The talks in New York - Any News?

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 17:59

I have not seen anything on the news channels.



I know that world events are somewhat overshadowing these talks on the future of Cyprus but not a peep.



Have even the news channels given up on Cyprus?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 18:51

very little reported in any newsfeeds from the south , says it all really .



get ready for the big anouncement tonight that banki moon is giving them more time to reach agreement .



what a joke eh !

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 19:01

Newlad reckons that they have nowt to talk about!



wyn

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 19:05

The team should go and watch "Much Ado About Nothing"

ismet

wanderer


Joined: 05/02/2009
Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 19:16

I hope they've taken their winter coats as there has been 30" of snow I believe it will hold up their Christmas shopping as well

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/un-says-cyprus-talks-positive-and-productive/20111031

passionflower


Joined: 20/09/2011
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 19:22

there are a vew items here about the talks ► http://bit.ly/tu3Jdf

greylag


Joined: 08/04/2009
Posts: 1110

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 19:40

"Newlad reckons they have nowt to talk about". Newlad reckons they have loads to talk about actually Lord Wynyard.Problem being,what they can agree on.Ban Ki Moon will give a press conference in the morning,



Paul.

canada


Joined: 17/05/2011
Posts: 195

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 21:28

they will come back with an agreement and a vote before the new year ,wait and see ,there is too much at stake now with the gas/oil ,enough to include turkey ,maybe via pipeline to europe .

census takers in the south and soon in the north

cypriots are motivated with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 22:39

Under the title “Three chapters are ok”, Turkish Cypriot daily Kibris (31.10.11) reports that an agreement has been reached on three chapters at the trilateral meeting taking place in New York between the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, the President of the Republic of Cyprus Demetris Christofias and the Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu.



According to the paper, the two leaders have agreed on Economy, Internal Security and the European Union, “except for some minor complications”.



The paper, citing information obtained by its general director Resat Akar, who notes that his information comes from “very reliable sources”, reports that there is consensus between the two leaders on the three above-mentioned chapters which are ready to be signed.

Bradus


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Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 22:40

As regards the economy, it has been agreed that rotating presidency will exist in the Central Bank and the Commission of the Public Service. On this issue there is a small disagreement about the duration of the term of the Turkish Cypriot president, since the Greek Cypriot side wants the Turkish Cypriot term to be shorter.



The paper also writes that a branch office of the Central Bank will be opened soon in the north.



On the issue of the EU funds, it was agreed that the two founding states will be benefited by the funds as “two separate regions”.



The two sides have also agreed on the budget of the federal state. According to the agreement, the two sides will contribute to the budget in accordance to their population. In addition, the infrastructure problems of the Turkish founding state will be faced partly by the federal’s state budget and by the EU Structural Funds.

Bradus


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Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 22:41

Euro will be the currency of the federal state. However, the Turkish lira will be in use one year after the solution.



However, the leaders have not agreed as to whether the agreement in Cyprus will become primary law of the EU.



As regards the Internal Security, two institutions will be established at a federal level. The one will be the federal police and the other will be the common investigation authority. Rotating presidency will exist in these institutions as well. However, when the president is Turkish Cypriot, the vice president will be Greek Cypriot and vice versa.



The numbers of the members of the federal police will be 500, while the number of the common investigation authority will be 300. The common investigation authority will deal with issues like terrorism, money laundry, human trafficking.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 22:43

As regards the European Union, a common committee will be established, which will be exerting the decisions of the federal government in EU decision-taking mechanisms. The committee will be consisting of four members, two Turkish Cypriots and two Greek Cypriots. Again, there will be rotation in the Brussels permanent representation office of the federal state. When the representative is Turkish Cypriot his assistant will be Greek Cypriot and vice versa.



Equal representation will take place in judiciary.



In addition, it was agreed that the “alarm bell” method will be used in case there is an important disagreement between the two sides. The “alarm bell”, which is successfully used in Belgium, will be used for example in case that draft-laws are rejected or accepted by the assembly, and a decision against any community is taken.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
31/10/2011 22:45

Finally, the paper writes that it is expected that an announcement will be made on the reaching of an agreement on these three chapters in the New York meeting. The paper also writes that there is great possibility that the difficult issues are left for an “international conference”.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
01/11/2011 00:17

well if all is as stated by brabus im GOBSMACKED ! next to nothing being reported in the souths mail or famagusta gazette over last few days ?



maybe reason for silence was they where told to say nothing untill after this new york meeting. strange though as commie chris went the the meeting maoaning about lack of agreement on anything .



andy

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
01/11/2011 00:33

Perhaps I should have put the source as Press and Information office



http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/All/19B223F8695DD45DC225793A0043FCB4?OpenDocument



Agree Andy, absolutely nothing being reported in ROC.

sporty


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 685

Message Posted:
01/11/2011 06:51

blimey!Maybe they are closer to solution than most of us thought??

Only part i dont like is going over to the euro after 12 months,what a pile of crap that currency is !!

grahamsteptoe


Joined: 22/10/2010
Posts: 110

Message Posted:
01/11/2011 08:26

'Agreement on three chapters'. Big deal!! Those are the 'easy' ones. There is a little matter of 'property rights' which is, as usual, not mentioned as there is not a hope in hell of any sort of agreement over this. So the two naughty boys will be sent back to their island and given more time to talk and disagree.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
01/11/2011 10:47

Yes the big one is property rights and also the Turkish guarantee. On property rights I expect they will have to defer to an international arbitrator to resolve this.



Looks like they have made significant progress though, and they may now have momentum and commitment on their side. They may get an agreement.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
01/11/2011 11:01

Finally, the paper writes that it is expected that an announcement will be made on the reaching of an agreement on these three chapters in the New York meeting. The paper also writes that there is great possibility that the difficult issues are left for an “international conference”.



The difficult issues of which one is Property.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
01/11/2011 11:22

The talks have now concluded.And a statement is expected some time today by Ban Ki Moon,



Paul.

newlad



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Message Posted:
01/11/2011 12:14

http://famagusta-gazette.com/reports-suggest-cyprus-talks-made-no-progress-p13377-69.htm



Looks like they will do it all again in 90 days time,



Paul.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
01/11/2011 12:15

'Have even the news channels given up on Cyprus?'



Yes.! there are a lot more things to worry about for Europe than the same old ,same old, talks between two corrupt govts .



It might sound brutal, but worrying about what happens to TRNC property and people who knowingly bought it ,is way down the list of priorities ,in present economic conditions. Surprised that a bankrupt TRNC and a eurozone ROC that has indicated it will probably need bailing out soon, are even holding talks .

Sundance


Joined: 15/07/2010
Posts: 213

Message Posted:
01/11/2011 12:51

Good post Paul, Many thanks,



Sundance

brother



Joined: 29/01/2010
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Message Posted:
01/11/2011 16:03

According to: http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus-problem/downer-talks-positive-and-vigorous/20111101



the pressure is on by stopping them talking to each other when alone



A bit like a police interview of two suspects - independently. Let's hope they don't do what the police might sometimes do by making false statements about the other party just to get a confession !?!?



In my view, we are in for another year of "talks".

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
01/11/2011 17:29

Thanks for your input everyone, very interesting to read the various viewpoints.

greylag


Joined: 08/04/2009
Posts: 1110

Message Posted:
03/11/2011 22:57

All back for the final leg in January then.