What are your views on this ?

Pipie


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Message Posted:
02/11/2011 17:26

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Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
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Message Posted:
02/11/2011 17:32

All this pressure from other countries to find a solution. They dont have to live with the consequences. Wish they would butt out.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
02/11/2011 17:44

"The presidency of the central bank of the new Cypriot state would rotate between Turkish and Greek Cypriots. And the impoverished Turkish side would receive funds from the federal state for 13 years to help resolve infrastructure problems"



I'd hate to think how the Greeks would handle the finances given the current state of affairs in the Eurozone!

BizziLizzi


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 855

Message Posted:
02/11/2011 17:53

So many people have urged meeting, summits etc for so long that when I hear of another my eyes glaze over and my brain goes into meltdown.



No real progress will be made until the rest of the world, particularly the EU and UK, stop being so blatently prejudiced for "the Greek side"



And I agree with Deniz, people with no idea of the issues and who wont have to live with the consequences are putting forward stupid ideas just to make themselves look good. Mind you that happens all the time in politics.

davpat


Joined: 23/08/2011
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Message Posted:
02/11/2011 18:10

with the euro being what it is,how on earth can anyone consider changing their currency to it?..unbelievable!

kittyfun


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Posts: 181

Message Posted:
02/11/2011 18:57

He He

Message 4 that could of been written just for message 1 poster



"And I agree with Deniz, people with no idea of the issues and who wont have to live with the consequences are putting forward stupid ideas just to make themselves look good".

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
02/11/2011 19:08

Perhaps there should be an initial referendum asking citizens on both sides the following question:



Do you want your respective leaders to work closely and studiously to achieve a settlement?



If the answer is yes then the two leaders have been given full permission to seek a settlement and the outside world then also has permission to assist in any way that is helpful. It also means that the citizens are likeley to say yes to any negotiated settlement even if they dont fully get what they want.



People should also understand that a 'no' to the above question means partition and two separate states.



What do people think?

BizziLizzi


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 855

Message Posted:
02/11/2011 22:29

kittiefun: sorry, maybe I am being thick but I dont understand what you are saying! Do you agree with me or not? And to which point?

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
03/11/2011 00:30

Re: Msg 7,



"...Do you want your respective leaders to work closely and studiously to achieve a settlement? ..."



They do, they do, they do! And you know that.

For Cypriots it is much better option to live in a federal state, than for the northern part to be annexed and become an insignificant province of Turkey.

I do sincerely hope that they will use this chance ( which looks like the last chance) this time!

BizziLizzi


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 855

Message Posted:
03/11/2011 01:29

Oh do they? Well you are entitled to your opinion!



As for "Working closely and studiously" . The leaders of the land where I was born and to which I still pay taxes have worked "closely and studiously" to achieve a lot of things which I did not want, didnt vote for, and bitterly regret.



I doubt many Cypriots were be prepared to vote to give their leaders such an open cheque.



And a "better option" to return to being second class citizens to a majority which has close links ( and some want closer) to a country on the verge of bankruptcy!

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
06/11/2011 16:58

Re: Msg 10,



Which class citizens do you think they (and you) will be if TRNC becomes a province of Turkey?

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
06/11/2011 17:52

msge 10







I would want my politicians to work closely ( collaboratively) and studiously (to work hard) at finding a solution. As constituents we cant guarantee that the output of that collaboration would be effective. Perhaps we should throw in, to work smartly, however that might be dependent on the politician selection process.



By Cypriots voting yes to my question, the politicians are granted moral authority to find a solution. They would then feel obliged to act collaboratively.



Unlike your generalised comment, in this situation, after any agreed solution the people would then either vote for or vote against the proposed solution, which may not be the case at present. So they would not have an open cheque.



In any solution of this nature, there will be winners and losers (hopefully not outright losers). If people can see that a fair process has been administered and the leaders have acted collaboratively then they might be more accepting of the outcome.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
06/11/2011 18:44

msge 9 and 11



"They do, they do, they do"



"For Cypriots it is much better option to live in a federal state, than for the northern part to be annexed and become an insignificant province of Turkey."



I am assuming that the first statement is a proven fact (a source would be useful) and the second is your wishes for the TC's?