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Ballyboffin


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I know that 'CRIME' doesn't happen in North Cyprus?????? BUT if anyone has been a victim I'd be obliged to hear your experiences. Just to add that there is no malice in this posting.



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YES. I have a half finished villa in NC and the developer has left....



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I may be wrong but I don't think that's the kind of crime ballyboffin is referring to Kay!

I'm presuming she means theft, violence etc.

Maggie



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nah Starry - stick & stones & all that! we can take a bit of verbal abuse can't we - it just bores us to death after a while ha ha



w26kay



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So not fraud, deception and theft then?



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Sorry Kay if I semed to 'make light' of your plight. I certainly didn't mean to. All I meant was I thought perhaps ballyboffin was enquiring as to how 'safe' it was in N Cyprus, well that was how I understood it - could be wrong.

All I can say is in the Uk when on my own (hubby works away a lot) I have all doors locked at all times and very rarely venture out at night. In T.R.N.C. I spend weeks here alone and never feel scared or threatened, seldom lock the doors and often sit outside quite late at night enjoying the stars with a glass of red (or 3).

Also where I stay in T.R.N.C I often see quite small children happily going up and down to the shop on their own - you don't see that where I live in UK.

Just my interpretation of the question that's all, perhaps Ballyboffin will clarify what she meant.

All the best to you

Maggie



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Yes theft, I have a house close to Rafter's, the 14 white ( well they used to be all white) turning right from Rafter's lane onto the road where Aladdin's Cave is at the end. We have had 2 burglaries this year. Both while we were in bed. Same pattern with both, nothing disturbed but stupidly wallets and bags left on the kitchen worktops, which they raided and left. The money they took will never bring them luck................ THOUGH

If anyone hears of a ruby and diamond cluster ring (my engagement) a ruby and diamond wishbone eternity ring ,& a Bvlgari fake, for sale please let me know. Though mostly important to me is a very small and heavy plain wedding ring set with a diamond because it was my Mum's.



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OMG bb that's awful - now I will start locking up at night! The worst part is the fact you were IN at the time! scary. Hope you have some luck with getting your stuff back but unlikely. Have you tried looking round all the little second hand/antique shops in Girne?

Still you're right - they'll never have good luck with their ill gotten gains.

All the best

Maggie



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oops night night folks.....MORON ALERT!!!!!!!!



Ballyboffin


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MACKWHATEVER, Please go away. I have had such an awful time with my own problems that I can't bear your childish nonsense any more. I now know all the detecives in Girne Police Station ( God help me!)



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"Not yet but Gavin Crouch AKA groucho is about to become subject to a very violent act, I'm monitoring this forum to find his location."



Maca are you really that stupid?

It begars belief for you to openly post a threat on a public forum. Not only could you be "nicked" in the UK, but also I know a few Police Officers in NC who "would have a little word in your ear" and make life extremely difficult for you in NC too. So..... don't even go there if you want a life. OK?

Be scared, be very very scared. I know who you are.



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Come on if you think you are hard enough! My kids could see you off, you look a bit flabby in your picture ;¬)



If that's not enough I'll set young Tumay on you... ask around you'll find you've bitten off more than you can chew, which is rather a lot looking at your picture again....



I know when I'm winning when the winner of the PPP Award (piss poor poster) starts making idle threats.... rofl



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Kay don't worry he's not going to get P2P.



w26kay



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Already sorted.

You get to meet all sorts in my game and some vvv dodgy people who are only too "willing" to do favours too. It's a bit of a bonus.



w26kay



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Groucho Yer probably right ...A saddo who lives in a bedsit and eats pot noodles.



Now how long is it till the shop opens????????????????



Groucho



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Kay don't do it... make today the day you stopped... you don't need a crutch.



Just think of all the wonderful things you could do with the money...



Get you calulator up and work out the annual budget for B&H and then think on it... go on. We'll support you through the dark times... or just...



go out and buy some fags...



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In answer to the original question at the top, which is what we r all supposed to be responding to isn't it!????????

I got burgled about a yr and a half ago in Dogankoy. They broke in through my downstairs window, as in most houses they aren't fitted properly! They smashed my safe open and took what gold jewellery they could find,plus watches, mp3 player. They rumaged through all draws,wardrobes, and left a right mess! It was very disturbing and upsetting. But I must say the police were fantastic, they caught the 2 mainland turkish men,within a week, who had also done 22 other houses. I was very lucky, as I got all my jewellery back.

The two men r now in prison here, they got 7 yrs.

Now all my windows and doors are so secure I can't even get out!!!!!!!!!!!



Lilli



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h pat i am so sorry to hear that you must feel very vunerable now.i havent heard of anything like this from any of my customers, but the workers from mainland seeems to be the bad guys according to the papers. we havent been burgled only to a certain mr robb who the government allows.i do hope you ae ok cos im waiting for my soad bread lilli



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We had a Mannesmann 2.3 KVA generator nicked... it worked but was in a poor state after I foolishly lent it to our marble layers who proceeded to beat the shit out if...



w26kay



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Lilli, I'm vvv wrecked at the moment but its Soda Bread lovey. x



Groucho... they are open! Addiction is a bad bad thing!

From 1st Dec salary cut by 25% so maybe, just maybe, a smoke free zone?



w26kay



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Groucho I have a generator not using at mo if you want it?



Groucho



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Ouch that was a bad day! I see they've passed on the credit crunch to you.. "what f**king liberty" as Catherine Tate would say...



w26kay



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Precisely but the grass dont grow under these feet for long LOL



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The thiefs came in thru my upstairs patio doors after shinning up the pergola whilst out dining, stole my mobile, all my cash for the holiday and camera and 2 new lights i`d brought from England. Three nights later all the washing went off the airer and towels and swimwear went during the night. Upon my return to England an e-mail was waiting for me saying as soon as we`d left they`d thrown a rockery stone thru the downstairs window and got in again. It turns out my neighbour who was still on holiday and the only person left on the site heard the crash and chased them off. The developer refused to help to replace the window to secure the villa so i was left 2500 miles away worrying about my possesions. My kind neighbour got his maintainance man to sort it for me and i use him now. It was the first holiday we had in the new place.



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Re The Moron from Reading



It's quite usual for big mouthed pillocks like this to be just that A big mouth with no substance. I can easily have a word with my friend who is a senior police officer here and have him prevented from entering this Country on the grounds that he is wishing to commit a crime ( I have already asked my friend whether this would be the case and he assures me it is).



Otherwise Groucho if you need any help to sort out this pathetic moron let me know as I know some people here who will show him the errors of his ways for a small sum of money which will leave him able to eat only by sucking through a straw!!! The offer is there for either so I suggest this Moron apologises to Grouch and mends his ways otherwise------------



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Hi Pat



Haven't heard from you on the BB for a while. I trust you are keeping well.



Two people we know have been burgled twice in recent weeks whilst they were asleep. I do believe there is an element of targetting. In such a small community the perps. probably know who is reasonably well off and plan accordingly.



I hope my second favourite nation is in good health!



Regards

Geoff



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Quick joke to lighten things up..

Boy asks his Gran, " Have you seen my pills they were labled LSD" Gran replies, "F**k the pills have you seen the dragon in the kithchen?!"



D.N



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Now that's no way to talk about you missus Dixie ;¬)



scampy



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Hi All

I Had my house broken into last year and in the middle of the night a few night's before woke up to find a man on my balcony

Most scariest night of my life

I wouldn't wish that on anyone



The burgular got caught, took to court and got one year and then deported



Susie x



MaggieAndBernie



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Just out of interest what nationality was he Scampy?



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from Mainland Turkey



Groucho



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For balance, I was the victim of crime more often in the UK.



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msg 28



great post



i think the biggest moron is you for posting such c..p

have you ever seen anyone drinking through a straw i have

grow up you are 51 not 15



david bentley



gibson335


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daveb



You are clearly just the same type of bigmouth pillock as the the moron from Reading.( or perhaps you are him!!!!!!) as your comments are completely senseless, rather like you. Perhaps you would like to ask the police whether they will stop someone from entering if they intend to commit a crime. I can assure you they will



Meantime go away and carry on playing in your playpen.



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perhaps its you who should ask the police about paying someone to injure someone else

i dont have a big mouth like you i dont need one and no i am not him but you could be him as you have gone down to his level and below.

read what you have written this will get you into a lot of trouble



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Thanks guys for your sympathy, it's not something that I'd want to happen to anyone. Just be on your guard especially when these b@st@rds are coming in while people are asleep in bed, I worry about what they'd do if cornered.

We have now got a metal security gate on the back door, bars on the little downstair toilet window where they got in, 2 motion sensors in the house and we like everyone else in the street are closing the shutters at dusk.

It is so sad that we are now having to do all this, the police said that there was at least one incident every night and he reckons that it is the Mainland building workers who have been laid off.

Lilli, didn't get to see you in October promise soda bread in Feb AND white pud.

Geoff, Thanks for your good wishes, I am well though this curse called WORK has kept me from posting on the boards.



Please keep safe everbody.



Pat.



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Getting back to the point, i have been going to the TRNC for the last 7 years for up to 6/8 weeks a year and have found the people incredibly honest. They must have an incredibly low crime rate, whether this is fear of the Turkish justice system or a less violence inclined society i dont know. My wife feels safe at night to go out on her own, this is something which would be very dangerous to do back home in Glasgow.



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Karakum,



This time last year I would have agreed with you. Times are changing there now.



Treesy


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Sympathies with all that have had their homes violated.



Just want to point out - hundreds if not thousands of mainland turks work here - mostly manual low paid work.



The wages in Turkey suck as do the hours - my husbands 3 brothers all work

1 - in a chemist - 6 days a week and one overnight - 600 YTL a month

1 - bakery - 6 days a week 6 am - 8 pm

1 - sweet/pastry shop - 7 days a week 8am - 9 pm



So if they can come and work here its great for them as the wages are nearly double what they are in Turkey.



But as in all countries there are bad people and they too will come here - as they target all tourist places - London, Istanbul, Marmaris, Spain, Canary Islands etc....



Luckily here the police do seem to find them quickly - which is great.



As they say 'it only takes one dark cloud to ruin your day'.



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Yeh and those dark clouds ruin other peoples without thinking



I have not slept properly since finding a man on my balcony in the middle of the night

Do I feel sorry for them Hmmmm NO



Susie x



Treesy


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Susie,



you cant tar a whole nation of 71 million people with the same brush - based on the actions of one man



the same as hopefully visitors to the UK who are the victims of crime don't assume all us British are criminals,



and all men are not sex offenders/ child molesters



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Well Treesy



With that view on life and the world I hope it never happens to you

Because if it ever did,, see if you feel the same afterwards



I used to live my life on TRUST and LOYALTY



Sorry there ain't none round here gal

Susie x



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I have been the victim of a very serious crime Susie, and if I thought everyone was the same I would never had been able to live a normal life,



crimes like that do affect you of course - but you must take the positive from all situations and move on - or you will always be the victim - and that will seriously affect you all your life.



There are many wonderful honest people out there in all colours, shapes, sizes, nationalities etc and you can't let one person stop you from knowing/experiencing this or he has won and will always win.



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Apparently the median age of Turkish population is 28 - so half the population is under 28........................



so where they will all work in years to come beats me.... so expect more here - unless the island re-unifies then expect the Polish etc.........



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Well you are obviously a more forgiving woman than I am,



And it was not just one person

There was the one that was on my Balcony in the middle of the night,, Thank goodness I had locked my balcony doors because who know's what would have happened had he got in the lounge with my bedroon only feet's away



And the 2nd that broke in 3 days later and smashed my safe out of the office wall, and cost untold damage



excuse me I am a bit bitter about the whole thing



All I can say after that is thank goodness I have friends as police at Lapta, if you get my drift



Susie x



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Susie,



wasnt it the same man? I would never want to be in trouble with the police - a very frightening prospect.



Fingers crossed it will never happen again me dear - although from what you said the other day just set J on them..... she can push them over



Seriously, do hope you never have to go through that again - nor anyone else for that matter.



sorry to hear sale fallen through - fingers crossed eh.



xxx



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karakum5c: " My wife feels safe at night to go out on her own, this is something which would be very dangerous to do back home in Glasgow."



Aye, yir no' wrang there. Go to Glesca for a laugh - come back in stitches.



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Treesy,



I am certainly not saying that all Turks are thieves, merely repeating what the police said to me.



I do agree that there are other nationalities who are dishonest. Graham for one, a friendly Englishman who ran a taxi service and came back to break in houses when he had dropped the owners at the airport. I even know for a fact that while people were having a drink with him in a bar, he would excuse himself saying that he was going to the shop for fags then go and rob their houses. Hope he likes the accommodation he is now living in.



Personally, having lived through the 'troubles' in Northern Ireland and been one of the victims of a bomb near my own house, had 8 armed hold ups in my business, 4 times with a gun pressed in my back, so in the end I sold on. Each time it happened I got more and more angry, but I never have had my home burgled here in NI and that is why I feel so violated and stupid that it did happen in my house in TRNC where i was probably more relaxed.



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There is no doubt that burglary especially when it happens whilst you are asleep is a horrible crime. There are awful after effects. Luckily the police are very good at catching the persons responsible. Fraud where ones home and or life savings are taken from you is also a terrible crime with long lasting negative effects. Unfortunately far more people in NC have or are being victims of fraud, a crime that the police and authorities ignore. That fact alone can cause terrible emotional problems. It brings shame on the TRNC.



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hector: "Unfortunately far more people in NC have or are being victims of fraud, a crime that the police and authorities ignore. That fact alone can cause terrible emotional problems. It brings shame on the TRNC."



Spot on. Unfortunately much of this fraud and corruption is linked to the authorities at local level and higher. The muhtar system stinks to high heaven. Given the Turkish Cypriots don't have a police force they can call their own (TRNC police are part of the Turkish Army) those desperately seeking justice often find they have nowhere to go.



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Ballyboffin,



agreed - you never said that - i just wanted to point out to anyone who is not aware of the immigrant workforce here just how few of them actually commit crime - trying to show that the vast majority are law abiding! As are most of us.



Peace and blessings x



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of course there are crime - our friend is legist in nocosia and she very often tell us about crime in nicosia in the turkish community !



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of course there are crime - our friend is legist in nocosia and she very often tell us about crime in nicosia in the turkish community !



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PP



I have to say when all this happened to me the police were really good, as I know a lot of them anyway, The culprit was caught and brought to justice,

But we never did find out who the man was on my balcony



Treesy

Who is J and why would I need (J) to fight on my behalf ???



Susie x



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daveb



Try doing a handstand. it's easier for you to talk out of your backside that way.



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hi groucho me too thats why we came here only to get robbed in buisness.



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Keeping on track , Has any one else been the victim of crime in any way at all . ?



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hi pat so very sorry you have to endure all that, we got burguled in wales and its an awful feeling. have a great xmas and new year annd see you in feb love and irish kisses xxxx lillli



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Susie, was a joke - you said Jessica pushed you over last week !!!!! Never meant she should seriously do it!



Tricia x



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Tricia

She was playing but considering she is the same size as me she caught me off guard

Susie x

Ps She wouldn't dare



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Never been a victim of crime in NC and i hope it never happens . crime in this part of the island is rare ! But dont become Polyanna . Everytime I have been to Nc it amazes me of the trust we have with each other .(as it should be!) Lets keep it this way. Things I suppose may change with the influx of different people travelling to and fro. but the reason i think crime is so low is that the police and authoritys deal with it ! Punishment fits the crime and not to many do gooders. Just like it used to be in the UK.



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Pike thanks for recognising the TRNC .



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Rotaciser, that's a classic GOTCHA!



Reminds me of the day that Margaret Thatcher inadvertently referred to the 'Community Charge' as 'The Poll Tax' - the opposition were throwing their papers about in glee.



Keith.



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I wonder if crime is helped by some of the building practices in TRNC.



I was wondering this last week when we looked at a group of 4 nice 3 storey apartment blocks. (18 months old). Strangely they had no downpipes from the roof drains, just having a long chain with sturdy links that led from a horizontal pipe at the foot of the parapet down to ground level. What a nice handy chain to shin up to reach nearby windows !



I have seen such 'drain chains' on low industrial and farm buildings but never on housing.



A thought anyway.



guin



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I don't think the chain and what it's attached to would take a man's weight...



It would be a brave man indeed who'd put his trust in the guttering to hold him up...



Anyway simple answer... near the level he'd need to get to, fix some old razor blades.... nasty but effective....



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Thanks groucho.

Those that I have encountered in UK would take the weight as they are well anchored enabling them to take the weight of the chain encrusted with ice. But no, not a lot of ice in 90 metres elevation in Girne methinks !



But if the builder put the last link over a stub of rebar sticking out of the concrete on the roof then it could be well anchored. But its all conjecture of course.

I have seen someone climb up one on an industrial building in the UK, but it would be silly to write here just how he did it.



But if a lot of this local petty crime is in the hands of mainland building workers, then who better to know how to enter a recent building in the area than these types?

No, best not think about it.



Yes, I was the victim of crime last week. Went to the corner shop 150 yards along from the Pia Bella on the main road into the 'Turkish quarter', and when I got back to the hotel my wife saw that he had put some cigarettes on my till tab ! 5ytl to him.

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hi guin

nice to see you back. regards to the wife!



racism is a crime in the uk, unfortunatley its not in the trnc.



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scampy msg 57,



I agree with you that at operational level individual cops in north Cyprus can be great. They work in a way similar to UK police in the 70s i.e. round up suspects and apply pressure until a confession is obtained. Not good for human rights but good for results.



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Rotaciser: "Pike thanks for recognising the TRNC ."



Hi newbie. I don't know who you are, but others here can tell you I would never recognise the TRNC as a legitimate government. That said, there's no point in ignoring the clearly obvious fact that since that the Turkish authorities in the north of Cyprus have been known locally as the KKTC/TRNC since the 1980s.



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Re- message 71



I am sorry to have to agree with you but the police in the 70's did get results.

Coming from Northern Ireland I do remember the tactics of the police at Castlereagh Holding Centre, boy did they get results and there weren't any compensation claims for police brutality either. Of course these days the terrorists & criminals have their 'Human rights', so much so that the perpitrators of the most horrendous crimes have the protection of the police on their release at the taxpayers expense.



Which is best?????



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msg 58



gibson335

great post you are obviously a highly intelligent 51 year old how much would you pay to have me sorted out.



david bentley



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RE: Msg 70



Thanks FS, you may have seen me write in another post, there are a lot of mails going out today - you included.



best



guin



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ballyboffin,



Unfortunately in their haste to get results police often got it appallingly wrong and beat up innocent prisoners before fitting them up for terrible crimes. It's to be hoped corrupt filth are no longer in uniform, but we know it will always happen.



My main point is that "robust" tactics seem to work at local level in the north of Cyprus. Another example is drink driving in the TRNC. Suspects who blow positive are under arrest and off to the station to pay a fine and surrender their licence for a year. No question of court or lawyers. Maybe this is better for the greater good.





http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/14/newsid_2543000/2543613.stm



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I have to agree with Kay. All of those who have bought a property here when the vendor promised us the deeds are subject to deception against us. Those who's land their properties stand on who have now found the vendor has mortgaged the land are subject to fraud and deception. Those who have been blackmailed and threatened by their vendor are subjects of crime too. This is not just a few people, this is thousands. What is the government or police doing when these complaints come in? Nothing. This is crime on a widescale



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Breach of contract, Theft of materials, physical assault. To name a few. Police? Authorities? B*ll*x. You're a foreigner. Add "Race discrimination" to the list.



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