brisbane cops to come over and break a few heads!



I saw them in action in 'Surfers' - whacko!!!

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 00:12

sazzlelb.



Not even a thank you or by your leave for my offer so it is now rescinded !



My offer was NOT given lightly, but after much thought and you didn't even bother to respond to it with any explanation. May your squatters enjoy their stay in your property, as you have no inkling of how to remove them, even when a solution was offered for free !



Gerry

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 01:13

This week the laws have been changed , now a landlord will have a much quicker route to get tenants out of a property that he owns ,they are saying it should take no longer than 3 months.



Council of ministers decision.



The new law could of already been introduced.

Sazzlelb


Joined: 26/07/2011
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
16/11/2011 23:52

Again apologies, I haven't been on the site for a while due to lack of internet, plus giving the police time, so today is the first time I have seen the messages. Thanks for the offer anyway.

Sazzlelb


Joined: 26/07/2011
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
16/11/2011 23:53

Thanks for your patience. We were told by the police to give them a month, which is what I have reluctantly done, but very willing to accept your offer now.

Sazzlelb


Joined: 26/07/2011
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
16/11/2011 23:53

Definitely interested. Not sure how to contact you but my email address is sazzlelb@hotmail.com

Sazzlelb


Joined: 26/07/2011
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
16/11/2011 23:53

Thank you all for your replies. I haven't been online to respond for a while, but I am grateful for all offers of help.