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wynyardman



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24/10/2011 23:08

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Can we be quite clear here.



If you are on Exchange Land, and you have your kochan, is there still the chance that the former Greek owner

can come along, and claim his land back? If so what happens to your house?





The key words are "still a chance" As I understand it it is subject to whatever the powers may agree in the



event of a settlement to The Cyprus Problem, and as all Cyprus 44 posters know, that is any buggers guess.



Just as I see it!



wyn



dizzycows


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24/10/2011 23:16

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Well hope you got a big wheel barrow to carry yer house away then Wyn...



The GC has to go through the IPS now I do believe, or something like that... Dont worry so, you will lose your hair at this rate ...



wynyardman



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24/10/2011 23:19

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Dizzy,



Just look at me pic!



wyn



dizzycows


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ha ha ha , I did .. lol... Jeepers this forum is so heavy some times ...



spider


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Hansom wyn,



Just like our Vic..No hair.



Good people have no hair





Spider,X



Stonehousepub


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24/10/2011 23:28

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msg 1



"former Greek owner" The Greek still is the legal owner of the land your house is on.. and yes there is

"still a chance" erolz has the statistics..



Would'nt you want back what is righfully yours ??



dizzycows


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Well that counts me out then doesnt it, Iv got enough for Wyn, and others lol....



wynyardman



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Stonehousepub,



Thank you. I was just afraid that people who had their kochans were deluded to the extent that they were

misleading potential buyers. HAVING YOUR KOCHAN ON EXCHANGE LAND is not 100% safe.



Any settlement on The Cyprus Problem will determine the rights to the freehold of your land.



wynyardman



philbailey


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24/10/2011 23:54

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Msg 2, the ipc is due to close



then what?



dizzycows


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24/10/2011 23:55

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Wyn, nothing is 100% safe....



I got pregnant with 100% safe method .... Life has to be a bit risky or we would still be at our mothers breast... lol...



dizzycows


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25/10/2011 00:07

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msg 9... I dont know ...



Im not psychic,



Who knows whats around the corner, when even those in power don't know ...



EamonnMc


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Msg 5, I thought people used "Vic " to get rid of unwanted hair ?



wanderer


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When the IPC was opened it always had a time limitation as do most legal solutions so claim it or loose it that was the ECHR implied decision .The court said that the people who occupied the land had rights and to turf them out would create a worse problem today in the North so the IPC was a right and proper solution

The only thing that can trump it would be an agreed settlement by both RoC & TRNC and after nearly 40 years will that happen and would they use the IPC ruling as a basis any way

article from Cyprus Today explains

cont



wanderer


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ONLY TWO months left for Greek Cypriots, with property in the north, to apply to the Immovable Property Commission (IPC) for compensation, a human rights lawyer reminded on Wednesday. The Commission, set up by Turkey in 2006 as a domestic remedy to Greek Cypriot property claims, won’t accept any claims after December 21, this year.

The deadline has been known ever since the IPC was set up, but people had been reluctant to apply. Some did not want to have any dealings with the occupation regime, some were not prepared to give up their family property at any price, some felt that the compensation they would have been offered would be too low and others may have heeded the advice of our politicians, all of whom publicly discouraged applying on the grounds that it would harm the national cause.

There was a lively debate of the dilemma on the morning radio shows yesterday, the majority of the speakers urging people not to apply



wanderer


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Neither the lawyers nor the politicians however, were able to suggest a realistic, alternative course of action, presumably because it does not exist. There was no way Greek Cypriots would receive compensation for their properties if they did not go to the IPC.

An AKEL deputy re-iterated the tired, official line, arguing that applications to the IPC weakened our side’s bargaining power at the talks and urged property-owners to wait for a settlement. This was not a tongue-in-cheek comment, although it could have been, as a settlement is not exactly imminent, and it will certainly not be reached by the December 21 deadline. President Christofias undermined this argument a day earlier, saying after his meeting with Dervis Eroglu he was not hopeful for much progress.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/our-view-discouraging-ipc-applications-neither-helpful-nor-responsible/20111022



wynyardman



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wanderer,



Good imput, thank you. The answer is.........



IF YOU LIVE ON EXCHANGE LAND WITH YOUR KOCHAN IT IS NOT 100 % SAFE.



The Freehold of your land will be determined by the powers that be when an answer to The Cyprus



Problem, is known..



wanderer


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25/10/2011 10:17

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If no formal agreement between the two areas of Cyprus which is likely

The EHCR judgement on the IPC would form part of of an internationally agreed settlement for the two countries With a statute of limitations for Turkey agreed by the court being this December for the IPC .

The Greek Cyprus claimants will be left without any property claim unless a formal agreement is reached between both parties



girne 29


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25/10/2011 13:08

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I would say that TRNC title is safe unless a settlement is reached,which sad to say means the interests of foreign TRNC title owners is at odds with T/C's who hope for a settlement.



I wouldnt lose sleep over it, as its doubtfull if a settlement is round the corner. Even if that happened there should be plenty of notice to enable Brits to sell up to T/C's ,who will probably have their compensation penalty paid for by Turkey.



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