Natural swimming pools - no chemicals

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 18:30

As so called 'sat experts' have been trolling my posts on sat tv stuff - and purport to not want the environment spoilt by large dishes - so I thought I might investigate -'greener solutions' - to avoid having to use swimming pool chemicals - AT ALL..



Now it seems ( in the UK ) it is possible to convert an existing swimming pool to be green and chemical free..



I wonder if this is the sort of thing folks would be interested in having in Cyprus?

stelee77


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 18:42

Hows that then?.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 18:47

It would be great.



The set up costs would help the people of cyprus if you know them so they could make a choice to move from chlorine to a chemical free pool.



I am all in favour of such new green products.



At present in cyprus i think alot of people did not ever realise the costs involved in owning a swimming pool.



Some people say they can do this with plants .



http://inspirationgreen.com/natural-pools-swimming-ponds.html

stelee77


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 18:51

I don't think that will work in cyprus, wrong climate, and it would cost to much.

I would guess it's not completely safe.

But looks the dogs bollocks.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 18:58

Stelee



That is an old system been around for many many years in some European countries ,david looked at one of these pools in Hendon about 6 years ago ,great in countries that are not so very hot ,here we would have problems keeping algea growth to a minimum .

stelee77


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:02

It would not suprise me if there were some in hendon.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:04

It seems that some public swimming pools have been converted - as well as private ones:



http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/index.htm



Apparently, Steele77, it should work in CY, and the cost really is ZERO ..

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:15

The system is 25 years old and is a nice eco system ,but i could not see any one in Cyprus taking this project on,the cost will not be ZERO ,take a look at the link i posted in message 3.



Set up costs are expensive which is a pity really and then you would have a 6 month wait time or maybe longer before the pool could be used unless that is you fit some kind of ultra violet system within the pump system.



Also im not to sure how long per day the pool pump needs to be run with this system ,if it is more than 8 hours per day then it is a no no for Cyprus with the rising electricity costs .



I was really hoping 1 of the Ms was bringing something very new and exciting to the forum but sadly it is an antique but very nice eco friendly system !

Salamisboy


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:20

Hmmmmmm - I think I sense a trap being laid here!



Anyway I have a question- here in this long summer climate how long would the pool pumps need to be kept running? I woulg guess without chemicals it would need to be 24/7 for at least 5 months, so saving the climate ecologically without chemical is offset by fuel and other costs of generating the electricity.



Sb.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:23

Dear 'a Zero'



I'm surprised you might be so dismissive.



The system isn't 25 years old - can be solar powered and the running costs in chemicals are ZERO..



Naturally, this might effect your market, so I wasn't expecting an objective response from you, David ( sorry 'Amanda'....

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:29

i have not dismissed it.



i asked you a question regarding pump running times.



i asked for set up costs?



my product is only £22 my RSP



much less if you buy in quantity.



i have said above it is a beautiful system, i am not worried,you can be very very sure of that ,and david is also not worried,that again you can take to the bank.



David went to look at one of these systems,many years ago.



i think you need to do a little more research in how old this system is





EU:



Biotop since 1984 with more than 3,500 satisfied customers. Their partner network covers 17 countries. Head Office: Austria http://www.biotop-natural-pool.com

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:30

Hi Salamis,



no 'trap'



Doing a fair bit of Solar panel biz and thought about a greener solution for swimming pool owners.. !



The concept came from the zeroes... ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:33

What was it you said 1 of the Ms



the system is not old ?



it is 25 years old Biotop since 1984 with more than 3,500 satisfied customers. Their partner network covers 17 countries. Head Office: Austria http://www.biotop-natural-pool.com



it may not use chemicals so there is a saving



set up costs could be almost the price of a 1 bedroom apartment here in TRNC

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:34

re 11 ( a zero )



I think YOU ought to do a bit more reading re VERY the research material you offered !!



Ford have been around over 100 years - do you think that means they don't have new products / new ideas ?

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:36

I shall leave you to try and convince some one here to give them a free demo if you can use there pool.



Give us a call in several years.



the ford anglier with a roof rack might be back on the roads



Good luck with your sales.



im sure it could make you alot more money than those huge WOKS you promote ;)

GinaC


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:39

What is going on here mmmmmm do you have interests in internet/tv provision and now swimming pool maintenance in TRNC or is this just more of your silly little games ?

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:44

oh look.



i just took this from the link 1 of the Ms posted in his message number 7



and he still tries to convince us,you,me, that the system is not old,maybe 25 years is not old to 1 of the Ms ,here is something i took from his link



We use the BIOTOP™ system. Thousands of Biotop pools have been built in Europe over the last 20 years. (website)



maybe there are more than 2 BIOTOP systems ;)



so im sure im am wrong



would be shocking if 1 of the Ms should ever be wrong ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:46

Boyng said zeberdi



and along comes HCLOman





soon i would think ;)

elko2



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:53

Biotop is all sales talk but no technical information for evaluation.



I have a very small pond in my front garden with some goldfish in it but I was not happy with the green algae making most fish invisible unless they came to the surface to say hello to me.



Now I have the perfect solution and crystal clear water. I have an external filter and a uv light that kills algae. I have the attached small pump running 24 hours a day but its only a small pump with a consumption of electricity probably in the region of 50 watts. the uv light is probably 20-30 watts. I can live with that.

ismet

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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 19:57

As i spoke about in my message 8



ultra violet would be the only way to keep it clear



or some form of chemical



davids product has been used here with fish in ponds.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 20:33

Hi Ismet



re 19



Which website are you looking at... *I* see plenty of tech info !



We have a large pond at mother's house that I have 'sort of inherited' the maintenance of and I fitted a UV filter and the water is now lovely and clear...



I guess I could paddle in it or immerse myself to my upper thighs - ( and be sucked to death by mad Koi carp or two) but I thought THIS thread was about swimming pools ?

stelee77


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 20:39

pool the other one





Mother must be very proud.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 20:39

re 20





A zero



To repeat I said ZERO chemicals - a natural solution ..







re 16

GinaC,



>>What is going on here mmmmmm ?<<



I am testing out the water - to see if there'd be an interest.. The Zeroes think they're sat tv 'experts ' .. I don't see you suggesting anything about 'games' to them...

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 20:48

Taken from message 1 from 1 of the Ms



I have done as you asked in message 14 and also we was all having a real good giggle at your post in post number 1,you wrote (Now it seems ( in the UK ) it is possible to convert an existing swimming pool to be green and chemical free..)

1 of the Ms,really can you honestly tell us how silly you feel after starting this topic ;) There is one thing you said in post 1 that is so very true (convert an existing swimming pool to be green)



Do you really see the good folk of TRNC and this beautiful island that you will never live on ever sliding around in one of these GREEN,and actually GREEN pools with the floor thick with green algea.



You really are much more ,ermm,im sorry there is no word to describe what im thinking.



Here's a Clue ,when you have made your first Eco pool please get your good wife to take a picture of you in your speedos and post it with all your other lovely photos ,we are dieing to see this wonderpool ;)u wish

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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 20:54

To repeat.



1 of the Ms



message 23



Are the set up costs the same as a great big WOK you promote?



Or are there no set up costs



Again im sure David will be all for this system.



These apple I phones are great.



The end of message 23 you mention games ,did i get it wrong ,i thought i was playing the games to your rules ;)



Or have you suddenly changed them to allow you to win !

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 20:57

Dear "A zero"



You [ say] you are giggling, now but you know VERY well this is a 'wake up call'



You told me not to get involved in your business - so I HAVE researched this and I HAVE got involved...



The concept works, already - for over 3,500 folks





Thanks for the idea ....

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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 21:03

1 of the Ms



you are really scraping the barrel if you really do think this could worry David .



Plus do you think his product is his only interest ;)



3500,great numbers to say its been marketed for 26 years or since 1984 ;) or is it 27 years ,129 customers per year x 27 years ,great business ,even better than selling over sized WOKS ;)



I'm going to tell David to get his thinking cap on and come up with a much bigger WOK



Thanks for the idea .... ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 21:07

message 26



1 of the Ms



Again you seem to have everything wrong it would appear !



isn't this a wake up call ;)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b_un_0U_Ts

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 21:08

This isn't about 'worrying' you, David ( sorry, 'Amanda') - it's about seeing if there's a market in Cyprus for folk who don't want to have ANY chemicals in the pool... A proper natural, green soln.



Tick, tock ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 21:16

;) :0 ;)



Above means ive just wet my pants ;)



gee 1 of the Ms



that clock must use Duracell batteries



it has been tick tock now for almost 2 years and it is still tick tocking ;)







By tomorrow can you do a little more google homework so we can play again 'same time same place'



toodle pip me dear

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 21:26

message 29



pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee



has any one got a Colostomy bag ,i cannot get to the loo quick enough with all the laughing 1 of the Ms is causing .



A proper natural Green pool (REALLY GREEN) LOOK ) 1 of the Ms posted this http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/index.htm if you get this green venture off the ground can i come and work for you ;) where's that colostomy bag 1 of the Ms ,you really have made our nights here in the TRNC where you can never ever live ;)



Is that really what you think the folk of the TRNC want for christmas ?



Back to the google drawing board mate ;0

stelee77


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 21:33

I think the fella in one of the photos has a fishing rod, or he's feeding the ducks or something.

Salamisboy


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 22:00

With respect zero I did put a post on one of your threads some weeks ago requesting details of your product. I wanted to know quantities needed for treatments, frequency, costings etc which I felt ough't to be on the website.



Your response was an invitation to call you. Guys like me, suspecting a sales pitch, are deterred, much better to see it written where it can be studied and evaluated. I am not a tree hugger, I wish to see how your product compares with what I currently use and spend at present on my pool. If it is more cost effective and helps the environment that is a bonus. Why not tell us more on your website. Reluctance to furnish that info is usually an indication of an expensive product, like you don't see a price on an Armani suit on display in an upmarket department store.



All the best,



Sb.

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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 22:07

message 1



1 of the Ms



The best advise i can offer you on David's behalf is this,



2 years ago algea was around $4 a kg ,food grade algea that is that can be sold back into the food industry because of its high omega oils content ,if you can convince all the folk of the TRNC to allow you to make there pools green so you can harvest all the algea you might just have a fledgling business in the making ,but you must promise me a %age of it or let me be your TRNC AGENT and i shall give you another idea and you can see how much you can currently sell all your algea for and start to try and produce a new form of mosquito killer ,as you will need it ;)



http://www.guernseyseafarms.com/ecotox/Algae%20price%20list.htm



WOK ON TOMMY ;) eeeee i can just see you now on the dragons den ,man who discovered huge woks makes new discovery ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 22:16

message 33



Brian ,with respect davids prices are all over the internet .



You asked many questions regarding davids product if i recall as it was me who picked up your email and emailed you back,with a little and i mean a little research you can see on this forum all of his prices.



Also that he will maintain your pool if a 8x4 for £55 per month or if a 10x5 from £65 per month



I did give you the prices of his products,what i did say was that it would be easier to explain either face to face or in a phone call as there are several different ways of using the product to suit your pocket !



His website is purely information and not a mail order website that is why there are no prices on it .



Thank you for considering a non chlorine alternative



And a happy chlorine free swimming folks

islandgirl


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 22:18

I posted some time ago and got harangued as I questioned the efficacy of the product as it has no proven track record (ie for a decent length of time) and was only available in the TRNC. So message 33 you probably got let off lightly!

islandgirl


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 22:21

Sorry multiple mmmms, you will have to try harder if you want to convince me to use anything other then Chlorine, tried, tested proven. Yes it may have some issues but we know what they are and they are still OK for UK public pools so I will stick with that.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 22:23

islandgirl



stick with what you know best girl.



crack on love

islandgirl


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 22:28

I will and that includes staying away from dodgy chemical cocktails. OK Amanda Love crack on yourself

Salamisboy


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 22:38

msg 35.



I think we must both be suffering memory lapses, perhaps it was a 'contact us' mail I sent rather than a thread post, if so I regret the mis-information but if it was a mail response to a post on here then that probably went into my spam box where I delete all without reading them I certainly have not seen any prices etc



No matter - I haven't come across your advertising here - give me a clue.



All the best,

Sb.

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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 22:42

SB



Sorry that one of the Trolls tried to hijack 1 of the Ms threads,im sure it will get bored quite quick,it normally does !



Please send an email to info@zerochlor.co.uk



I will reply again or i will resend the original email.

Salamisboy


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 23:01

Msg 41



I could do that but why not post it here, I'm sure others will be interested to know and you get an opportunity for a sales pitch, you can't beat 'free advertising'



All the best,

Sb.

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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 23:02

Salamisboy



Type the name of the product into the search box at the top of this thread



I'm sure you shall finds lots of info ,some very useful and some not so useful ,but that is the nature of this forum !



1 of the Ms , im sorry to take the thread off topic ,i would like to get back on track with your amazing 27 year old google discovery and put it to task in the TRNC , do you think we could get a grant from the EEC or EU to fund your great idea and project ? http://www.ecofinancing.co.uk/grants-available-for-your-business-become-more-eco-friendly.html





Will they give us a grant with being in the north ? How much do you think we could get ,would it be enough to finance the making of an even bigger WOK ?



Or shall we just use it to play poker with ;)

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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 23:06

David gets lots of free advertising. message 42



If you wish info please email.



Thanks for considering an alternative to chlorine.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 23:14

Hi islandgirl



I'm not trying to convince anyone.. I asked, "I wonder if this is the sort of thing folks would be interested in having in Cyprus?"



To be fair to Salamisboy and GinaC - they had me 'made' pretty quickly...



I just thought the zeroes needed a bit of their own 'medicine' re the trolling of sat tv threads..



My 'expertise' in pools really *is* only my dear Ma's Koi Carp pond ....

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 23:21

Would that medicine be Codeine based or Eco friendly Green medicine 1 of the Ms?



I do not want to take any medicine that might impair my vision and make WOKS look any more bigger than they already are ;)



Anyway i would like to get your thread back on track and not milk it for all its worth



Can you please tell me how you wish to get this ground-breaking discovery off the ground as i am really curious and might wish to like to invest 2 bob with you ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 23:39

1 of the Ms



here is 1 of your beautiful looking Eco pools that take no chemicals



i would say your right ,they look like they never had any chemicals



http://inspirationgreen.com/assets/images/Blog-Building/Pools/cl%20water%20natural%20pool.JPG



good luck with your new venture



I think a huge WOK would look great at the side of the swamp

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 23:46

Cirque du Soleil on a tour?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/10/2011 23:55

re 48 Oh you are 'cruel' - but it is wasted... ;)

deputydawg


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 01:51

I believe that natural swimming pools of affordable maintenance are a figment of the imagination. The initial filling would have to start with water of quality and every top up thereafter of equal quality so where would that guaranteed source be ? The water would contaminate from the moment the surafce was exposed to the elements and even more quickly once bathing in it commenced. A sand filter would not remove nitrates sufficiently or maintain PH levels etc. Even expensive UV lights and biological filters would not cope and the initial quality water would have to be replaced as a constant flow akin to a spring continously feeding apace a lake at one end and the same outward flow at the other into a brook or stream. I think I will stick with the uncertainties and quality variations of piped/tanker supplies and utilize backwashes and rinses in tandem with Zerochlor.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 08:21

Every thing is possible in the world of 1 of the Ms even if it is not possible.



He will be telling us all next that you never need to change ones underwear ;)



Its healthy and natural



Does not matter if they are a bit green or brown



tick tock ;)



next he will try to make you all believe this thread was just a joke and it was to have a go at my friend and it is just a wind up ,(no emotion here for eyes rolling around and looking up) In the wonderful world of 1 of the Ms he really did think this was the next generation of swimming pools for ex pats (no emotion for holding my stomach and laughing so hard and crying)

Can you imagine coming from the UK and you see your pool green, full of plants and rocks and call us to ask whats happend ,OHH DONT WORRY THIS IS 1 OF THE Ms NEW ECO POOLS ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 08:53

Extreme pool makeover,Original idea by 1 of the Ms,he is a great maan ;)



The new Eco Friendly and totally chemical free way to swim in north Cyprus.



Get yours today by calling this number 911



And you too could have 1 of the Ms new 2012 Eco pools.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebzIBiR14FM&feature=related

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 10:01

Well David has just had his first customer in the office regarding this Eco Friendly pool system advertised here by 6Ms or mmmmmm.



I could not believe it when i saw this beautiful duck waddling into the office wondering if we had started making swamps yet.



We pointed it into the direction of a council estate in Gloucestershire ;)

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 10:22

Just had a Mr Ruddy Duck visit us at our 'chav pad' in Glos'shire.. He told us that he had visited an establishment in 'TRNC' and been offered 'advise' by a short chap who was more interested in typing responses on his computer, on some forum called Cyprus44, than dealing with genuine clients..



Mr Duck enjoyed his dip (and our hospitality) and after a short sojourn made his way to nearby Slimbridge - having placed an order - of course !

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 10:56

I thought the duck may of ended up in one of those big WOKS you recommend



was Mr Ruddy a peeking duck ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 16:25

1 of the Ms .



Well your thread has now had 600 views ,so if we work on a basis of 1% actually liking your brilliant no brainer idea i should think you will have already took 6 orders ?



Shall i send you Davids bank details to deposit his commissions ?



Please let me know ASAP as the rent is due ;)

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 16:45

Actually, a zero,



It look like my little exercise has peeked the attention of a Biotop person who is shortly going to provide me with some counters to what was described as "someone either wilfully or just plain 'un-knowledgeable' on the subject" of the product...



I certainly learnt a lot, and think that SOME folk might be VERY interested in converting their pools to a totally chemical-free solution.



Those that think this means running expensive pumps are also in for a surprise.. I was...



Let's be clear.. this is not a solution for everyone.. the pool needs daily maintenance in the form of a 'robot' to ensure a bio-film can't build up and one doesn't have to have plants growing in the pool, or put up with green water... That is another option - with lower running costs - but not so practical for pool conversions.



We might all learn something of value...

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 17:59

1 of the Ms



for the 9th time what are the set up costs



We welcome the attention of Biotop and as ive said in other messages,its a good system , but not for TRNC/North cyprus ,go and try and sell it to your cronies in the south or to some of the nice council houses that are on your doorstep .



There's plenty of tree huggers and swampies around your area , you'll do alot better



lower running costs ! lower running costs than what?

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 18:08

If BIOTOP do not hurry up and come on the forum i shall post some of there costs myself just to shock the people of TRNC and to uncover more of your waffle and fibs/lies/spoof/goof/contradictions/dilussions ;)



above is again to 1 of the Ms

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 18:35

Are you all sitting down !

This is from the company mmmmmm ,6Ms , 1 of the Ms posted a link to in message 7 ,now you will see why he never told you about set up costs , pretty much like the lady in the south with the 4.2m wok



This is the part self-build information pack from Woodhouse Natural Pools for pool

projects outside the UK.

If you would like to progress to considering the style, design and cost of the pool,

please fill out the questionnaire and send up to a maximum of 10 photos and site

plan to Woodhouse Natural Pools, 74 Common Road, Weston Colville, Cambridge,

CB21 5NS. On receipt of this we will issue an invoice for £300 plus VAT. On

payment of this invoice we will send you a water testing kit and pre paid envelope

to forward samples to our specialist lab for testing. The water test is crucial in

determining whether any additional pre-filtration is required to your fill and top up

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 18:36

water.

For overseas pools a site visit will be required before a quotation can be supplied.

Site visits will be charged on total days required (inc. travelling) at our rate of £480

plus VAT, per day, plus flight & accommodation costs and expenses. Quotations

given for overseas pools will be estimated as equipment requirements and

specialist input may be required. Design input is also estimated as this varies

according to scale of project and time input required. Typically design &

supervision charges start at £4,000 plus VAT

Overseas enquiries will need to source and send samples of local clay (if available)

and filter gravel and grit sizes.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 18:39

Typical costs are on base cost for 40m2 pool (total water surface area)

INTIAL CONSULTING & QUOTATION

£300.00

£4,000.00

£16,000.00

£840.00

£480.00

£0 - £6,000

£21,620 - £27,620

ALL COSTS EXCLUDE VAT

TYPICAL COST QUOTE

TYPICAL AMOUNT FOR ESSENTIAL ITEMS

Pumps (15,000 l/h & 30,000 l/h)

ESSENTIAL ITEMS supplied by Woodhouse (cost based

on pool size & design)

Initial fill and top up phosphate filtration (subject to water test)

ADMINISTRATION COST

Charged at our rate of £240 per day to cover time spent arranging

travel, accomodation, export of materials, VAT etc.

WOODHOUSE NATURAL POOLS -PART SELF-BUILD QUOTATION

Typical costs are on base cost for 40m2 pool (total water surface area)

Includes : Initial design consultation by post / email, assess

Questionaire, 10no. max site photos submitted with site plan and

levels showing photo locations. Inc. water test and postal service.

Assesment of local filter media. Additional water tests will be charged

at £125 per set.

B

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 18:41

£21,620 - £27,620

ALL COSTS EXCLUDE VAT

TYPICAL COST QUOTE

TYPICAL AMOUNT FOR ESSENTIAL ITEMS

Pumps (15,000 l/h & 30,000 l/h)

ESSENTIAL ITEMS supplied by Woodhouse (cost based

on pool size & design)

Initial fill and top up phosphate filtration (subject to water test)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 18:43

LINING - (if supplied by Woodhouse) Can be sourced independently



Supply & hand welding on site of liner and under-liner fllece (liner protection) - TPO 1.2mm or

1mm EPDM black liner, 300g/m² fleece.















Options: Simple/Straight

£50/m2 £ -

Complex/Curved £100/m2 £ -



Mixed shapes, special liner

























colour, non-slip, steps & shallow



ESSENTIAL EQUIPMENT/MATERIALS -to be sourced locally



Filtration gravels & grit media (sourced locally if possible) Nutrient free specialist clay

(sourced locally if possible) Supply & planting of water plants

























£75/m2 £ -

















£2,000.00

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 18:44

DELIVERY - SUBJECT TO LOCATION PROVISIONAL

PROVISIONAL



Delivery of Biotop equipment and materials

Delivery of specialist filtration grits

Delivery of specialist clay Delivery of membrane & liner Delivery of plants

TRAVEL & ACCOMODATION - SUBJECT TO LOCATION/FLIGHT AVAILABILITY



£1,375.00 £ -

£875.00 £ -

£875.00 £ -

£150.00 £ -

£100.00 £ -



PROVISIONAL PROVISIONAL



























Travel & accomodation for design supervision

Travel & accomodation for essential installation of equipment

Travel & accomodation for lining Travel & accomodation for planting OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT (IF

REQUIRED)



Biotop Modular Walling - recycled plastic wall units & fixings kit



Delivery of Biotop units



Larch decking, ladders, other special features



TOTAL AMOUNT FOR ADDITIONAL ITEMS

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 18:45

74 Common Road, Weston Colville, Cambridge. CB21 5NS

Tel: 01223 290029 Email: info@naturalswimmingpools.com

Co No: 03894369 VAT No: GB 688 3696 61

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 18:48

That is just a small fraction of the costs if you wish to not use any chemicals in your pool



6Ms. 1 of the Ms, mmmmmm , MMMMMM .mark .



would you care to comment on your new found business ;)

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
07/10/2011 20:20

I'm very sorry about all the pages of info i posted a short while ago , im not so computer techy and maybe some of the figures you read made no sense.



Well my friend David has added them to photo-bucket and they are much easier to read and understand now.



1 of the Ms , 6Ms ,MMMMMM ,mmmmmm , mark .



We are still waiting for your comments regarding this great find of the century of yours and your make on the set up costs here in the link , would you like to ADD YOUR TWIST TO IT ,maybe the company have got all there prices wrong ;)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab37/zerochlor/Eco%20Pools%20By%206Ms/PartSelf-BuildTypicalcostOverseas_Page_1.jpg



When you wish to try and play with some ones business or company maybe next time you shall think longer and harder and next time maybe you will not look suck a ermmm. Sorry me cock sparrow,there are no words that describe just how foolish you really do look after posting this thread.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 20:25

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab37/zerochlor/Eco%20Pools%20By%206Ms/PartSelf-BuildTypicalcostOverseas_Page_2.jpg



http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab37/zerochlor/Eco%20Pools%20By%206Ms/PartSelf-BuildTypicalcostOverseas_Page_3.jpg



http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab37/zerochlor/Eco%20Pools%20By%206Ms/NaturalPoolBrochure2011_Page_1.jpg



http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab37/zerochlor/Eco%20Pools%20By%206Ms/NaturalPoolBrochure2011_Page_2.jpg



http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab37/zerochlor/Eco%20Pools%20By%206Ms/NaturalPoolBrochure2011_Page_3.jpg



http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab37/zerochlor/Eco%20Pools%20By%206Ms/LivingPoolbrochure2011_Page_1.jpg



http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab37/zerochlor/Eco%20Pools%20By%206Ms/Conversions_Page_1.jpg



Can you afford 1 of the Ms Eco swimming pools, Conversions from £400 a Sqm

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
07/10/2011 20:36

message 57

one of the Ms



David says to tell the folk from Biotop not to waste there time as the good people of the TRNC who yet again you have tried to con with your lies and spoof have all come wise to your games,just the same as the poor lady did in the south ,but the folk here have not lost any money to you yet but the lady from the south alleges you took alot of money from her,take a look in my cyp44 profile and you can see the link and read post number 4 or 5, you really did upset the poor lady by allegedly pilfering her bank account , so she alleges ;)



The costs of this 27 year old swimming pool concept is as i said yesterday the price of a 1 bedroom apartment here ;),i was right again,David learns me good ;)

Can you please tell the forum why again you tried to hoodwink the readers with a system that is such a high price you would not offer any of us set up costs after being asked many times ??



Was you hoping to do the same here as in the south to folk here ;)

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
07/10/2011 20:44

1 of the Ms



Next time you want to play games please choose some one who really is not as wise or street wise as my friend,David, then you might end up looking great ,i shall carry this thread on to the end with lots more evidence of your lies and spoof that you spout because i feel people really do need to understand what a nasty rotten egg you really are.

But in saying that you have brought a nice Eco system to the attention of the people of TRNC,which me and David thank you for doing so ,even though it is a very old system but very expensive to set up just to save maybe £20 a month .

Do you have any more great ideas ? you are a book of great ideas , you are the maan ,6Ms is the maan ,Dragons den is awaiting you ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 21:02

How to make your own ECO pool according to 6Ms,mmmmmm,MMMMMM.



http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/sequence1_fs.jpg



http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/sequence_2_fs.jpg



http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/sequence_3_(2)_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/sequenceliner_testing_(2)_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/sequence_3_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/sequence_4_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/steps_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/vertical_wall_construction_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/vertical_wall_construction_(2)_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/earth_wall_construction_(2)_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/earthwall_construction14-3_wall_fs.jpg

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
07/10/2011 21:07

would you spend nearly £30,000PLUS to save £20 a month ?6Ms wants you too,tell them MMMMMM mmmmmm

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/linerwelding_on_siteeDSC_0559_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/biotop_recyled_element_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/biotop_element_fs.jpg looks like you mark

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/fitting_biotop_elements_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/eath_and_b_iotop_element_construction_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/jetty_on_biotop_elements_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/biotop_carbonator_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/biotop_carbonator_(2)_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/double_phosphate_removal_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/fine_filter_skimmer_fs.jpg

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
07/10/2011 21:12

wheres the maan 6Ms,he is great,@telling you fibs ;)

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/pump_house_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/pump_house_and_services_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/silent_pump_and_fine_skimmer_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/annual_spring_cleaning_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/autun_plant_removal_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/netting_leafy_sites_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/DSC_0316_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/DSC_0342_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/jul07_pix_081_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/wills_pics_017_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/wills_pics_362_fs.jpg

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
07/10/2011 21:18

YOU TOO CAN HAVE A GREEN POOL LIKE THIS, please contact 6Ms,mmmmmm,MMMMMM for more information and a mortgage to buy such a pool,you can find him 24/7 on http://www.cyprus44.com trying to make us all believe in him ;)

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/wills_pics_019_fs.jpg

http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/p7hg_img_2/fullsize/wills_pics_364_-_Copy_fs.jpg

AND THIS WAS HIS OPENING MESSAGE ,HOW CUTE,EVERY ONE GOT REALLY EXCITED.

As so called 'sat experts' have been trolling my posts on sat tv stuff - and purport to not want the environment spoilt by large dishes - so I thought I might investigate -'greener solutions' - to avoid having to use swimming pool chemicals - AT ALL..COME LOOK AT MY SWAMP !







Now it seems ( in the UK ) it is possible to convert an existing swimming pool to be green and chemical free..DO YOU HAVE A SPARE 30K ;)







I wonder if this is the sort of thing folks would be interested in having in Cyprus?

islandgirl


Joined: 12/09/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
07/10/2011 22:12

18 posts is that a record for talking to yourself?

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
07/10/2011 22:17

)))



Islandgirl,



But look how many other posts are troll free..



This has been a brilliant plan...



Sadly, for poor old Zero, I've got a more simpler breakdown that I'll post a link to over the weekend ..

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
07/10/2011 22:19

Thats rich coming from a troll who took the time to count the posts



married life must be great



cuckoo



cuckooo



cuckoooo

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
07/10/2011 22:20

Now 1 of the Ms



would you care to tell us all the set up costs so we can all start saving £20 a month



6Ms , im talking to you boy ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 22:24

message 77, 1 of the Ms ,6Ms ,mmmmmm MMMMMM



Plan



Plan



You could not plan a phiss up in a brewery ,stop trying to kid the kidders .



We all got the feel for you now .



here is a clue



silly + more silly + mug= you guessed it ;) you

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
07/10/2011 22:30

'We' as in most of the board members are just that..... 'bored' of you and me... Only you aren't smart enough to realise when you've been totally had at your own 'sad game' ....

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 22:31

1 of the Ms.6Ms.mmmmmm,MMMMMM your message 7 is still making me hurt with laughter



It seems that some public swimming pools have been converted - as well as private ones:



http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/index.htm



Apparently, Steele77, it should work in CY, and the cost really is ZERO ..



aye,Zero change out of 30 grand ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 22:35

message 81, 1 of the Ms



Have a look in the mirror and while looking say P L O N K E R



i can imagine how great the reflection will be



he will now try to convince us all that it was his MASTER PLAN .



mark you are the maan , great maan ,mommy will mop your tears away .



So tell us great one , what other bright ideas do you have up that very long sleeve of yours ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 22:44

I can just imagine your pals AJ and DC reading your thread and thinking ,seems alot more folk have got that 1 of the Ms,6Ms,mmmmmm,MMMMMM well sussed .



I also imagine your also the laughing stock of your own little magic world.



Anyway back to the topic



can you now please tell us all about the Nil Costs involved in this great idea you posted about in message 1 , we are really wanting a laugh this evening ,come on marky mark ,fess up laad ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
07/10/2011 23:04

message 81,



speak for yourself oh bright 1

DaveBoy


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Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 01:16

Island girl...I have tried the zerochlor, but it is quite more costly in comparison to chlorine.Hence I have returned to chlorine.

babydoll


Joined: 27/07/2011
Posts: 140

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 03:46

I remember watching a program a few years back where one of thee's pools was done on a large scale in a country which was hot in the summer and had snow in the winter the country escapes me but they used it as a ice skating rink in the winter I think with a lot of research cost's could be dramatically reduced but I don't think they would be viable in cyprus.

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 07:30

Daveboy,



You are right .



Zerochlor is expensive and you do not know just what a cocktail of chemicals you are swimming in. Chlorine is tried and tested over many years.



We did try it and our swimsuits were turning yellow !



I would not support the idiotic person who sells it in TRNC personally,

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
08/10/2011 08:24

Well Mr 6Ms,1 of the Ms,mmmmmm,MMMMMM , Your post has now had 876 views , how many orders have you taken for your new wonder-pool? or is it still at the drawing board stage?



I think you had better let the Trolls just carry on using chlorine and the ones who can afford yours or other systems and yes i mean AFFORD other systems can join you or others and those who just cannot afford to jump off the sinking ship of chlorine will have to just drown in the chlorine.



Some folk here will only drink LORD JIM, why because they get a big measure and its very very CHEAP, cheap charlies drink,myself i would only drink Bombay saffire ,thank god for choice and common sense ;) some just do not have it ;)

Anyway 1 of the Ms , would you care to tell me if not the forum how this very expensive pool system which is very good might work in TRNC , because it is 2000 PLUS x more expensive than chlorine ,so your LORD JIM audience are going to struggle ;)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
08/10/2011 08:35

Message 88



David did try to explain to you how to use the product when you came in the office ,but you was one of the know it alls who did not have time to listen and said you know all about it and that your pool PH is perfect and Blaa Blaa, david asked you to take 10 mins with him to explain to you just how to use the product ,all you kept on saying was i know how to use it.



Quite an idiotic attitude if you ask me !

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
08/10/2011 08:46

message 86



DaveBoy





Joined: 02/08/2009

Posts: 168



Message Posted:

27/07/2011 10:16



Reply

Message 1 of 3 in Discussion



Has anyone any large boxes and bubblewrap available as we are relocating to Uk.



HOWS THE CHLORINE BACK IN THE UK ;)

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 08:49

vincent,message 88. I agree with you...there has been previous "wonder treatments" like poolsan and others that I have tried previously.All claimed to be eco friendly and better than using chlorine. But in the end in our case chlorine has always proved more efficient and more cost effective ( and I did listen to Davids advice and used the stuff for 8 months). My pool has never looked so clear and sparkly, I ensure I test the pool on a regular basis to maintain the appropri ph balance etc. All in all this method suits us.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 08:54

Amanda , carry on like that and David won't have any customers left , does David give you a free hand to reply to posts in any way you like ?

Simbas

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:01

Simbas



would you like to elaborate on , carry on like what? This thread was started by 1 of the Ms, it was an attempt to cause friction/problems on the forum,you are reading it wrong, please elaborate?

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:03

omaintenance or is it N "o"brain..please do not resort to your usual bullying tactics on me...



you dont know me at all!!



But I will humour you to say that I am in Lapta ...until the end of the month. I see you quote my previous threads, if you had undertaken a little more research of my previous posts you would also see that I have made it clear we havent moved yet!!



It seems you cannot help but try to "bully" anyone who dares have an opinion contrary to your own.For the record I have only stated my opinion of my personal use of zerochlor..It works but again imho it dosnt justify the price tag.Others may find it works for them...great. But do no denegrate others who do not share your undying devotion to your own product Amanda/David. If you are representative of the way your company is run by this type of constant sniping your customer base will dwindle away.



I have no agenda at all..so please dont start one.

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:04

Simbas .



I am a mirror in my answers to certain posts ,so if you read message 88 then you will see my mirror reply



I hope that clears up your doubts !

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:08

daveboy



Read the whole thread then re read this post you have just made , please do not take it off topic , this pool system that 1 of the Ms has posted about is GREAT and expensive,but still GREAT, we are waiting to see as 1 of the Ms has said to see if any folk here in the TRNC are interested in it?



There is no bully tactics , i am all for new greener solutions.



Now if you do not mind , lets get this back on topic dear boy



PS

you do not know me at all also ;)

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:09

Simbas..thankyou for your observations...a sad reflection of what a couple of individuals on here will resort to

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:09

Sorry , should have put msg 90 & 91 comments like " but you was one of the know it alls " and quite an idiotic attitude if you ask me " Just wondered if David allowed you to post without his knowledge or permission comments like that

Simbas

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:12

Did you read of all message 88 to the last few words?? simbas



goose and gander and all that malarky!!



it is a mirror of his post

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:13

This is what a moderator on another forum had to say when someone questioned them Simbas, perhaps you should try the same tactics on here.





Abuse to Admin is not permitted.



Next time you shall have a holiday.

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:16

omaintenance, i will not get into arguing on here with you...your posts are quite clear for other readers to make their own minds up..



Why you should need to quote my previous posts I do not know...you still jumped to the wrong conclusion!



If you really need to discuss this further come and have a beer at Jk's or give me a call.as i said I have no agenda...but I do have an opinion!

Cocklebay


Joined: 26/02/2011
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:16

This system has been in use on the Isle of Man for years!!!

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:22

Just a quickie, for now...



Cocklebay..



Fords have been on the roads for 100+ years, but they aren't making the model T any more... this IS a ( much) newer product.

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:25

Message 95



you say (imho it dosnt justify the price tag)



price=8x4 pool £55 per month for maintenance



price=10x5 pool £65 per month for maintenance



cheaper than alot of chlorine contracts



compared to other products in the market place it is 3 times cheaper,so if your moaning about the price of davids product but in message 92 you said you tried the wonder product POOLSAN , well did the shop you bought poolsan from have a great big window,i mean a huge window? because here are there buy on line and world prices and look at the countries it is sold in http://www.poolsanuk.com/home.php?home=yes did you clock the prices ;) even the regen £200 for 25kg. david sells at £80 . as i said,a swimming pool is expensive to run and alot never realised ,some products are only for those who can afford them !!



look at the half litre size first,then scroll down,look at the 1 litre price. and you say my product is expensive . what comes to mind is ermmm,ah never mind ,

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:36

Message 102



This thread is not about davids product



it is about the new old system 1 of the Ms,6Ms,mmmmmm,MMMMMM marky mark has posted, lets not detract from the real issue,1 of the Ms post and his new pool concept which has been around for 27 years and is a great concept,so lets keep on topic shall we.

As for Jks david may well be to busy to indulge with you,but im sure if you been suing his product you'll know where to find him to carry on your opinion.



Message 104 .Also the model T was a good product and again is very very expensive today if you can buy one but is suitable for TRNC , your concept new pool is not suited for TRNC because of costs,david is currently looking at DC pump with PV panels so pool pumps will run most of the time in daylight hours from the sun and light,he still has not got it to the price that he wants so he can offer it to the big market at an affordable price like he has with his other product and other products following soon.

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:41

His other products that are here but not going on sale just yet are going to make certain people choke on there breakfast when they see the price of the like for like product.



But for now that can stay a little secret,but only for a little time ;)

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:41

message 90.



Dave,



I have NEVER been into your shop or ever intend to.



Obviously you are confusing me with another dissatisfied customer.

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:42

resorting to insults again...I actually said that it is more expensive than chlorine, that it works, that some are happy with it...but i have found chlorine more effective and more cost effective...my opinion.



I maintain my own pool...and these are my experiences.





Have you a problem with that!!!



As you keep telling others re - read what I actually said...



my offer stands..contact me off line to discuss further...or do you just want to argue with everyone wh has a differing point of view.



"Our parent company ZEROCHLOR has an excellant reputation " - not if you keep conducting yourself in this manner...As Simbas has already stated DOES david know you are posting in this manner?



When I have met him previously he seemed a genuinel person...



Since you have joined the forum you have continually sniped at others, where do you find the time?

Arent you busy at work? Dont you like your job?



As i Said previously my offer stands..contact me off line to discuss furt

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:47

further i meant!

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:54

message 108



It is where you bought the product from !!



Lets get back on topic shall we. how much did you pay for your poolsan !



Thanks



1 of the Ms,6Ms,mmmmmm,MMMMMM,mark



Have you sorted out the costings yet for the TRNC market place for this great concept that will cost the customers ZERO,as you said ;)

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 10:11

Re message 106...are you posting as Amanda,or is it Dave? However, I am happy to debate either way if you havent the time yourself...



Funny how you manage to spend so much time posting on here, yet cant pick up a phone.



As I said I have no agenda...can you say the same?

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 10:12

David,



I said sometime over the WEEKEND.. !



I've been up early to watch the F1 qualifying and Ireland get trounced by Wales and will now retire... back to bed for a while...

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 10:17

message 112



call the office.



it is easy to find the office number

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 10:19

As you are so good at looking at old posts...my number is also freely available.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 10:20

message 113



1 of the Ms



sorry that your post here kept you up all night researching in google ;) Im sure theres plenty out there in Mr Google regarding swamps and ECO pools.



Hows button or Hamilton going to drive i wonder !

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 10:21

Message 111.



I repeat.



I have NEVER been in your shop.



My son bought it. He was wearing yellow swimming shorts !!!

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 10:23

It seems you wish to speak to david.



please find his number



did he request to speak to you????????????????????



Or am i wrong again?



can we get this back on topic,there is not many posts left in it then it comes to an end and i shall have to start a new thread for 1 of the Ms,6Ms,mmmmmm,MMMMMM,marky mark,mark

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 10:53

I offered to speak to either of you...although its you that has posted the constant diatribe...yet refuse to put your point of view in a reasonable manner. That tells me everything I need to know about you hiding behind your keyboard.



I have given my opinions based on my experience with no hidden agenda....!



Your scatter gun approach to anybody that has an alternative opinion, ridicules any so called experience you claim to have in working in property management particularly to customer services. You simply cannot tolerate other viewpoints without resorting to personal attacks



I wonder if David is aware of the potential harm to his company you are doing through your attitude to others.Read your own posts..it is not good reading.



Aghh..a phone call! David has rung me...what little use it was.

Not prepared to listen David..to any other opinion,cant see nothing wrong in the posts!! Unbelievable!!



I had a suspicion that You were probably posting as Amanda..now I believe you

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 10:56

David said I ridiculed his zerochlor...



I will state again it was just not as effective in my pool for me.Got it?



You need to consider how you represent your company when dealing with people...sadly it is lacking.



I will never but from your business again even when I return...

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 10:57

Just reading these posts and the remarks, it still saddens me that Amanda doesn't have the sales technic of a modern girl....



Amanda, do you honestly think posting like you are is doing Zero any good?



I personally would sack you, your thoughts on different matters etc should show more decorum for your boss....

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 11:01

Now watching the rugby...

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 11:22

Shall we now get this thread back on topic.



David has not wasted any money on a phone call. "Amazing"



Now 1 of the Ms , can we please get some costings done on this new super ECO pool,David already has his costings,comparisons would be great if you can offer some .



Dizzy .when people lie and insinuate then you become a mirror image of that person to that person ,you should treat people as they treat you,if they treat you with contempt then return the favour ,eye for an eye and all that malarkey springs to mind ,my comments are my own personal opinion and answers to posts that are of an attacking nature,as for 0maintenance,out of this cyber-world people get treated with respect and they get what they pay for from 2 companies who offer great customer service and as companies in a difficult market place are growing day by day regardless of the cyp44 knockers and Trolls,i hope my post is understood in the context it was wrote.No need for a reply unless it is regarding 6Ms miracle

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 12:17

Omaintenance...you are utterly unbelievable.David rang me at 1038 to discuss what you would not.We couldnt agree on anything mores the pity. He rang from inside the shop as he said he had to go as a customer was waiting.



Probably you were too busy sniping on here to deal with them...so he felt the need to fight your corner.



You lower sink to even deeper depths with your untruth...



"Our parent company ZEROCHLOR has an excellant reputation " what a farce when you act in the manner you do.



I will continue to post my opinion ignoring intimidation from yourselves...and I maintain I have no agenda!



You do your company's reputation no favours...people will form their own judgements of your postings...

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 12:54

Shall we now get this thread back on topic.





Where are you multi Ms



costings,comparisons would be great if you can offer some .



We already have a customer lined up to trial your venture



His name is swampy you can catch him on 911

stelee77


Joined: 06/06/2011
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 12:58

The op has achieved his objective in his mind.



He has no low figures to show you.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 13:15

Thanks stelee.



There is some very strange folk around isn't there !



Let the trolls voice there opinions ,they are entitled to it.



a good product speaks for its self.



Good customer service speaks for its self



cyber world is just that ,cyber world



There's many bitter people out there with to much time on there hand and a bottle of plonk in the other hand !



Strange really as it is a good system ,if you got a great big fat bank balance and love mosquitos !

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 13:22

I'm pmsl.....



"a good product speaks for its self".





"Good customer service speaks for its self "



are you in la la land....?

if a good product speaks for itself why "bully and intimidate" others that dont share your enlightened opinion.



If you really believed in your statements...act with a bit more humility and a less confrontational approach to others.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 13:25

Message 127:



"There's many bitter people out there with to much time on there hand............................."



Since you've posted approximately 70 messages on this thread alone since 18.47 on the 6th October, might you be one of those people with too much time on their hands?



Just a thought

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 13:29

Been out shopping, called for a coffee, popped in to see a friend, came back, logged in and I can't believe the Chuckle Brothers are still ranting and raving, what sad lives some people must lead.

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 13:30

Jeannie I am of the opinion that they take it in turns to post their diatribe...

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 13:32

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKSokCsWyzg

islandgirl


Joined: 12/09/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 13:36

Message 78, it does not take long to count from 1 to 18, well not form me anyway.......

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 13:43

PMSL.....lol!



"a good product speaks for its self".



"Good customer service speaks for its self "



"Our parent company ZEROCHLOR has an excellant reputation "



sinking ever lower with your continous vexatious posts....at this rate the company will have "zero reputation".



Put a sock in it and move on to something more constructive...

Cocklebay


Joined: 26/02/2011
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 15:17

Re message 104 why re-invent a trustworthy system that works perfectly well. But hey ho!, as usual mmmmmm is always right, and of course he always knows better!!

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 15:23

This is not a laughing matter daveboy



We are awaiting costings,comparisons, all would be great if you can offer some ,6Ms,MMMMMM



message 134



Please do not be so aggressive in your postings ,you cannot talk to ladies in such a way



REMEMBER , YOU MIGHT TALK TO YOUR WIFE THAT WAY



i am not your wife



so you can put that sock that you talk about you know where ... that would be more constructive and a good fit ...



He thinks we do not know he is trying his best to get the product name high in google



Happy chlorine free swimming folks



Daveboy , "sorry cyprus did not work out for you"



Hope you never blew to much !

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 15:28

David,



If the product speaks for itself, why not let it and give yourself a rest.



I think you have done yourself enough damage for today. i wonder how many existing and potential customers you have lost.



The hole is getting deep now....stop digging !

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 15:36

Vincent1.



Saturday is only half day



so we only gained 1 extra pool for maintenance today but friday we took another 2 and on monday 1 and thursday 1,we are happy just keep pecking away yavash yavash



Many more items soon for sale at prices that cannot be matched in TRNC .



Please vincent1 ,do try and address me by my correct name 0 m

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 15:40

I just scrolled down the posts not bothering to read any except the first 2-3. Is this a remake of "The Clash of the Titans", aptly named as "The clash of the Frustrated"

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 16:13

message 137



vincent1



I have said 5 times,this thread is not about davids product ,How many times do i have to tell you,please stop harping on about other products and keep the thread on topic , http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/index.htm



Now please try to keep on topic as i feel we are almost getting near the time for 6Ms to publish his costs for this chemical free pool.

that is why i am not talking about other products , i just want to keep the thread on topic , it is others with other agendas who keep taking off topic ,some folk do not like others wallowing in success .



Come on mmmmmm ,customers are waiting to know the costs to see if it is viable for the TRNC .



I hope so then we can be your TRNC agent as you will need some one here with not being able to live here yourself !!

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 16:14

Omaintenance or zerobrain whichever...



you state -



"Please do not be so aggressive in your postings ,you cannot talk to ladies in such a way" ???



I think others who read these and your previous posts will laugh their socks off at your above remark...



you have continually attacked other posters for having views different than your own ,without any justification...re read your messages, you obviously have nothing better to do than vilify and bully.



Well I'm sorry that I dont succumb to your bullying and will always have my own opinion...



Keep posting your vitriolic crap...as I said ,others will draw their own conclusions about you.



And just for the record.. you aint no lady, and certainly not any comparison to my spouse.



Keep up the good work of destroying the reputation of what appeared to be a decent business. But I suppose if you defend the indefensible behavour that you exhibit, you will reap what you sow..



You obviously have no other interests in life...

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 16:18

braindead



please keep it on topic for once will you

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 16:20

And my posting of 134 was agressive...your having a laugh!!

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 16:25

Were having a reet laugh at your expense actually



sorry cyprus did not work out for you daveboy



hope you never blew to much money



Back to topic



http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/index.htm

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 16:36

Cyprus did work for us...was a nice chapter in our lives for 6 years. but we have to go back for a while for family reasons, not that I need to explain to you...or maybe I do, a lack of family ties can do strange things to some people...they can behave in a manner similar to you, because they become bitter.



As long as we avoided self opinionated folk like you, we found very good friends for life.



Blew money...? totally irrelevant but as you asked we spent a bit and saved a lot. You can do that with half a brain you know....sorry you havent!



We'll be back next year to see if you are still posting your poison...maybe you will learn to live and let live?



Nah!!



I hope the job goes well for you...I'll continue to enjoy our retirement!

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 17:08

Enjoy your retirement!



It will do you good.



Now get back on topic can we !



6Ms ,what you doing about those costings ?

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 17:13

For a mainly natural, mainly safe, mainly no chemicals and absolutelty no cost to set up or maintain swimming option suitable to those in northern cyprus you could try looking here.



http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=35.385831,33.323507&spn=0.05598,0.090466&hnear=Da%C4%9Fyolu+Sk,+Kyrenia&t=h&z=14&vpsrc=6



It works for me anyway.

islandgirl


Joined: 12/09/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 17:17

Could you imagine trying to vacuum it though Erolz!

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 17:25

Its warmer this time of the year as well...lol

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 17:25

Post deleted , foul language will not be tolerated ............. Simbas

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 17:32

David,



HAPPY HOLIDAYS !

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 17:33

usual diatribe yet again...why dont you both do a stock check or something to keep you busy...

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 17:34

MISSING YOU ALREADY

DaveBoy


Joined: 02/08/2009
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 17:35

Justice is served me thinks

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 17:40

msg 150 , edited for reason given

Simbas

kibsolar


Joined: 14/09/2008
Posts: 552

Message Posted:
15/11/2011 16:39

what a thread.

Summary: not easy, you cannot have it all...

100% chemical-free water treatment here: http://www.necon.de , sales in TRNC: info@kibsolar.com

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
15/11/2011 16:51

You could try an Aligator!



http://www.aligator.co.uk

deputydawg


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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
15/11/2011 17:15