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Deniz1


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Message Posted:
23/10/2011 06:46

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I have been told that i will have to get a police report from the uk before applying for PTP. I have not been there for 9 years and have already got PTP for a house i previously owned and at that time did not get a police report. I have 7 years of temporary visa stamps in my passport. Any comments or other knowledge please?



cooper


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23/10/2011 07:52

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You do need to obtain PTP for every property you buy.



Details here - http://www.nmplegal.com/pdf/Guide%20to%20Basic%20Disclosure%20Certificates.pdf



Deniz1


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23/10/2011 09:03

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I know that. I am just asking as its been granted to me once before why do i need a police report from the uk. Surely this check was done the first time.



rosylee


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23/10/2011 09:18

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I think the police records are required for every new purchase.It seems to be a recent requirement as its not happened to us in the past but did happen on a change of ownership we did only last month.

Ours is not to reason why eh?



mrsgee


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23/10/2011 09:22

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I think the police report requirement came in maybe 3 or 4 years ago. We didn't need it when we made our first purchase, but the rules had changed on our second. Also, yes you need PTP for each purchase. You make the request to police station in UK under the Data Protection Access Request process, it used to cost 10 per person.



MrsSnakes



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23/10/2011 09:35

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If you google 'UK police checks for immigration' you will come accross the site 'ask the police' and there is the informations for you. Cost still 10, I downloaded the form. You could do this, attach the required copies of ID and get someone here to take it back and post it but you will need payment in stirling...They do post it abroad at no extra charge, or get it sent to a friend/relative in the UK and brought out here. Regards, Mrs Snakes.



Ed1957


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23/10/2011 09:47

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Really rather silly as some people who have a UK passport may not have set foot in the UK for 20 years, but may have been rather naughty elsewhere



MrsSnakes



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23/10/2011 09:54

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Msg 7....Maybe! a bit like peeps over 60 are considered 'safe' from infections....!!



Deniz1


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23/10/2011 14:50

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Thanks Mrs s i was worried about how to get it back here . I am not worried about the result!



philbailey


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23/10/2011 17:57

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How did mr Robb

get permission to build ?



Deniz1


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23/10/2011 20:51

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Msg 10 Whats that got to do with my question?



newscoop


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23/10/2011 21:04

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careful Mrs snakes!



you might upset a few oldies.



philbailey;



what's that got to do with her question?



philbailey


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23/10/2011 21:21

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Because if you need a clean police (uk) record

to buy a house/live there

how can someone start a business

with a out-standing warrant



Deniz1


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24/10/2011 07:27

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When he first arrived here a few years ago the laws were very lax and no checks were made.



babydoll


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24/10/2011 22:16

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deniz police checks refer to the country you have been residing in for the period of time that you declare so in your case it would be 7yrs in trnc



Deniz1


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31/10/2011 18:35

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I have looked on line and can only apply that way if i live in the uk.



ranas


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01/11/2011 12:32

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get a police report from here



crofter


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01/11/2011 13:00

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ranas...tried that way and the Council of Ministers will not accept a report from here even though we have been resident for almost 10 years. Insist on a report from UK which is ludicrous because nobody knows anything about us in UK.



Crazy system as usual.



pollymarples


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01/11/2011 19:15

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philbaiey, you little scamp - you know the answer - money money money,always money, it's a rich mans world.



Does anyone remember when they published the numbers of the approved ones and suddenly one that was only a month old would be published, yes that would have nothing to do with little brown envelopes would it?



philbailey


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01/11/2011 21:07

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Thought so

is he still in jail ?



BizziLizzi


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02/11/2011 00:27

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Surely it is because of criminals coming here thinking they are safe from extradition that the TRNC is tightening up on pemissions and residence permits etc. It is happening all the time , everywhere, that the innocent suffer for the misdeeds of the guilty.



Imlementation of the laws is another thing, but the hoops one has to go into in the UK to access one's own honestly and hard earned money are just as trying - and expensive!



Geomin


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02/11/2011 15:39

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The rule about disclosure certificates changed last month. If you are a non-TRNC citizen you can no longer submit a certificate obtained from the Police in Lefkosa. You must apply to the authorities in the country in which you are a citizen. UK citizens should apply via the website http://www.disclosurescotland.co.uk . You can either provide a "c/o" address in the UK, backdate this for one year and enter your full five year address history beginning with your current address in the TRNC. If you can't provide a "c/o" address within the UK, state your current address abroad and they will send a paper application and guidance notes to you. For more information check their website and email your queries to the given contact address.



philbailey


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03/11/2011 02:30

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So in theory you could break the law

in Cyprus

and still get a clean uk reference



is that correct ?



crofter


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03/11/2011 07:12

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philbailey.....yes exactly! That is what we said also.



Deniz1


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Message Posted:
22/11/2011 07:34

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Any one know the reference number of the form required there are many on the web site i am getting confused. Not difficult!



MrsSnakes



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Message Posted:
22/11/2011 08:35

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Deniz 1. Go to http://www.askthe.police.uk. In the top right hand corner, press 'skip to home page'. In the top right hand corner, in the search bar, put 'Q542'. This will take you to the page where you can download the form on Word or PDF, there is also a email address. Hope this helps and it is what you are looking for!



Deniz1


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22/11/2011 09:09

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Thanks Mrs Snakes i did that but there is no q 542 on the list. I have emailed them.



girne 29


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22/11/2011 15:57

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''Surely it is because of criminals coming here thinking they are safe from extradition that the TRNC is tightening up on pemissions and residence permits etc. It is happening all the time , everywhere, that the innocent suffer for the misdeeds of the guilty. ''



Rubbish,,like they didnt know about all this before. The BBC were chasing fugitives from UK, all over NC years and years ago in full view of the authorities. As for the bit about the controls being lax and thats why Gary Robb didnt need police checks.Again rubbish ,anyone that arrives in the middle of the night in a private plane and then proceeds to buy up wads of land might normally be checked. G Robb was allowed to stay because the authorities didnt have to send him back.Their choice.



Its more likely its the opposite,they need to get more money from' legitimate' buyers here to make up for less crooks coming here and the associated brown envelopes



Deniz1


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Message Posted:
26/11/2011 08:20

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back to the top.



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