Verdict - re watching Greek Sat TV in the UK due tomorrow

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011

So, what? you might well say..





Well IF the Portsmouth Publican is told she CAN view any EU basd sat tv package - then we can certainly watch SKY in Cyprus..



*I* think that if a private person does this this are NOT breaking the law - as SKY's Ts and Cs are not legal .. BUT.. this Publican is showing a Greek feed - to get around SKY's vastly more expensive public viewing rights rate.. and the European Courts of Justice have listened to arguments from the Premier League, FIFA , the IOC ( Intl Olympic committee ) as THEY sell rights by Country.. not EU wide..



http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/davidbond/2011/10/pubs_v_premier_league.html

gooligan


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 10:22

Just been on radio 2 that the judgement is due at 3pm today.Interesting times ahead.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 10:51

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wanderer


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 10:57

Court have just ruled in favour of the foreign decoders being used in the UK

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 10:57

Good morning, Gooligan



Thanks for the heads up..

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 10:57

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15162241



Well spotted, Wanderer

passionflower


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 10:59

RESULT IS IN THE LAND LADY HAS WON!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:01

My Goodness this is going to have MAJOR ramifications for the industry ...



Anyone what to buy a SKY receiver / subscription ? ))))))))

Kibris


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:04

mmmmm what difference will we see here though? I already watch Sky TV as do many others. I am aware there are other forms of TV here

erolz


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:05

This is really going to put the cat amongst the pigeons as far as Sat TV service in the EU goes. There are now companies around the EU that have signed contracts with content owners, be it the premier league or media companies, that grant them rights to distribute that content only in specific areas of the EU that are in breach of EU laws. Interesting times ahead.



Is there room for an appeal ? If there is I would think the premier league will be pursuing that.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:08

So with cyprus being part of the EU maybe that means we can watch OSN legally ?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:12

'A zero'..



re msg 11



I see that you have 'woken up' [ msg 3] - but - as ever - failed to pay attention in previous discussions on this topic..



OSN is NOT an EU based broadcaster - so NO ... the situation re OSN being dodgy in CY remains the same...

newlad



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:12

Does it mean i wont be able to use my beta max videos then,lol,



Paul.

erolz


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:13

OSN is not an EU company nor is it providing service in EU areas, thus it is not affected by this ruling. It still has signed agreements with content owners that limit where it can provide this content that do not include Cyprus and thus if and when it becomes aware that a given user is outside the are it has rights for it will still be obliged to terminate that service. This ruling makes no difference to that at all.



Where it does make a difference is say if Sky becomes aware someone is using their service outside the UK and Ireland but in the EU, they almost certainly now will not be able to terminate that service simply for this reason. As to if the TRNC is considered in or out of the EU in this regard is unclear.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:14

message 8



I imagine lots would like to buy a SKY receiver / subscription but do not wish one o them great big huge ugly dishes/woks )))))))))

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:17

Message 14



Cheers Erolz for a decent answer

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:19

re msg 9 Kibris



In the short-term very little difference.. but long term... there may be a huge cut in the number of companies offering PL footie and and in the medium to long term a price war from European companies.....



This may also mean that the PL and clubs are going to lose a LOT of income stream.. As it stands now a Pub doesn't HAVE to take SKY, any more..



As ErolZ says, there might be an appeal and the UK Courts now have to decide how to implement these ECJ judgement





... 'interesting times'

erolz


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:21

Msg 15 just for info I currently watch sky content online without the need for a dish at all using the sky go service and a VPN and have been for some time. Not all content is available but 90%+ is. It has live streaming of all channels subscribed to, and streaming and download options of most other content. You can pay for it monthly online without the need for any sat equipment. Before this ruling using it here was in breach of Sky's terms and conditions for such use and they actively blocked non UK / Ireland net addresses thus requiring a VPN to bypass these blocks. After this ruling it seems likely to me that they will no longer be able to make its use outside of UK / Ireland but inside the EU a breach of the terms and conditions and will not be able to bleock EU IP addresses.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:22

re 15



A 'zero'



>>I imagine lots would like to buy a SKY receiver / subscription but do not wish one o them great big huge ugly dishes/woks<<



I 'imagine' you missed the point.. a well installed 1.8m dish will 'catch' most moves / sports and other pay TV stuff from SKY - including 3D

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:26

Hi ErolZ



For users with a 'rump' RoC IP then watching SKY GO shouldn't be an issue....



Sadly, the 'TRNC' uses Turkish ones.. as you say these would exclude users in 'TRNC'



Hopefully, your ISP can 'get around' that ...

erolz


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:30

As I see it if this stands ultimately content owners, be it permier league or universal studios, will no longer be able sell rights on specific EU country basis but will have to negotiate rights with TV providers based on an EU wide license. Clearly the content owners will be seeking to gain as much revenue from these EU wide licenses as they currently get from selling country based ones but it remains to be seen if they will be able to manage that. At the moment for say the premier league, they charge much more for the exclusive rights to show it in UK than say the do in Germany. How they will sell it in the future is unlcear. Will they sell exlusive rights to one provider for the whole of the EU ?

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:32

a M re 19 wha kind of moves do you mean?



But if i wanted sky i would want all not a little bit.



so to have all it would need a great big huge dish/wok

erolz


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:32

Mark msg 20 Multimax connections already show as being based in the RoC and not Turkey on most location based systems anyway.

erolz


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:38

Msg 22 - the restrictions on sky go viewing compared to using a dish are fairly mininmal, certainly you end up with much more than a 'little bit'. 'Most' would be a more accurate description imo but yes it is true that not everything that you can get with a dish you can get online. For the current list of what you do not get online with sky go you can see here.



http://www.sky.com/mysky/mytv/skygo/blackout-messaging/index.html



Everything else you can get, based on what type of subscription you have of course.



It is horses for courses really. Internet based provision instead of a dish will not be right for everyone. However for some it make sense. Net based provision becomes even more compelling if you can 'share' an account with a dish subscriber that does not use the online service themselves.

Kibris


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:39

Message 22 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Offshore1


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:39

Key thing seems to be the viewer needs the consent of the broadcast provider. This presumably equates to a legitmate paid subscription. So no dodgy cards..............!

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:41

message 18



can i record online and watch 3D and watch 1 channel while recording another?



Or to do that would i need a great big huge wok /dish? to get 100% of the channels?

erolz


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:47

msg 27



With skygo you could record but it would require the right 'software' on your PC to be able to do it and its a bit of a faff. Ultimately you can record anything you can see on a PC screen but it does require setting up and specific software and knowing what you are doing.



Sky GO does not support 3D content, but for me that is not an issue as I do not have a 3D display anyway nor am I likely to rush out to get one either. All seesm pretty gimmicky tome tbh.



In theory if your net connection was fast enough to allow 2 simultaneous streams from sky go you could watch one thing whilst recording another but you would probably need two displays or be willing to watch in a window. Ultimately it my not be necessary as most content is available on demand. Most of what I watch via sky go is 'on demand' rahter than 'live'. In fact about the only thing I ever watch live at all is 'F1'. Pretty much everythihng else I wqatch on demand, from sky, bbc, channel 4 or elsewhere.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:49

re msg 23



That IS interesting... so it can be 'argued ' that you should not be geo blocked



I am hearing that the UK could take up to a year to adjust it's laws - but I think it HIGHLY inlikely there'll be any more attempted prosecutions



re 22



a 'zero'



Even some ( it's most, actually) of it is a LOT more than any other English lang TV offerings.. but I wouldn't expect you to have researched that before 'commenting' !!



If your recent 'legal expertise' - ( Dale Farm and EU TV rights ) is anything to go by, thing a little light reading BEFORE posting might save any embarrassment ;)

wanderer


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:50

The real cost is to the clubs Wolves Spurs £37 3pm Saturday kick off for a seat

Or £7.40 for the 3 pints to watch the match in a pub next to the ground .

Normally these 3 pm matches are not for live viewing but they are now

Sunderland are moaning that the stadium of light is not selling out as people are going to the pub to watch

Because of the recession Hartlepool's gates fell to below 3000 season ticket prices have been dropped to £100 £50 for kids

The gates are back up and they have an atmosphere in the ground and they are selling merchandise food and drink etc

There is a tipping point in any market and the premier league and football is to dear

This TV ruling will accelerate change does a basic premier league player deserve £1m a year I think not

RoxyBob


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 11:54

Once again the topic is taken over by the same self opinionated subscribers! YAWN



Bob

nicola


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 12:11

mmmmmm, does this mean that one can get sky and will not need the huge 4.2m dish to get all channels.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 12:49

Hi Nicola



you don' t NEED a 4.2m , now..



That's needed to get BBC and ITV stuff

nicola


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 12:51

mmmmmm, so the simple answer is yes, you still need a 4.2m dish if you want BBC, ITV etc.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 13:13

Nicola, re 34



If you'd asked the question - "do I still need a 4.2m to get BBC / ITV?" then the answer is.. YES.. !



HOWEVER,



1) You asked "does this mean that one can get sky and will not need the huge 4.2m dish to get all channels."



2) BBC / ITV are free - you don't NEED to pay any subscription to get them .



Even if you have a 4.2m there are some channels you can't get.. e.g. stuff broadcast from Eurobird or Vertically polarised stuff from Astra 2D





The channels that ARE available change as stuff get moved about - last month Cyprus lost the BBC interactive service and BBC News 24 to 1.8m, but those channels were replaced with more channels available to SKY paying clients..





Hope that clears this up....

nicola


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 14:19

mmmmmm, jeez you are an infuriating man, it was bloody obvious what I was asking, maybe I should have asked Mustafa, he would have given me a straight forward answer.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 14:24

Dear Nicola,re 36



I'm pleased you've decided to keep posting on here.. how would I ever have realised how 'infuriating' I can be.. ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 14:27

1 of the Ms



why do you have to be so argumentative and try to act so superior to other posters who are only seeking info !



We all understood what nicola was asking and what she meant ,and i am sure you also did .



But again you love to make the poster look incorrect when it was you who misunderstood or misread the question or you just like to be argumentative .



From 1 of the 0s )))))))

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 14:56

re msg 38



A 'zero' - never sure whether it's David or 'Amanda'



Is Nicola another one of your alter egos ?!

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 15:25

Does it really matter who is the author of the question !



Just read it ,and maybe for once in your life offer a straight answer if that is possible ;)

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 15:59

re msg 40



A Zero



the irony of being asked by you to 'be straight'.. made me smile..

Cocklebay


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 16:16

Here we go again. Night, Night all! ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

stelee77


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 16:16

Now all you need to do is see if you can get your missus to do the same thing.

Cocklebay


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 16:16

Here we go again. Night, Night all! ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 16:21

1 of the Ms



you still have not replied to the Q in post 38



Anyway



toodle pip from 1 of the 0s ;)

erolz


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 17:17

Looks like there is a bit more 'analysis' on the BBC link now



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15162241



It would seem that live transmission of games are not protected by copyright laws, which implies that things like movies which are could still be sold and restricted on a per country basis within the EU.



THen again further on the article says



"However, the court decision could have a significant repercussions for other rights holders outside of sport, with life potentially getting more difficult for the film industry, which also sells its product on an country-by-country basis."



So who knows ?



Will content owners of copyrighted works like movies still be allowed to sell such content on a country by country basis within the EU and providers limit access on that basis following this ruling or not ? Seems like no one really knows.

nicola


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 18:27

mmmmmm, I am not one of Omaintenance's alter ego's. Seems you get a few things wrong, an apology would be welcomed.

mikey53


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 20:26

An apology ???? Never !!! Think Winston Churchill saying that. Things must be quiet down Faro way as you have already done over 140 posts since September 6th (constant) ! Mark 6m, is wanted by David Cameron to fill in the position vacated by the entirely innocent and lovely person Andy Coulson not that he in any way resembles Coulson just answering Q's or not, is a hard act only those suit wearers in Government have mastered... Is your tootie better now 6m's ??? Hope so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 23:18

It just said on sky news that she can only do private showings using the greek box , does that make sense?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 23:29

re 47 - Nicola



>>mmmmmm, I am not one of Omaintenance's alter ego's. Seems you get a few things wrong, an apology would be welcomed. <<



Sorry, that was rather 'cruel'.. ;)

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 23:31

Hi ErolZ



re 46



I think I may have guessed it right in msg 1 ..



PRIVATE / home users are going to be ok ..

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
04/10/2011 23:35

You hardly guessed it right



(*I* think that if a private person does this this are NOT breaking the law )



She must use this box in her bar privately , not in a public way ,



Maybe she needs to lock the doors when using the box for her punters to watch.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 00:35

A zero - plainly clueless..



re 52



As ever, you tend to post without engaging your brain ..



READ post 1 - carefully, this time... and note I posted BEFORE the Judgement was known....





I plainly say >>*I* think that if a private person does this this are NOT breaking the law<<



A wiser person might have twigged by now.. I don't get my predictions re this industry too far wrong.. ;)

erolz


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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 01:22

I am (personaly) not interesting in what breaks the law but in what providers like sky and others will be able to put in their terms and conditions for use for the sat service and thier online services.



Currently it is in the terms of service for such things that they not be used outside a specific geographical area within the EU. Will they have to remove such terms and conditions in light of this ruling and remove the means of enforcment, like disconnection of sat based service if they dsicover it is being used outside UK/Ireland and IP blocking for the online service ?



The conected issue to this is will content owners be able to sell content to providers like sky based on geographical limits within the EU any more for non copyright material like live football or copyrighted material like movies? This connects to the question above in that it is these contracts that providers like sky say is the reason why terms and conditions limit service based on geo location within EU.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 08:28

An m,

in msg 32 nicola asked ,mmmmmm, does this mean that one can get sky and will not need the huge 4.2m dish to get 'all' channels.

Do you understand the word ALL ALL ALL ? why was your reply to her this rubbish,and again lies.

Hi Nicola







you don' t NEED a 4.2m , now. Utter Tosh (SHE SAID ALL)







That's needed to get BBC and ITV stuff , she said ALL ALL, all means all channels in any ones lanuage and in this Question , why did you then try to twist it and make it look like she had asked the question wrong, i suggest you read messages 32,33,34,and your own 35, then go and look what ALL ALL ALL means , you Obnoxious person .



Does above look familiar !



Anyway below is a better understanding than you may ever get from 1 of the Ms



http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/04102011/58/premier-league-pub-ruling-change-football-tv.html

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 09:01

re msg 54 ErolZ



I think Sky will 'wing' their way through the next two years and the PL will concentrate on the Pubs (STILL )'needing permission' to use non Sky services.



Once again, it is perfectly clear that private users taking their SKY box within the EU are within their rights.. according to this ruling.

islandgirl


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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 12:40

Obnoxious from Zero! Funniest thing on here this week!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 13:19

a zero



just noticed your latest 'attempt' at a troll post..



A good, well installed, 1.8m gets you the vast majority of SKY's pay tv services in 'TRNC' - that is a lot more channels than other offerings and it's from most folks on here's home countries...



THAT has been the case for some time.. except that following the removal of some BBC services there now more SKY pay channels, instead ..

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 18:09

Oh hello....the organ grinders monkey has chirped up .



1 of the Ms



did you read message 55

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 18:19

re 59 a zero



Yes I read msg 55 and considered it to be 'trolling' and unworthy of response - a bit like "the organ grinders monkey"



definition of a troll:



>>One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument<<



It's best not to feed trolls - and I suggest that other members try the same .....

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 18:22

Seems im picking up your bad habits me dear !

Groucho



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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 18:24

Not the grammar though...

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 18:27

Second touché in 24 hours for Groucho .... ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 18:44

whats a troll ?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b_ZwJtEC_g

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 21:11

message 58



1 of the Ms



But what if i want more than the vast majority ,what size wok do i need?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 00:14

Дуеэы ыуу црщ сфт цщкл ершы щге ж)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 11:49

это все, что греческий мне

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 12:00

Clearly 'a zero' didn't have the brain-power to work it out .....

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 12:19

Re : Msgs 66&68,



Црфе вшв нщг учзусе,



Еру йгштеуе рфы яукщ икфшт иуецуут еруь фаеук фдд!

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 12:25

1 of the Ms



66 сообщений



давайте не будем видеть, кто может решить это.



я не буду кормить тролля.



вы только что выиграли меня 20tl



Ваш ответ был, что я предсказывал

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 12:57

Сдфккшыф нщг пще ше фдд сщккусе !



Clarissa, HAS a clue.. ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 14:15

Еруку фку ыщьу ыегзшв сщцы фкщгтвю

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 14:29

re 72 Quite...



As Clarissa was quicker on the uptake you've simply confirmed it ... ))

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 14:33

Gonk.



1 of the Ms



when david is not in the office i do not have the free time you Trolls have to play with russian keypads



Does that also confirm anything

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 14:41

re 70,72,74



>>i do not have the free time<<



>>Does that also confirm anything<<



Ah, Someone ELSE using 'your' handle, as well ? ! ...

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 14:43

This thread has defo lost it's way.. but I suspect that's what was intended..

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 14:46

Yes it seems that yet again you take a thread off topic

nicola


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 14:49

m's can you tell us in laymans terms if the 4.2m dish will still be adequate now that sky is reducing its coverage on a new satellite? Here in Portugal there is talk of a 1.8m dish being required instead of 1.4m!

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 14:53

Oh i so hope that the reduced coverage also effects cyprus



So many great big ugly Woks here that blight the landscape

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 14:59

Hi Nicola



Sky have not reduced any coverage..nor have the BBC - they simply swapped transponders on different Astra satellites that a SKY dish receives from.. this made NO difference in the UK, but the BBC move means that 1.8m users in CY lost BBC stuff, ( now need a 4.2m to get the red button services / BBC News 24) but they got replaced by more SKY pay tv stuff.



There are FOUR different satellites that broadcast stuff we catch with one dish... some of those satellites have bigger footprints to allow reception in Cyprus..and others are weaker ( smaller footprints) and this often means we can't catch those channels - or you need a BIG ( 4.2m) dish



What you 'need' is specific to your location / requirement ... ( if you want BBC / ITV)



A local dish installer in Portugal can advise you better than I - unless you want to send me your co-ords by email....