Good news for 1.8m dish users (re:RED button channels)

iceman


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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 17:40

Those who miss the red button channels since the loss of Ch 503 BBC News, can now access these channels by adding them to "other channels" list.

Adding procedure is simple,just use parameters below & save 6711/6712/6713/6714/6715

Frequency : 11954

Polarization : Horizontal

Symbol Rate : 27500

FEC : 2/3



Audio on some channels seem to be missing on non HD boxes, but HD boxes i tested give audio on all channels.

These channels will work on any FTA receiver including UK Freesat boxes.



BBC Sport online/red button schedule >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tv_and_radio/5345480.stm

TopTen


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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 18:16

HI Iceman, just tried above but don't seem to be able to tune it in is there something I'm missing TT

greengate8


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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 18:49

Iceman, i also tried it, but it would not allow me to change frequency - any ideas...

iceman


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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 19:02

You should be able to tune into them if you scan above parameters..

I just tested them from my home skybox and they are there..BUT for some reason i dont get any sound from some channels!!!



The "BBC streams" as they are called, are usually hidden away from skyboxes to stop people accessing them by any other way apart from red button...but for some reason they are still there since these services changed location..

iceman


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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 19:05

go to "add channels" and change frequency to 11954 Horizontal and scan...

Will be interesting to see if this lack of audio on some channels is same to everyone...

I tested on three HD boxes today and i had audio on all but now testing on my box at home the audio is not there on some!!

TopTen


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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 19:06

might sound a bit thick but by perameters you mean frequency ect - what are the 6711 ect numbers

iceman


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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 19:17

these channels are probably temporary on skyboxes so they have not been labelled with usual "Stream1" "stream2" etc name...thay are named as 6711/6712/6713/6714/6715..

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
13/10/2011 19:38

Hi Iceman



Thanks for posting this info..



In MY case on a HD box ( Thomson) I added the channels ( pressing Service, then dropping down to the middle tabbed bar and using the right arrow - to the left of select - to get to 'add channels'



Then down arror to frequency - enter the numbers 11954, then move down to the V, and move left to change to an H, then press the yellow button to 'find channels'



Use the yellow button to tick the numbers 6711/6712/6713/6714/6715 - using the down arrow under select to move to each one having seen the black tick appear - when pressing the yellow button



then press select when complete



I can then view by pressing Services, and going down to the middle tabbed bar and moving left to 'other channels' .. and choosing each number in turn, by using the select and then up / down key..



So far so good..



Tried it on a one year old Amstrad HD and it works, too



So, Iceman - what type of HD? Is it one of the new SMALLER format recording

KARY44



Joined: 30/04/2008
Posts: 326

Message Posted:
13/10/2011 19:38

Iceman

Could you tell me the frequency settings to add chanels

Itv, channel 4, have lost both from my other channels

Thanks

I got 6711>6715 audio only on 6712

iceman


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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 19:48

Gary, thx for the feedback..

ITV1 is 12402 Vertical

Channel 4 is 12480 Vertical



Mark

Did you get audio?

KARY44



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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 19:55

Iceman

Thanks, sorted

Audio only on 6712

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 20:09

Hi Mustafa



re 10



Sorry, I wasn't clear .. all working fine - WITH audio !



What unit are you trying ?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 20:14

I meant to add an apology to Salamisboy.. as he posted about this



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/75350.asp



I'm STILL of the opinion that they might not stay long..



Now..



Iceman, let's try and figure out this inconsistency re sound.. Both these are subscription units but removing the card - as one might suspect - makes no difference..

iceman


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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 20:31

I have an Amstrad DRX780UK at home and it has audio only on 6712...

Earlier i tested on 2 DRX890's with audio on all..

I also just tested on a UK Humax Freesat box and that has all the audio...

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
13/10/2011 23:19

re 13



Apologies, Mustafa, I've now tried 2 Thomson HD SKY+ and a PACE HD SKY+.. all worked..



Will test some SKY+ and other HDs over the weekend to see if there's a h/w specific correlation to the audio inconsistencies

iceman


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Message Posted:
14/10/2011 08:58

watching live coverage of the 1st practice session from the Korean Grand Prix on 6711...

snakes



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Message Posted:
14/10/2011 10:10

Hello Mustafa,

Thanks for your info ! accessed channels but only audio on 6712 ! F1 on 6711. we have pace 2600 non HD so it looks as though I'll have to stick with the bbc i player or learn to lip read unless any further suggestions (polite) please ! regards Barry

TopTen


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Message Posted:
14/10/2011 10:11

gone through all above instructions and ticked the numbers so far so good - but when I press services it asks for my pin number ( I don't have one) any suggestions TT

TopTen


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Message Posted:
14/10/2011 10:22

Sorted!!!! Thanks Iceman for the post & 6 m's for your specific instructions and just for the record I have audio on all channels TT

coffer


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Posts: 292

Message Posted:
14/10/2011 10:52

Audio on all channels!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/10/2011 14:05

Hi Guys.. presuming they're HD units.. can you press services, 0 and then 3 and tell us your model numbers from the system details page, please ?



From that I can work out the model and try to work out any correlation

james1970


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Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/10/2011 10:25

If you dont get audio on your "streams" on your SD Sky box (HDs dont seem to have the problem) , go to the system set up menu (services, 4) and change the audio language to anything other than English, save, - and you get audio back on all streams.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/10/2011 11:02

Hi James



Thanks GREAT info - many thanks.



I only hope - after all this effort - that the streams will stay long enough to enjoy this useful info !



So, now ALL SKY Boxes can get F1 !





Instructions follow for a std ( non HD) digibox or non HD SKY+ ( grey /white model )





go to Services, 4,(system setup) 4 ( add channels)



Change the frequency to 11954 - just enter the numbers using the key pad on the remote- then move down to change the V to an H, by moving the side arrow ( these surround the select button )



Move down to 'find channels' and press 'select'



You'll see the nos 6711/6712/6713/6714/6715



Tick each one by using the yellow button, then save by pressing select twice



Follow James' instructions in msg 22, then go to 'services' 'other channels' you should be able to view the BBC streams !



Press 'SKY' to get back to normal viewing





Good luck

KARY44



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Message Posted:
15/10/2011 17:21

Iceman, 6m's, James

Thanks all, up and running SD

snakes



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Message Posted:
15/10/2011 17:34

James1970 Thats great thanks a bundle just cancelled my lip reading course !! regards Barry

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 09:02

Remember. if you've got a 'small' dish you can STILL watch the F1 GP on BBC - starts soon . !

dwr6rtr


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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 20:45

i have amstrad hd+ model no R003.047.20.00P version no 4F31A2 i had no audio on the 6711 6712 6713 6714 6715 on friday or saturday but i had audio on FI day[sunday 6712] and now no audio on any. any advice mmmmmmm or iceman please?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 22:15

Hi Dave, I have NO idea why.. as my M/Room boxes HD+ and stds, are 'fine' .. I don't have this model to test :(

dwr6rtr


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Message Posted:
17/10/2011 09:15

thanks mark perhaps somone out here in TRNC can advise me like iceman perhaps





























































thanks for that reply mark, perhaps someone out here in TRNC like iceman or anybody can advise me??

dwr6rtr


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Message Posted:
17/10/2011 09:27

thanks mark perhaps somone out here in TRNC can advise me like iceman perhaps





























































thanks for that reply mark, perhaps someone out here in TRNC like iceman or anybody can advise me??

james1970


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Posts: 92

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 09:57

have you tried changing the audio settings on the sky box to something other than "english"?

Servcies, subtitles, language.

iceman


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Posts: 724

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 10:20

Seems like some models of HD boxes have no sound on some of these "BBC stream" channels and i have not been able to find a solution for this.

"BBC stream" channels are normally not available to skyboxes in the absence of an interface channel (as i mentioned on post #4) I am suprised they are still there for skyboxes....i wish they remain available for skyboxes but i am not very hopefull.

Reason some HD boxes have no audio is that audio channels are "mapped" differently on the broadcast and while some HD boxes can automatiacally tune into the audio some older boxes cant..

If "audio language" can be changed as described in msg #22 it is possible to correct this mistake but on HD boxes there is no option to change audio language.

If i find a fix for this problem i will post here.

dwr6rtr


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Message Posted:
17/10/2011 12:03

thanks iceman, much appreciated.

iceman


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Message Posted:
17/10/2011 12:14

keep in mind..any other FTA set top box can receive these channels with audio.

dwr6rtr


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Message Posted:
17/10/2011 12:19

yes thanks again iceman,i hooked my echostar box up to the 1.8 dish and all the audio channels were there,but alas not on the sky+hd job.