does anyone know anything about wells?

daffodils


Joined: 11/11/2008
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
25/11/2008 05:28

Sorry, I know this topic has been discussed before but if you are thinking of having a well, what actually happens, from start to finish and is a well sunk only if water has been found.? Also, do you have to inform the land registry?

Turbo


Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 833

Message Posted:
25/11/2008 06:02

I do believe that you need to get permission, I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. There is also something about how far it has to be from a house or from another well.



good luck

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/11/2008 06:04

they dig charge you pay a fortune they find water it last 6 months you pay more they dig again etc etc etc

goonerstan



Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
25/11/2008 07:33

you have to get permission for well , it cannot be within 10metres of somebody else well there no gaurentee, 3yrs ago appox cost was £3,000 happy digging

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
25/11/2008 08:05

If you live in a village, you will probably not get permission for a well now... unless you live quite some distance from other water wells... this is because all wells in a given area tap into the same aquifer and thus it's just another straw in the sponge that everyone uses.



The authorities are becoming quite careful about how they grant permission to dig wells and rightly so... you digging a well might mean someone else's well dries up... or the Belediye's supply dries up... which is even more important as they have to supply all the villagers.



It seems £3,000 is the going rate for a normal depth well but many recently dug have had to go really deep to find water and this has cost double.. the well has to lined etc.



If you live on the coast it's a bit dodgy too, as they may well (pardon the pun)become saline if they go below sea level...

Turbo


Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 833

Message Posted:
25/11/2008 08:13

Plus the expense of a decent pump to send the water up and of course the cost of electricity.

A tanker a week might be more cost effective and guaranteed.

brian24001


Joined: 23/03/2008
Posts: 606

Message Posted:
25/11/2008 11:48

Funny thing is, with some basic, very old oilfield technology, you can drill a well no bigger than 17" dia to a depth od say 40-50m, through some rock areas, run a steel casing to hold the water, and a descent pump and produce water all in the same day, but no-one has brought the equipment to Cyprus.

Incidentally, I was informed they must be at leats 90m part, but that may not be correct.

Unless you are going to sell some water to tankers, not really costs effective currently.

Also remebr, the water you recover is from 30m+ in depth, all the septic tanks are 10m max, i.e. above the well water so effluent can seep down in time - happy drinking!

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
25/11/2008 14:33

been quoted £4000 No water no fee.

Check quality before paying as if close to sea it can be sea water.

kibsolar


Joined: 14/09/2008
Posts: 552

Message Posted:
25/11/2008 16:59

its not that you need to "inform" the land registy and then get permission....

you need to go to the land registry together with your title deeds specify the position where you want to dig and APPLY for a well.

after granting, you can start digging.

not the other way round.



then you organise a well digger and specify your demands.

if i would be a digger i would not agree to "no water no fee"

nowadays you dont know when the water will be found.

secondly the water quality to be found (or not) is not my business.

that in cyprus water from wells is no drinking water is common knowledge, too many coli bacterias.

usually you pay per feet, see msg 3 and msg 5, that might happen.

but what it has to to with the digger msg 8?



you certainly are not permited to sell water. neither to tanks, nor to your neighbours!

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
25/11/2008 21:50

you need to get a permit for a well, your muhtar can help.

we went as deep as they could go this year, clearly seeing 2 previous water levels.

it has been very dry and lots have wells have been empty for some time.

we were advised to wait until the winter before giving up hope.

it cost us 500ytl for 68 foot in depth.

i have the number of the guy if your interested.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
26/11/2008 00:30

If you consider others!!!!!!!



You drill a well and you use to water garden, fill pool and basically use indiscriminately you are using water that others would view as their lifeline!



That water may come from aquafirs that supplies your village, so you are denying access to all of your neighbours.



There is only a finite amount of water in Cyprus and if individuals continue to take from that source eventually we will all be without water.



As an addition, it was mentioned earlier about being closer to sea level. In the south many wells were over run with salt water last year and once that happens you can never get back drinkable water. So if you are less than 50 metres above sea level, do not drill!!!!

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
26/11/2008 16:14

Kibsolar. "if I were a digger" doesnt really matter. two different companies are offering no water no cost. Havent mentioned tsting the quality yet but get the feeling this wouldnt be a problem.



CiH. agreed in somewhere which has mains water but where we are we have no chance of this.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
26/11/2008 20:27

cyprusishome,

maybe you should write to the goverment and explain this to them.

then they will stop watering the flower beds and grass lawns they have planted.

they say we are short of water but go on watering.

rollinbones


Joined: 14/11/2008
Posts: 201

Message Posted:
27/11/2008 02:38

I have just had one dug, it has a really good supply too. PM me and I will give you all the info, it cost under 2k as well including cementing the walls to the top.

Turbo


Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 833

Message Posted:
27/11/2008 04:31

Rollinbones, tdid the people that dug the well use the "diviner" thingy, where he holds the two metal rods and walks around till they both point in the same direction,,, fascinating process .

I thought it was a gimmick till he put them in my hands and for sure they moved on their own.

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
27/11/2008 14:36

Rollinbones as your e-mail isnt showing can you e-mail me details of your well diggers please?

kibsolar


Joined: 14/09/2008
Posts: 552

Message Posted:
28/11/2008 21:15

hi breezyboy msg 12,

you are right,it really doesnt matter what "i would do".

in result of "no water no cost", they will continue digging until the saltwater comes...see msg 11.



the forecast "water avaibility in the south east mediterranean" of eg the WWF does speak a clear language.

girne belediye announced that NC will be without ANY water in 2015!

maybe in 2013 the pipeline from turkey is ready, maybe turkey has not enough water for cyprus, who knows?

certainly that water will be not water for pools and flowered gardens



for many reasons the NC administration is not able to supply its citizens with an working infrastructure, people seek a form of "independence", but:

building a pool (and a house) without permission-illegal

filling or top up pools with mains water-illegal

selling (and buying) water from non commercial wells-illegal

digging wells without a permission-illegal

drain backwash pool water-illegal

watering your plants (in some areas) and wash your car-il

kibsolar


Joined: 14/09/2008
Posts: 552

Message Posted:
28/11/2008 21:16

watering your plants (in some areas) and wash your car-illegal



NC is not a country without laws, its without a working executive. that will change, slowly.

one day the fines are coming and cyprus44 is overfloating with "complaints" and "unfair" claims...



it is planned that a "water taskforce" will inspect every single property in NC.

They already filled up illegal wells and/or cut off water supply