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Izzet



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We now have 8 new members with moderator powers.



3 of them already confirmed with me today that they are happy with this and will do their best to moderate...



I will not disclose who the moderators are, but if you are a moderator and have no reason to hide it, please post on this thread!



I'll make this thread sticky for a while, and it will also be reachable through the "cyprus44" popular tag in the future.



Izzet



Turbo


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Thats great ,you need all the help you can get.

A suggestion to all of you new mods. , in future if you feel that you have to delete a whole thread, if you can show the courtesy and email the person that started the thread the reason why, it would would stop a lot of mental anguish.

Good luck to all the new moderators.

turbo



Turbo


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Am I alone in thinking about this new rule?



cyprusishome


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Totally agree. Especially so if you start an innocent thread that is seeking information but gets hijacked.



deecyprus4


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Izzet, I am wondering why moderators need to be kept secret...that I find quite disturbing..



AndyP



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Now there are more moderators, perhaps it should be made a rule (for the moderators) that not one on their own has the right to delete a thread.



Just because 1 person may not like what they have read, it should be discussed with the others and then a decision taken. Otherwise you will end up with no one being able to discuss a point of view if a particular moderator does not agree with it.



A little power is dangerous in the wrong hands!!



deecyprus4


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Andy well said..



Turbo


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Thanks for the back up guys ( in the US "guys" mean all just in case I have womens rights on my back or thread deleted for being sexist) Just want to stay on the right side of all the new mods..



jock1



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crawler...........



Harold2555



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I have no problem with revealing that I offered and Izzet accepted me as a moderator.



I would not see the need to delete a thread unless the editing of individual offensive posts was such a gargantuan task that it became impossible or impractical.



For the record I don't know who the other moderators are so the co operation suggested would be difficult.



I can't see power going to my head but if Izzet thinks it has he can remove that power and if enough members are unhappy with my actions then I will step down in any case.



I offered to help out so that Cyprus44 can remain an enjoyable place to visit for all. I enjoy being a member and hope that everyone else can continue to do so.



Paul



Harold2555



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However I have to say that the ability to edit my own posts to remove my stupid typing errors is great!



Paul



DutchCrusader



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EIGHT (8, repeat: 8!!) secret moderators for a... bulletin board!! Are they also members of the BB firing squad..?!



jock1



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Is it a case of, Dont shoot me i'm only the messenger.



mikelapta



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I notice last message was dated 30.11.08 .Did I miss the clocks/date going forward again?I had a great sleep but not for 3 days surely?



deecyprus4


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it could get funny if the mods dont no each other, editing each other i think its a secret society bells and hand shakes come to mind lol



DutchCrusader



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From now on, if you want your message published on this board you'll need a majority of five out of eight moderators. Right? Let me think, that means to 'lobby' all eight of 'em, which means at least 8x2 Efes..., which means around 64 YTL per message...



puppylover



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Good morning all.



As I have nothing to hide I am letting you know that I am one of the one's who has asked to be a moderator.



I am willing to give it a go and would ask other members to help us as well.

I understand what Andyp in msg 6 is saying but it could be a problem if some of the moderators do not wish to identify themselves to not only board members but to the other moderators.





I am one of the many who would like to get this board back to what is Izzet set it up for....Information, advice and more importantly...friendliness.

I think that most like minded members will agree that any posts that are abusive, offensive and hijacked need to be addressed straight away in order to avoid a repeat of the saga that we have all witnessed over the last week or so.

I would like to think that all members will respect others points of view and comments with out making direct attacks on the said member.



Have a nice day all.



No1Doyen


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Time will only tell if this will work properly. Personally I'm of the opinion that "too many cooks.............." I also agree with Andyp in that before any thread or message is to be deleted at least 2 Moderators should make the decision. Furthermore I think the Moderators should state the reason for any deletion.

Other than that we should just carry on as usual and enjoy what is a very good forum.



Chessman


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No 1 Doyen



Remember this from latin classes in your schooldays?



Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?



Just a light hearted comment, of course!



Harold2555



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Chessman



Izzet I suppose and popular reaction.



A Democracy of everyday in essence



P



Baspinar Bob


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MikeLapta



This thread is a sticky so stays at the top until the 30th.hope that helps.



Bob



Chessman


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Harold.



Actually, there is no answer as it is theoretically infinite. It all ends up going around in a circle. Any way as I said, it wasn't serious.



Tiggy


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I'm going to make a great moderator !



Harold2555



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Does it go round in circles or is it an infinite progression of Hierachy?



Lightheartedness taken on board



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No1Doyen


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Good Morning Chessman. Thats very true, we'll wait and see.



Chessman


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Harold



Hierachy does not necessarily have to apply. Anyway I am not going to discuss this with you anymore as I wish to keep on your good side! LOL



Godd luck, BTW



Chessman


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That should say Good luck, BTW. Freudian slip on my part, perhaps!



Harold2555



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Chessman



I agree there are much more important questions to be answered such as the next number in No 1 Doyen's progression.



In the public interest spent a long time in the pub yesterday but it failed to provide the answer and indeed seemed to impair the cognitive process somewhat!



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Chessman


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Harold.



Have you seen the answer to that? Do your duty and ban him for life!



littlenige



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27/11/2008 09:56

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good luck to all the neew mods and best of luck to Isset.



mikelapta



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tamam...I'm a newbie



No1Doyen


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Harold2555. I've posted the answer on the thread. Chessman is going to kill me!



keithcaley



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I'm happy to see the board returning to normal, and I wish that i could grant the new moderators the judgement of Soloman, but instead I'll just wish them good luck.

A moderator on another board once said to me that a moderator 'can't win' - in the sense that it is impossible to please everyone, so he just did what he thought was right.

I don't think that you could ask more of anyone, and it would be as well to recognise, before the inevitable cock-ups that we all make mistakes - even moderators, so let's all be prepared to recognise Human fallibility, and forgive when the occassion arises.

I don't see the need for a 'second opinion' - if the moderators are people who want this board to be enjoyable, and are prepared to donate their time, I think that we ought to trust their motives and their judgement - until proven otherwise!

I did suggest to Izzet that for moderators who wish to remain anonymous, that it would be a simple matter to assign usernames such as Admin1, Admin2 etc., a



batterboy58



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Can't believe that after the saga of the last week when everyone was calling for more moderators that it can now be suggested that there are too many. "Too many cooks"

Personally I wish all the new moderators well and if any of my threads were hijacked I would rather they were deleted and I could repost.



keithcaley



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create similar email accounts for them - after all the value of a moderator is in being able to contact them quickly and easily. It might even be preferable to create one email account, to which all the moderators have access...

As has been stated in the past, you cannot expect moderators to read every single post 24 hours a day, so for the system to work effectively, it is up to each and every one of us to immediately report any offensive or inappropriate postings to a moderator, and NOT to respond to the post - this simply fuels the fire as we have seen. Someone hiding behind a keyboard and a non-traceable username is simply not going to respond to pleas to desist, let alone to threats and counter insults...

Have a good day Moderators, and that goes for all the rest of you out there.



Best regards,



Keith



puppylover



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Thank you to all those who wish the new moderators well in the new task ahead.



To those that are slightly more negative in their posts....can I just ask that you give us a chance?



At the end of the day we have offered our services in the hope that this board can get back to some sort of normality.

I for one will not get anything out of it other than to contribute in whatever way I can.

Yes, there will probably be teething problems along the way and some people will probably not agree with some posts that will be deleted.



But at the end of the day you cannot please everyone all of the time....we can only do our best to try.



Have a nice day all.



britvic



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27/11/2008 12:44

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Well said Puppylover, and good luck.

Vicki



Izzet



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Keith,



I am working on that feature.



Thanks for he advice.



Izzet



Izzet



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I have carefully selected the moderators who have not been offensive in their posts so far. Some moderators were on Cyprus44 since February 2007 and some are new but at least 6 months of good postings.



So, I don't think there will be any need for a moderator to edit another moderator's post, as suggested above.



Also, I believe that moderators will not simply edit/delete a post because they don't like the idea, but they will edit/delete the posts with offensive, not-polite language.



Izzet



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I hope the increase in 'Mods' will not result in a decrease of 'Rockers'!



Every board needs some contentious, but not personal, input at times!





Rob



Groucho



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To be honest I don't think moderators should be involved in threads..



i.e. I don't think they should actively post in a thread they are also moderating... At lowest, as soon as they decide to sanction somebody they should not take any further part save possibly to explain their actions.



Otherwise there will always be room for suspicion that because "your" view does not meet with their own view of things and possibly poo-poohs their thinking you may not be allowed to air those views.



I would automatically have excluded anyone who nominated themselves...



The proof of the pudding will be in the eating.. I'm prepared for it to be humble pie...



No1Doyen


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Thats a very valid point Groucho.



keithcaley



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Even if it did end in a flurry of mixed metaphors...



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Izzet has approached me a couple of times to be a moderator - at first I politely declined but received another request this morning which I kindly accepted. I would like to see this board get back to how it was when I first joined many moons ago and I wish my fellow moderators all the best too! If it gets too much for me then I will retire back to boredhousewife!! Wishing everyone a happy and informative forum



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Keith



you've got to admit , it sounds yummy though....



DutchCrusader



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RE msg 41 by Groucho: (...) To be honest I don't think moderators should be involved in threads. i.e. I don't think they should actively post in a thread they are also moderating... (...)



===> Groucho is absolutely right. A good example can be found in threads in the past, where UKTurk regularly interfered in threads with his opinion, remarks or rebukes. For every BB with only one Forum the rule of thumb ought to, should and must be that you either write/contribute or read/moderate.



Harold2555



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Guys



The only time I would change a posting would be if it contravened the Forum Rules.



If I am posting on a thread and someone disagrees with me then I expect them to say it regardless. As far as I am concerned you can call me a blithering idiot as insuts on a forum don't bother me in the slightest. If the language used was in itself offensive then it would be a different matter but maybe then I would ask another moderator to look at it for me.



Let's suck it and see. The only reason that I contemplated Moderating was to make sure that membership and posting was an enjoyable experience for all. Over officious or petty minded moderating would defeat that object.



I will certainly never moderate a post because I disagree with the ideas contained in it.



Paul



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Well somebody has a couple of mine and wyn's have been delated



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The rules are there for all to see but I wonder how many of you have actually read them? If any of you think that any of the moderators are working outside of the rules then you contact Izzet.

Why is every one trying to turn what after all is a leisure activity into some sort of political game.

AJ



Harold2555



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Jock



Not guilty I haven't done a thing and hope I never will. If I do then I will make it clear that I have.



Love the banter between you and Wyn, it's part of what makes this board fun.



Paul



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Harrold2555....msg 47



Ditto....you and I obviously think alike.



I would like to think that if the board gets back to what is was then there will only be the odd deleting by moderators.



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...Well somebody has a couple of mine and wyn's have been delated........



What thread was that on jock1?



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harrold2555,you are a blithering idiot,there i have said it.thought i would get that in before anyone else,.......oh and welcome to the forum.



jock1 is that belated related or deleted......xxx



Harold2555



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Guess I asked for that! Good to see that humour is still with us!



(By the way whilst I can admit to being an idiot I haven't blithered for a long time!)



Paul



britvic



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I thought it was blitherin, and I think Jock means "dialated".



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britvic, dont you mean diluted and if not WHY???

paul it was on the parcel from perth thread................



britvic



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Also the "why" thread Jock, it actually ended up going on for years....Lol by the way why where you "livid" last night?



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Because, you were mad.........so i thought i would be livid.........



Izzet



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sorry but i think i'm lost in the last few posts!



britvic



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Aw god now were confusing everyone ...................again!



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Izzet



You're not the only one! Try the 11 Plus thread to get totally confused





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britvic



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msg 61 now i'm confused!



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Quote from off the internet what makes a good moderator



"Im my opinion a good mod is like a good umpire.



Never leave the game having the players and fans talking more about the umpire than the game.



A Mod should be like a busy school teacher



Lots of class"



Graham



simbas



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i was going to come clean , after my return to the uk at the w/e, and after speaking to Izzet , but i can see things have escalated so i might as well say my piece now . i have been a moderator for some time now and i have strived to be as unbiased as i possibly could be ,in fact izzet can vouch that i have turned to him for advice on many occasions i think i can say hopefully in all honesty that i have not taken part in debates that i have been moderating . as far as deleting whole threads , i am not guilty, it is very time consuming to delete each thread ,as you have to delete each post individually , also i found it near impossible to read each post and sometimes it completly overwhelms you , when i have come across some questionable posts i have edited them , but the poster probably doesnt go back to his previous posts so might not have seen them , for that i apologise and i have deleted some posts { moderators words final without notification }



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message 64 continued

if i had posted a reply you would have known who i was , and rightly or wrongly i did'nt think it served any purpose , you might not agree , as for mods working together i myself only knew of one other, no more . good luck to all the new mods ,it hasnt been an easy task but hopefully it will be a lighter load to manage now are are 8 more , i'm really sorry if anyone thinks i have been underhanded , the only thing i am sorry about is not being hard enough on some posters and should have been more aggressive in dealing with them , a mistake that will not be made again, dont think too badly of me i did it with the best intention not exposing myself

regards Patricia Bel Barko



britvic



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Sorry everyone but Flossie one of our members has a Son out in Mumbia, and is keeping everyone informed on my thread "Is the news its own worst enemy"

She is obviously upset, so I'm going to try and keep my thread up top, can we all show our support.

Thanks

Vicki



SAFFI


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Welcome back Simbas



Hope you had a great time in Ghana,



Regards



Saffi



simbas



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hi saffi , i would'nt go that far, but thanks , cant wait to get home

regards , simbas



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These are the 8 who are gonna moderate. Wasn't that Brucie?/



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Hi Simbas....I don't think you have anything to worry about and don't owe anyone an apology, simply keep up the good work. Good to see you back.



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Hello Patricia,



hope all is well with you and Bel.



Have some news for you on your return.



Regards,



Patrick



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I too have no problem in letting everyone know that I am one of the new moderators on here and I am looking forward to it after being invited by Izzet.



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Congrats to those who have come out of the moderators closet lol, so far so good.



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The lunatics have well and trully taken over the asylum!



I too have to confess to being one of the new Moderators on here, I hope I can try and engender a sense of fun as well as information on what is the fastest growing BB in North Cyprus.



Lem



britvic



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Sorry everyone but Flossie one of our members has a Son out in Mumbia, and is keeping everyone informed on my thread "Is the news its own worst enemy"



She is obviously upset, so I'm going to try and keep my thread up top, can we all show our support.



Thanks



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I dnt have any issue with any of the mods who have named themselves I wish them all well and ask all members to show them respect.



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Just to let you know I have changed my name! Now I have a job I am not such a boredhousewife! I promise I will be kind and reasonable to you all x



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izzet

full respect to you but have you lost the plot?

the board didn't didn't need more moderators ,it need better control on registering and personal details of people joining.

it also needs to deal with those who post under more than one name!



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Look Guys......Izzet has spoken.



The boards rules are quite specific. If we can't abide by the rules of the forum, we should not be posting on this board.



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Quite right Wyn,

If people step out of line the at least someone is there to deal with it.



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Turtle,



Any proposals (within the board rules) to get rid of this Motley Shower we call a Government.



Our Supreme leader has lost the plot. What can we do? All answers in a plain brown envelope.



wyn



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Wyn, did you not get the last brown envelope I sent you ?

I know it was empty as Gordon saw to that,! but at least I did send it.



Perhaps it got lost in the post, Royal Mail are good at not delivering things these days.......................only junk mail ?



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has anybody heard of the magnificent seven,but they were just a bunch of

cowboys, and now we have the magnificent eight, lets just hope that there

are more indians than chiefs this time......... as for me i,am just going back

to my wig wamm...signed.....fires blanks a member of the sioux tribe xx



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No!Doyen,



Moderation is no solution.! Compliance with the board rules should have been within each members personal conscience Still love your early morning jokes.



Personally I would have voted Blackadder as sole board moderator.



Why have some board favourites gone missing? Heard some have signed on to Nigels board



under other names!! Surprized? Nah!



wyn



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I think that this thread is getting silly.

fire starter - I agree that better control is the answer, but that means monitoring and controlling postings, and quickly responding to members reports of offensive / innapropriate postings.

It is almost impossible to control registration, or detect those posting under more than one username if they establish valid email addresses and use technical means to 'spoof' their IP address.

Wynyardman - 1)you say 'Izzet has spoken'

Well Izzet is not God, and he's not always right.

He's 24 years old, and would be foolish if he thought that he knew everything, and was not prepared to listen to advice from those with more experience. In fact he has shown that he is prepared to listen to advice, so I find your comment innapropriate.

2)You say 'the boards rules are quite specific. If we can't abide by the rules of the forum, we should not be posting on this board.'

We are talking about those who are disrupt the board and need controlling - tell THEM



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Jock!,



Good evening to you sir, It has been a beautiful day. Oh goodness me no PTP again.



My builder is a first class man, honest as the day is long. Just nipping out for a drink. I will



just have one half of Efes, so I do not disturb the drinking lobby. Please to see that the pub



is non smoking, and that wretched condom machine has been removed. Back shortly for a



vegitarian salad.



Must go, wife is waiting to welcome me to her loving arms. Toodle pip!



Oh dear this may be too personal.....OK moderators,...I am bending over...Ouch thats



better!







wyn



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keithcaley,



Board Rules......The Moderators decision is final!



wyn



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Turtle. A man of few words, but great observation!



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check out your own posts wyn'd.

why is it you don't abide by the rules?

are you one of the new moderators?



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firestarter,



Please abide by the rules, unless there will be consequences. No persoanal insults rule, has been complied with!



wyn



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Wynyardman,

I'm afraid that trotting out platitudes does not help solve the problem.

You are preaching to the converted, what we are debating is an effective way of dealing with disruptive elements in a timely manner.

Incidentally, if you are going to quote the rules at me as a way of 'rubbishing' my comments, you would do well to actually read the rules - nowhere does it say, and I quote you here; "Board Rules......The Moderators decision is final!"

Have a nice day,

Keith.



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wyn'd

you are making acusations that the 2 people are one of the same.

for pike i think that is insulting.

you may not like what he has to say, but he has never been so disgusting as mac.

you start a post and then, winge when someone says different.

why post it if you didn't want a responce?



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Firefarter,



I didnt relise that you had had a sense of humour burnout.!!!



I merely noted that a couple of members were conspicuous by their absense.



If you can stand to hear the words youve spoken,



Twisted by knaves, to make a trap for fools.



Sounds appropriate!



wyn



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wyn'd

conspicuous by their absence?

who do you think you are judge and jury?

there is no fool , like an old fool wyn'd!



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Sorry,



That went right over my head!



Conspicuious by there absense? Whats wrong with that?



Judge and Jury? What has that got to do with it? Getting personal.......



We are going to need these new moderators!



wyn not wynd!



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the proof is in the pudding , wynd.



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Wynyardman,

I believe that your message 90 breaks at least two rules: -

1) Be polite - you have DELIBERATELY mis-spelt Firestarters name in an offensive manner (there is no way that you could have accidentally mistyped an 'f' in place of an 's' and a 't'). Also you appear to be calling her either a knave or a fool, I cannot ascertain which, as your message is somewhat disjointed.

2) Keep the focus - The thread is 'Cyprus44 moderators' - what on earth has your posting to do with that?

Have a good day,

Keith.



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Keith ref message 91

"nowhere does it say, and I quote you here; "Board Rules......The Moderators decision is final!""

No but what is does say is "Respect the Moderators. Moderators have the final word"

Splitting hairs I think.

AJ



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Message 95

"Conspicuious by there absense? Whats wrong with that?"

Well, spelling for starters! ;-)

Come on, I think that this has gone far enough, we've all had a giggle, time for bed.

Sleep tight,

Keith



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He's actively posting elsewhere...



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I miss Pike



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i missed double twenty once.



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I would not miss him..........with a spear!



Mind out mow....as I'm in a moderate mood..........



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I too have apparently been made a moderator. However I am still undecided as to whether I should accept the offer or decline. I feel that Groucho has a very valid point (message 41) I am not sure if being in this positon would tend to make me sit on the fence rather than feeling comfortable in writing exactly what I think.

Can I just confirm that the other moderators are BHW, Simbas, Andyp, Izzet, uturk and ???.



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And moi!



Lem



BTW. I have not used any of my Moderator's powers as yet.



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a little me.



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Bradus, as far as I can tell, the list as revealed to us so far is: -

Andy Parish (AndyP) andy.parish - AT - systemlogix.co.uk

Erkan Ibrahim (UKTurk) erkanibrahim6 - AT - hotmail.com

Izzet Zorlu (Izzet) izzet - AT - cyprus44.com

Judy Hayward (Puppylover) judyhayward - AT - msn.com

Patricia Bel Barco (Simbas) patbelbarko - AT - hotmail.co.uk

Paul Gould (Harold555) paul - AT - fsworld.co.uk

Sue (Bradus) cyprussue - AT - gmail.com

Kevin Mitchell (Lemtich) insula.vecta - AT - btopenworld.com

& also notsoboredhosewife - no email address given

Which is 10, so there is still one to go, as we knew about Izzet & UkTurk, and Simbas has said that she was a moderator before.

I think that 's right!

Keith.



Mod Note: Emails addresses edited to prevent emails from being harvested by spam bots.



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So the definitive list of the 10 moderators is: -



Izzet, Ukturk, Notsoboredhousewife, Simbas, AndyP, Bradus, Tiggy, Harold2555, Puppylover and Lemtich.



Hopefully, that clears things up a bit. I could be wrong but I believe Izzet was including Simbas in the list of the 8 new moderators.



Lem



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I've just realised that Ii should not have posted my list which shows email addresses, have asked moderators to delete - sorry all!

Keith.



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Thanks Keith and Lemtich for confirming who the new moderators are.



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Keith



I've just glanced at the rules, I don't think posting email addresses that are already available for members to see breaks any rules.



I'm personally quite happy for mine to be posted, if there is anything you wish to discuss off board, just send an email to me.



I think the whole issue revolves around using common sense, perhaps the most uncommon of all the senses.



Lem



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All e-mail adresses are displayed on member information so I don't think this needs deleting Keith.



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Could not agree more Lem!



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Ten moderators, Ten commandments? perhaps



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Pilgrim.



Don't forget the 11th commandment!



"Thou shalt not get found out!"



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Ok,



So its coming out day!!!!!



I am the last one. Been a mod for a few months now.



Mc



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Lemtich, Bradus,

If you think it's ok, fine.

I was just concerned that email addresses are normally only visible to those who have made the required number of 'qualifying posts' - not newbies, or guests.



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MCSTEVIET,

Has something gone wrong with my arithmetic?

If you have been a moderator for a few months, then surely you are not one of the eight new moderators who have just been appointed...

Keith.



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You may wonder why I don't make my emal account visible to all and sundry on this or any other BB but I think recent events have proven this to be prudent..



I treasure my email account and as a result get virtually no spam.. the odd bit of junk but 99% is stuff I've solicited one way or another...



If someone, who's a bit of a nutter wants to get hold of my email address and start a spam-attack or even worse send viruses to me or other such cyber-terrorist activities I don't want to make it too easy.



If someone wants to contact me there are other ways like PM's on another BB. A good way of keeping a private discussion private.



I know the BBs "Edit Member Info" section recommends making it visible to other board members but although I trust all my board friends and even sparring partners like Pike not to abuse this feature... I don't want others to harvest my email and use it for some purpose other than genuine purposes.



Cont.....



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The person with whom I had a very public skirmish recently tried to goad me into revealing my email account... And for the reason that he was up to no good I did not feel comfortable doing so...



Often if I'm out and about I ask my wife to check my email just in case some info we are expecting has arrived... Imagine her distress if a piece of work like him had started bombarding me with threats via email... "I'm coming round your house now!" "I'm going to subject you to acts of violence" etc.



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Hands up.........I was only jesting to being a moderator.



Must admit I would do a good job if asked, but alas I would not have the time.



So let’s try and get on, as this forum is great when used properly.



Tiggo. (Not yet a mod) !!!!



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It must be another UK plot. Typical British arrogance to exclude other EU-citizens (from the continent and interesting islands like Ireland, Malta etc) from being "a moderator" of this board. Let's face it, for Sun readers being "a moderator" of Cyprus44 seems to be the highest goal in life, but that doesn't mean you are allowed to discriminate the foreigners*** in Cyprus.



*** When you are not British, anywhere in the world but especially in Cyprus: you are a foreigner. Right?



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Now let's see, minus one Tiggy, erm, I think that leaves us with two unknowns still, unless Lemtich was right about Simbas being included in the 'New 8'..



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Ik zal je vertellen dat ik elke dag de Guardian lees, Hans.



Lem



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Oh Dutch... you didn't really think they would let you play did you?



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Lem. I like the Guardian, maar de voorkeur geven aan de Times mezelf.



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I thought Izzet had posted asking for members to volunteer to be moderators, did you apply Dutchcrusader? and have been turned down, hence your msg123.



I am a Sunday Times girl myself.



Have a good weekend everyone.



LL



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oh no !!!!!!! even the thread about moderators needs moderating !!! no hope aint that right jock1 !!!!



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RE msg 126, Groucho : (...) Oh Dutch... you didn't really think they would let you play did you? (...)



===> Of course not, Groucho! Me notta speaka Enkliesh, so how could I be a "modaréter"? And my dogs know that I cannot even moderate myself. (PS. I would delete 98% of the postings, which would not make Izzet a happy man, would it...).



RE msg 125, Lemtich : (...) Ik zal je vertellen dat ik elke dag de Guardian lees, Hans. (...)



===> I'm proud of you, Lem! Perfect Dutch! And for The Guardian: the paper I used to work for (Het Parool, Amsterdam; for the Sun readers: Amsterdam is the capital of Holland also known as the Netherlands) and The Guardian exchanged articles on a daily basis. So The Guardian MUST be a quality paper and you must be a reader with the right state of mind...



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Yep, Lem's mind is in a right state!



Sorry Lem, couldn't resist.



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Dank je Hans. Er zijn engelse die maar een taal spreken maar er zijn ook anderen welke meer dan een taal spreken!



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Thank you joandjelly



Ho, Ho, Ho



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Bl@@dy Hell,



He thinks he's Santa now!



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Lem, are you alright? By the way I'll have a train set and a colouring book



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I think it's gone to his head!



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I've got some very sad news for you lot.!



Father Christmas does not exist!



Even if he did, he wouldn't be much cop.



He only came once a year and that was down a chimney!



Lem



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Do you mean I won't be getting the train set and colouring book?



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Yep! Got it in one.



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You wait 'till I tell the Fairies about this!



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Lem



He may only come once a year but when he does he fills your stockings!



Paul



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He may only come once a year but when he does he fills your boots!



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and puts abig hole in your bank account!!!



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That'll put the cookie amongst the crumble



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No1Doyen,

Don't go bringing the Fairies into this, especially that tooth fairy!

I don't trust her at all - I reckon if she ain't got the right change, she just pulls another tooth out!





(apologies to Terry Pratchet)



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Or if you can't afford enough she just slackens them!



(apologies to Bobby Thompson)



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Seems like it's now death by a thousand cuts....



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no i am not a new moderator



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Neither am I



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I am one of the new moderators but would like to remain anonymous.



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I have also been asked by Izzet to become a moderator - so I guess that's your 'new 8' moderators - mystery solved!



ltd



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All moderators will be duly elected by the moderators.



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i am not a moderator are you ?



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How many moderators does it take to change a light bulb?



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Keep it clean please people, you are being watched.

Nige sorry new rules, no pictures of people with moustaches are allowed anymore please remove it as many find it offensive.



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Go on Val44.



How many moderators does it take to change a lightbulb?



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Okay, lets turn the question on its head.



How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?



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Give up?



Well lets see...........



How many forum members does it takes to change a light bulb?





1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed

14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently

7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs

1 to move it to the Lighting section

2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section

7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs

5 to flame the spell checkers

3 to correct spelling/grammar flames

6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid

2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"

15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct

19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum



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11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum

36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty

7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs

4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's

3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group

13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"

5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy

4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"

13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs"

Lem



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Oh and I forgot to add

1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again.



Lem



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29/11/2008 21:01

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It only takes 1 moderator to change a light bulb.

As long as he/she is intelligent.



Lemtich



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Thank you Valery



Most kind.



Lem



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Lemtich, You are now banned for using the word "stupid" and I also believe you are hiding a moustache behind your hand.



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Oh my Gawd! I'm going to have to moderate myself now!



I'll be asking myself some pretty searching questions later, how did you know about the moustache?



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How did I know about the moustache? My wife uses the same technique to hide hers. I am still waiting on confirmation from the other 27 (now) moderators of your ban or we can take your orange stars away and replace them with black ones, jury's still out.



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Val44

You forgot to mention - "and the light bulb really has to want to change"

Keith.



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There is definitley something wrong with the maths on this thread either that or the e-mail that Izzet sent around had the wrong number of 8 possible moderators!!!!!



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Where can I buy or borrow a new or used light bulb in Northern Cyprus?



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Do you mean 'Lamp'?

(that's Dutch by the way)



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RE msg 169, Keithcaley : (...) Do you mean 'Lamp'? (that's Dutch by the way) (...)



===> A lamp (English) is indeed a lamp (Dutch). But, Keith, the question in your interesting message is absolutely based on a complete technical misunderstanding. This is a serious matter for me and that's why I'll explain it to you. A light bulb is not just a lamp but an electric lamp as one in which a filament gives off light when heated to incandescence by an electric current — called also incandescent lamp. I think.



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cyprusishome

Ref posting 167.

My understanding of Izzet's message was that 8 new members had been been given moderator status which does not include existing moderators (who knows how many) and obviously now more than the first 3 mentioned in his message have accepted the challenge and one or two have not (trawl thru previous postings) so how anyone can come to any conclusion about the amount of confirmed active moderators on this board beats me.

AJ



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i don't understand why people are trying to find who the moderators are..



most already defined themselves..



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"...so how anyone can come to any conclusion about the amount of confirmed active moderators on this board beats me.



AJ"



The only certainty is that, in keeping with the ethos of this board, quality is compromised for the sake of quantity.



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29/11/2008 22:44

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So we are all okay on the light bulb issue, now?



I like it when we all agree.



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29/11/2008 22:49

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RE msg 174, Lemtich : (...) So we are all okay on the light bulb issue, now? (...)



===> Heck, no! Only when you publicly state that *I* am right.



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Hi Izzet,

My original intention was simply to try and confirm who the Moderatots are, for a very simple reason, which is: -

If you (we, that is) know who the moderayors are, we can see if there are any actually logged on to the board in case of 'trouble' - and if there aren't, and we know the email addresses of the moderators, then we can email them.

The benefits of a moderator lie in his/her accessiblity - in my opinion.

I must admit that it has turned into a rather harmless game, and now that we know (or THINK we know) who most of the moderators are, there are increasingly diminishing returns - apart from the pleasure inherent in ANY game, - that is, actually putting the last piece of the jigsaw in place!

Sorry if it's getting on your nerves, or other people's, but the board is still functioning normally, with only the odd Family Squabble.

Best regards,

Keith.



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edmund

Ref your message 173, as PVT Pike would say "where is your evidence to support your statement"

Why does every one get so worked up (with the exception of Lem) about a simple thing like a bulletin board. All I can say is that your lives must be so complicated that you all feel the need to vent your anger on what is after all just pages of text. Or do you all feel that this board gives you some power that you don't have in your everyday lives.

Sad

AJ



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Okay Hans



You are right, in Dutch a lamp or gloeilamp is a lamp that casts its illumination by means of an incandescent filament. In English, a lamp could be an oil lamp or candle lit lamp.



Is everybody okay with that, are we in agreement?



Lem



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29/11/2008 23:07

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RE msg 178, Lemtich : (...) Is everybody okay with that, are we in agreement? (...)



===> No. You left the gas lamp out. Obviously you have a hidden agenda. And you should have been moderated (better: banned) for bringing this thread off topic.



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Lem by the way that is some beer glass that you have in front of you.



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I strongly suggest "The Magnificent Moderating Ten" give Lemtich at least a serious warning.



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Dutch,

"Incandescent"? Are you living in the Dark Ages? - Well, no - obviously not - I mean if it wasn't for the likes of Thomas Edison, we would all be sat at our keyboards typing by candlelight...

But there are now these great new Low Energy Bulbs - I don't know the Dutch for that, I'm sorry - which use high frequency discharges to ionise gas and excite the phosphors, thus producing Light! - without the need for, .......... wait for it,.........Incandescence!

Also, you didn't mention whether you wanted Edison Screw Cap fitting, Small Edison Screw Cap fitting, Miniature Edison Screw Cap fitting, Bayonet Cap fitting, Small Bayonet Cap fitting, Miniature Bayonet Cap fitting, Offset Bayonet Cap fitting (as used in car rear/stop lights) Pygmy, capless or indeed, one of the myriad other permutations which make buying a bulb almost as annoying as trying to buy a sandwich (Would that be on Rye, Sir? - etc).

I've forgotton what I was on about now, and you've probably nodded off, so

Goodn



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Message 173,

- Well I don't get out much....



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Who cares about a lamp or light bulb in this land of powercuts? Omg, I now see that "powercut" or "power cut" does not officially exist in the English language! Yawn. Good night, all!



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Keith

"If you (we, that is) know who the moderayors are, we can see if there are any actually logged on to the board in case of 'trouble' - and if there aren't, and we know the email addresses of the moderators, then we can email them.



The benefits of a moderator lie in his/her accessiblity - in my opinion. "



I am not sure where you are going with this. Firstly why do you think a moderator will pick up emails from board members straight away? If they are not online then they are also unlikely to pick up their e-mails. If someone is aware that there are no mods online then if someone wants to post obscene messages the damage will be done and as previous postings show there will then be a lot of complaints about there being no moderation. It is a no win situation as far as the management of this board is concerned. And I will reiterate, forget about the obsession with the way this board is run and just use it to impart and disseminate information about the TRNC.

AJ



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29/11/2008 23:29

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Look, its perfectly simple Hans. I'll just change the thread topic to Cyprus44 Moderators and lightbulbs.



As for gas lamps, they were phased out long ago, though I do remember seeing them lit at night in the back streets of Belfast in the 1960's by a chap who would come around with a long pole, flip the lamp window open with it and tug down a little lever mechanism that had a chain in the lamp to make the lamp glow. Bit like this one.



http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/Lemtich/IMG_0397.jpg



Mijn oude kameraad. You'll be getting on to the moustaches next.



AJ. Hi, photo taken in central Lefkosa August 2008, here's the link,



http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/Lemtich/17197996a8728486681l.jpg



Lem



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AJ,

I take you're point about it being a two - edged weapon - fair enough.

I'm not obsessed by the way - at least I hope not - just interested, as are other members who are willing to participate in the debate in order to make this (our) board a more pleasant place to post.

Please do not tell me What to do, or how I should use this board.

If you don't like reading my posts, you don't have to read them.

If people stop responding, then I'll know that they're not interested/amused/awake.

I really don't mind you commenting on my posts by the way, and I do value usefull input.

Regards,

Keith.



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keith



"Please do not tell me What to do, or how I should use this board."



I apologise if you thought I was trying to tell you how to use this board.

It was not aimed specifically at you but a general statement at anyone that still has an obsession with the way this is board is run.



"If you don't like reading my posts, you don't have to read them."



I have read this one before, you make a lot of interesting post's but I cannot sort out the wheat from the chaff until I have read them.



I am interested in reading anything and everything that is posted on this board about the TRNC but when most of the recent postings are about the running of this board then I sometimes wonder why Izzet and the mods bother.

AJ

By the way enjoy the rest of you evening.



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To moderate effectively the moderators must "get together" and make policies as to what constitutes an inappropriate comment. It is sad to say that of the existing mods some will delete because you breath others do nothing!



I will use the example quoted by many of a Forum relating to Nothern Cyprus where if you breath out of sequence you will be ejected. Not my opinion but a conglomerate I have compiled and summarised. So if the mods deciding to do the task here branch out on their own they will soon be highlighted, so please get together decide on the who, when and where very quickly.



Me, as I have said before would not have the job at any cost so good luck. However if you as a mod step out of line I will be there to guide you back!!!!!!!!



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