Everything in moderation

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
29/11/2008 18:25

Please, give peace a chance

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
29/11/2008 18:28

I support this Hattkins, although it would appear that if f issues are questionable, and the relevant questions are asked, then those posts are deleted.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
29/11/2008 18:29

Happy Clappy then.

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
29/11/2008 18:30

Very Very Happy Clappy - shall we all look through the square window?

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
29/11/2008 18:31

Or what about a "Group Hug"???

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
29/11/2008 18:32

Should we check first

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
29/11/2008 18:35

VV wise. Better not do anything off our own backs eh?

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
29/11/2008 18:53

Well, when you send a boy to do a man's job...

cruggs


Joined: 06/04/2008
Posts: 498

Message Posted:
29/11/2008 19:53

everything in moderation,no one can argue with that.but there again, perhaps

they will.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 11:53

An inoffensive post deleted, two complete threads deleted, both related to deleted posts, but no explanation yet there are posts still on the board which could be classed as offensive.

This is more like censorship than moderation, is nobody allowed to think out of the box anymore, why not the courtesy of some sort of explanation when threads are removed.

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 11:58

hattikins



Everthing in moderation

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 11:59

That is what I am trying to say Nigel.

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 12:00

lol i know



off to larnaca for some sun shine have a nice day all

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 12:27

Hattkins, It appears to me that there is an acute lack of consistency, whereby anything "goes" save for..... if an explanation is requested from a member, as to why the Mod's deleted posts/threads etc., then the "moderation" kicks in.



Explanations do not infringe any rule yet on this BB - well not to my knowledge? No reasons are provided by the Mods as to deleted posts/threads (not even by email). It is simple really - the posts/threads are deleted because certain members are questioning their reasons and as they are silent on this issue, they clearly believe that they are beyond providing such reasons.



No doubt this will be deleted too.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 13:15

Still awaiting an explanation, perhaps the mods online can offer some insight.

















only the mod that deleted the post can answer that question -- simbas

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 13:19

Obviously a tricky one, hattikins. Soul searching is so hard for some people - as is the search for an actual soul in the first place.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 13:28

Hattikins



I am afraid I can't help you as I have no idea what you are referring to and there is no mechanism to see what other moderators have done.



I can only answer for myself and say that I haven't found cause to delete anything yet, that I will only do so if a post breaches a forum rule (which most importantly includes being offensive or personally insulting) and finally if it doesn't cause me too much grief it is my intention to explain my actions either on board or by email.



Paul

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 13:53

How many threads have been deleted and what were they?

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 13:55

Can I also second what Harold has said. I too have not needed to delete any posts as I have, as yet, not been witness to any offensive or personal attacks.



I would give my reasons on the board if I was to delete or change a post in any way.

livethedream


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 14:14

I am in agreement with Harold and Bradus, I also do not know which posts have been deleted.



I have edited 2 posts this morning for 'personal abuse', no posts have been deleted, and an explanation was put on the bottom of the post.

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 14:24

I have lost track of how many moderators there are???

Bradus and Paul - I was unaware you were moderators.



Can they be named please without me wasting time trawling through threads to find this information?

Thanks.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 14:26

I'd like to third or fourth that. The only posts I've edited have been my own for a typo error.



Lem

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 14:27

The ones I know about are :

Issett

UK Turk

Lem

Simbas

SteveMc

Live the dream

Bradus

Harold (Paul)



That's only 8. Who are the others?

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 14:28

Kay



Quoting Lem



"So the definitive list of the 10 moderators is: -







Izzet, Ukturk, Notsoboredhousewife, Simbas, AndyP, Bradus, Tiggy, Harold2555, Puppylover and Lemtich."





Not sure if it's a definitive list



Paul

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 14:34

Obviously Lem's list misses SteveMC and Live the dream who are on yours





P

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 14:41

So there are (up to now) :



Issett



UK Turk



Lem



Simbas



SteveMc



Live the dream



Bradus



Harold (Paul)



NSBH



Andy P



Tiggy



Puppylover





That's 12. Any more?

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 14:43

It really is like "pulling teeth". May I suggest a separate thread naming ALL of the moderators so that we all know who they are? It would be helpful IMO.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 14:47

Seeing as the moderators' decision is final, let's look at an imaginary scenario on the SovietTractors.com forum.



A well-known board buffoon and drunken hypocrite starts targeting one outspoken person by starting a member-specific thread, which then attracts internet bullying from those who contribute little else. However, said buffoon has previously befriended an apparently lonely old dear who - inexplicably - has the power of moderation. In a welter of mutual appreciation between the pair, the outspoken but rule-abiding member has all his posts defending himself against the buffoon deleted. Result - the buffoon gets even more self-delusional and the board slips out of control.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 15:01

Is this an imaginary scenario Pike? Is it not what actually happened and caused so much grief and ill feeling on this board? Not to mention made it boring for everyone else.



Member speciifc threads should be deleted. However referrals to "well known board buffoons and drunken hypocrites" and "lonely old dears" could also be thought of as bullying. Even if dressed up as a scenario.



The only way round this is to prevent it from happening in the first place. Whilst moderators obviously have a role to play in this other posters could also help by not participating in such negative threads and also highlighting them to the moderators. Its up to us all to work together on this one. Only time will tell if we can be successful.



Kind regards

Sue

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 15:06

Kay



As far as I know Tiggy was only joking about being a moderator so is not on the list.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 15:08

Kay

"That's 12. Any more?"

How many more do you want? because I am sure it can be arranged.

AJ

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 15:25

ahhh yes but who is going to get nailed to the cross ?

Izzet



Joined: 01/12/2006
Posts: 920

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 15:28

Only threads that are pointless or ones that are against the rules are deleted.



I do not understand why you think everything is moderated ?!?!



Moderators do not need to explain why they delete a post.

Some (sometimes me too) actually send a courtesy email to the person who created the post about the reason why the post was deleted. But if that person repeatedly goes against the same rule again and again, I am not going to bother sending an email all the time.



Let me repeat:

Moderators do not need to explain why they delete a post.



It's very simple. Go and read the board rules, think for a second and you will see!



Izzet

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 16:49

Sorry to drag this on but can you define pointless please. I read a lot of posts here that I think are pointless but obviously the people who start them and the members that respond do not.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 17:22

joandjelly

Well my guess is that because this board is about the TRNC then the threads should be about exactly that and obviously there is a certain amount of tolerance but people should not be surprised if for example the '3 word story' thread was deleted. In my view a typical example of a pointless thread, but if it keeps people happy and stops them from getting involved in mudslinging threads then I guess it serves its purpose.

AJ



------

izzet - i totally agree!

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 17:24

Message 34,

I totally agree with you, my post that was deleted was

" Guido's again, we all know how good it is but please, give us a break !!!!

Offensive, compared to what does go on this board I think not.

The threads that were deleted were posts asking why, a couple of them tongue in cheek but certainly not offensive or in any other way against the rules of the board so why not explain the reasoning.

chick


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:39

Msg 36,

I was just reading a post from Busy Bees and it vanished within secs.

It is now getting ridiculas.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:51

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/7937.asp



Chick is this not it?

cruggs


Joined: 06/04/2008
Posts: 498

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 20:11

lemtick,my how you have grown up since becoming a moderator.....it seems

like only yesterday, you were on the table.......previous picture.....oh and get your haircut .all things in moderation.lol

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 20:26

So Paul, quoting Lem (both moderators) said as follows:-.....................



"Kay

Quoting Lem

"So the definitive list of the 10 moderators is: -



Izzet, Ukturk, Notsoboredhousewife, Simbas, AndyP, Bradus, Tiggy, Harold2555, Puppylover and Lemtich."



..................................

Does Lem not know, (or indeed you for that matter Paul), whether Tiggy is a Mod? Seems strange to me that the Mods do not even know who their comrades are? So is she or isn't she a Mod?

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 20:28

Hence the request for a definitive list of "Actual" Moderators in a completely separate thread. For clarity of course!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 20:41

RE msg 41, Mrs w26kay : (...) Hence the request for a definitive list of "Actual" Moderators in a completely separate thread. For clarity of course! (...)



===> Of course. And I second this message/request. Furthermore I'd like to add these questions: how did they qualify for this responsible job? Were women with the same qualifications as men favoured (EU-rule)? Where were the moderator jobs advertised for fourteen days? In all TC news papers (law of the TRNC).?

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 20:42

Just to confirm that I have no official notification of who are the other Mods either newly created or otherwise.



It isn't entirely necessary but I can imagine if not forsee situations where it would be useful to know another mod or two. I think that the list above is reasonably correct and understand members wanting to know who we are. Almost all the mods have allowed their email addresses to be shown so are contactable.



My personal take on irrelevant threads is that if the public want them then let them go but that is probably not Izzie's view.



With regard to the thread complaining about the number of threads about Guidos I think it is self defeating and pointless as you don't have to read them. Having said that personally I would not have touched it but I can understand the reasons for its removal.



Paul

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 20:44

Kay,



Tiggy is not a mod and said so himself yesterday, presumable after a reality check.



As for the system in general, it can only really work when there's a high degree of maturity and integrity at the top.

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 20:53

PP isn't that the actual point?



It is apparent that even the Moderators don't know who the other moderators are. Example: Lem thought Tiggy was a Moderator. Paul clearly did too, otherwise he would not have quoted Lem.



Now if they cannot be precise as to WHO the moderators actually are, what chance do we stand?



A definative list has be forthcoming and soon. For all I know there could be 100 Moderators! I haven't actually been told have you?



I haven't got the time to trawl through all the threads searching for information that should have been given in any event.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 21:00

Kay,



You're spot on. It's a very unusual system for a forum to have "secret" moderators and not to have it flagged up next to their names. I don't think I've ever seen it before. As well as maturity I should have added leadership as necessary qualities. Even on the web where people can call themselves what they like and run their own little empires, sensible executive decisions go a long way to earning credibility and respect.

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 21:06

Hans....

I would think by know you know me well enough to call me Kay.

I don't really like being called after my car



Good points raised though LOL.



PP - I agree with everything you have said.

It is extremely underhanded, and totally unnecessary.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 21:09

Kay



I don't understand the need to definitively know who are the moderators. However you clearly want to and so I actually support you in that.



As for numbers, I believe there are eleven, eight of whom were recently created, the others having been previously acting. Izzet chose not to name who they were out of respect to the moderators who may have wished to remain private .I think of their own volition all have now made themselves known so I believe that Izzet could publish a list if he is so minded and I would support such a request, emailed to him, as per the forum rules.



Paul

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 21:11

Thank you Paul.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 21:19

Paul,



Thanks for the clarification. Perhaps when putative mods were being approached it could have been made clear that part of the deal was openess and accountability to the members, but I've said as much in msg 46.

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 21:23

A formal request has been sent to Izzet.

Izzet



Joined: 01/12/2006
Posts: 920

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 03:23

Moderators who have announced themselves, have the "Moderator" tag under their name.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 07:59

Izzet methinks you missed one... your good self...



Also your "Moderators who have announced themselves" leads me to believe that somebody wants to remain anonymous... perhaps as we now have a plethora of mods this person or persons can be de-moderated so that there is no hidden aspect to all this...

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 10:57

As one of the newly appointed moderators, who would like to remain anonymous. I would just like to give my opinion on the above: YAWN! Who cares who the mods.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 11:06

Billy,



My point is why do we need this anonymous mod? Answer, I don't think we do.



What purpose do they serve that the vast number we now have can not perform? Answer, none...



Either declare or decline... that's my request...

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 11:09

Kay



"PP - I agree with everything you have said. "



Steady girl.... I know what you meant but I see what you have written...



;¬)

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 11:19

I decline to declare.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 12:33

Shoe size...

Izzet



Joined: 01/12/2006
Posts: 920

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 12:55

Groucho - i don't agree with your post #53.



The very few mods who want to stay anonymous are very good people and I trust them very much indeed.



The reason one told me for wanting to stay anonymous is because he said he developed good relationships with some of the members, and if he is known as a moderator, he is afraid that that relationship might not last. Having him as an anonymous moderator is good for all, and allows him to do moderation better.



Izzet

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 14:51

At this rate there will be more Chiefs than Indians!

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 15:10

msg 30....bradus, I put out a statment that I was NOT a moderator and would be suprised if ever was asked ! I know who I would moderate!



Msg 28. A well-known board buffoon and drunken hypocrite starts targeting one outspoken person by starting a member-specific thread, which then attracts internet bullying from those who contribute little else. However, said buffoon has previously befriended an apparently lonely old dear who - inexplicably - has the power of moderation. In a welter of mutual appreciation between the pair, the outspoken but rule-abiding member has all his posts defending himself against the buffoon deleted. Result - the buffoon gets even more self-delusional and the board slips out of control.



The author was suspended temporarily whilst the board was cleaned up. Did not take him long to go back to the vile way of treating members.



Msg 44. Same person making a snide comment about me.....this is really sad as I have kept myself to myself. .

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 16:25

I'm Spartacus (or am I?).

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 16:31

i don'k know Hilly , are you ?

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 16:38

If you can call me Hilly, can I call you Silly?

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 16:41

you can indeed ! , you can call me anything you like

Regards , Simbas

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 16:42

And it wont be moderated?

cruggs


Joined: 06/04/2008
Posts: 498

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 16:49

now ,i am bewildered. is anybody else.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 17:48

I promise you , i will make an exception for you

Regards , Simbas

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:24

i would like to thank the moderators for removing the racist comment which were made last night after another member made a harmless comparison



i was so appalled by the post, having german family members ,that i actually would have left this board if they had not dealt with it.



ten out of ten for quick responce, thank you. keep up the good work!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:54

I would like to thank one of the moderators for removing the scandalous comparison (TRNC civil servant - GeStaPo) which was made last night by another member.



I was so appalled by the post, having a father who suffered badly from this German GeStaPo scum, that I asked for a removal of the post.



Ten out of ten for the quick response, thank you. Indeed, keep up the good work!

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 21:23

Tiggy,

Point well made. I was just attempting to answer Kay's question on who was a moderator? I had seen your post the previous night, remembering that you had joked about it, so was able to answer.



I, like you, knew exactly who message 28 was referring too hence my reply. You are correct it was a snide comment to make and unacceptable.



Kind regards



Sue

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 22:26

Whats happened to Wyn ?

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 08:03

Izzet



"The reason one told me for wanting to stay anonymous is because he said he developed good relationships with some of the members, and if he is known as a moderator, he is afraid that that relationship might not last. Having him as an anonymous moderator is good for all, and allows him to do moderation better. "



I don't agree with your take on this... In my opinion it doesn't say much for the relationship that he/she has to keep his position a secret... or does it?



At lowest I think it should be a rule that all anonymous moderators and I take it there is more than one, have to refer moderating decisions to a third party who is prepared to be named, so that they can at least explain their actions in this public forum...



It would seem simple enough.... Just a thought as to how the level of trust which appears to have been damaged can be properly restored...

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 08:42

Wheres willy?

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 10:16

when someone put a post you find offensive, does that give you the right to post another more offensive responce?

my view is that it doesn't! but then i'm not a racist!

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 10:19

Normal service WILL be resumed



































































































When

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 10:25

Normal service WILL be resumed



When......asks Nige



You are right to ask Nige and I'll tell you when, it's when people realise this is a good forum and the persistent whingeing about the saga of the moderators is put to bed and we all moved on. For crying out loud is that all some people think about.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 15:14

Bill,



You don't have to take part in the discussion if you don't like it... you have the ultimate sanction...



However, I am really frustrated by the need for some mods to keep their status a big secret... and no, I don't accept the argument put forward by Izzet on their behalves...



It's like having a secret ref on the football field making decisions that are not up for discussion...



If they want to be mods then they should have the courage to stand up and be counted ... or as in the option I outlined (msg 74) be required to refer all decisions to alter or delete a post to a named mod/s for approval/verification or stand down.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 15:20

Groucho



"You don't have to take part in the discussion if you don't like it... "



You are quite right, I don't and I won't. Suffice to say that I do disagree with the rest of your post though. Please don't take offence to this as it is not meant.

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 15:36

I support Groucho on this issue. If moderators are not going to come out of the closet and be counted, then they should step down. I have never known of a forum where the moderators were anonymous. It is ludicrous.



In any event, there are NOW sufficient "known" moderators, to moderate on this forum, SO what's the point of having "unknown" ones. Surely all of the "known" moderators won't be on holiday, working or socialising at the same time?



Another question arises why does this forum need so many moderators? It has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous in the numbers of moderators appointed recently. Lot's and lot's of unanswered questions????

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 15:37

Bill,



I'm not offended...

stewy


Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 279

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 15:50

This bb is a bit like life. You must know your place. It is run and moderated by people on a higher level. They can do as they please. We have a choice, either join in or leave.

This is just the start. Once all the moderators get the hang of things. Posts, threads memberships will be deleted all over the place.

There are just too many people involved and too many people with power.

Judging by some of the posts left by moderators. These are not the brightest sparks. They will argue amongst therselves until this forum implodes.

livethedream


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:02

hi stewy.



The need for moderators was thought to be enough by Izzet after the mess the forum was in because some forum members kept replying to obvious wind up posts.



There was much calling for the moderators who, as it turned out, were mostly on holiday at the same time - how very dare they!! lol



We are not all on line all day every day, so hopefully this way at least one person will be so that moderation can take place, as asked for by many forum members.



Which posts are you referring to that have been left?



I take exception to ''not the brightest sparks'', but you are entitled to your opinion, and I don't consider it to be abusive.



ltd

stewy


Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 279

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:12

As long as moderators know there place.. (Under Izzet). This forum might stay ok. Power corrupts you know.



Moderators who take exception to posts can delete them. It's up to you livethedream. You can delete my opinion.



But I stand by my opinion. Some of the moderators do seem a bit wishy washy. I wouldn't let them run my bath.



I wonder how long this posts stays here?

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:17

Stewy



Why would you think your post will be deleted? It doesn't flagrantly breach any forum rules.



For the record, Izzet runs this board, the volunteer moderators just help keep it a pleasant place to visit and secondly, speaking personaly I wouldn't want to run your bath!



Keep posting and enjoy





Harold

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:20

If I want to have a wishy washy I run my own bath wathy.



Lem

livethedream


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:22

stewy



If I was going to delete it, I would have done by now. As I said, you are entitled to your opion, as long as you are not abusive.



ltd

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:22

Groucho

When things were at their most unpleasant on the board, people being insulted and threatened with violence,at least one of the " older" moderators was not actually on holiday, they were here and posting on some of the threads. It doesn,t bode well to me.

livethedream


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:29

hattikins



As you say 'at least one of the ''older'' moderators .... was posting.



This is exactly why Izzet has appointed more - if one misses something, hopefully someone else will spot it. It's not perfect - but what is?



ltd

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:34

If they were posting on some of the threads in question then they obviously hadn,t missed anything, as I said it doesn,t bode well if posts such as that were allowed on the board.

livethedream


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:41

As I don't know which posts you are referring to, or which moderator, I really can't comment on that. As I said before, that is why Izzet has appointed more - what one person misses, another will hopefully pick it up.



Perhaps if everyone gives it a chance, stops posting about moderators and being moderated, and get back to posting on other more interesting and helpful topics, we won't have to try and explain every action that's taken, or not, as the case may be.



You all now have the email addresses of the moderators, so if anyone sees anything that you think should be dealt with and it isnt being, contact someone.



ltd

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:42

Hatty



You have to hit the @ button to get a ' not a , in doesn't.



Lem

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:45

Hatikins



I can assure you that if I see blatantly offensive language and or threatening posts I would delete them.



Hope that reassures you, the forum will be better than it was a couple of weeks ago.



Paul

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:50

Thanks Lem, that is another mistake I have made, sorry if I offended anyone

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:51

No worries. Hatty



Lem

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:52

LTD said "You all now have the email addresses of the moderators"



Ah - But not the "secret" ones!

Becks


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 130

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:57

I cant keep up with this. Has the rules changed, do we have to give our email address now ?

cruggs


Joined: 06/04/2008
Posts: 498

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 16:58

why,can,t we just get on and let the moderators,settle in before we condemn

them,as a new broom sweeps clean so the bristles, wear down eventually.

but i also think that the moderators, should be known to the forum,members,

so we can all be polite to them, and then condemn when they //////// deleted

muck up.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 17:24

Groucho: "However, I am really frustrated by the need for some mods to keep their status a big secret... and no, I don't accept the argument put forward by Izzet on their behalves..."



On another thread you invite mods to "vote me off" and here you are questioning the very heart of the moderating system. Time for some consistency, maybe?

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 17:47

Lem, where you a moderater yesturday? can't say I noticed your badge..................................so everyone there are 600, or there will be by the end of the week!!

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 17:50

I certainly was my little fruit juice, have been since last week.



I'm one of the new eight ones with email on view.



Lem

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 17:51

Congratulations!

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 17:54

Thank you. Is your photograph of your villa?



Lem

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 18:02

Yep, in Kasiyaka

Val44


Joined: 14/11/2008
Posts: 210

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 18:35

I think you can never have enough moderators. The more the merrier. Can you apply? Or is it like a masonic thing? Is there any initiation ceremonies? Do you have to pass any exams or have formal qualifications? Is there a secret forum for moderators only? Are there degrees in moderation? one day can you become a master moderator?



May the force be with you.



Val xx

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 19:20

I just waiting for the "naughty corner" to come into force.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 19:25

val,



I think one esssential requirement is evidence that the candidate has never challenged or dared to speak out against a rotten system and some of the rotten individuals within it. Can't go upsetting people's pals...

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 20:59

Pike



You know and I know, I was not being serious but you also have to admit that you were sailing close to the wind with remarks implicitly calling into question the legality of the TRNC....



Whether a secret policeman will spot this or not is a question to which I guess we will never know the answer...

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 21:46

Groucho,



No harm in a bit of thingy-stirring though, eh?



BTW, if I started soviet_tractors.com and insisted a condition of membership was acceptence from all members that the moon was made of cream cheese - and that even challenging this would end in expulsion - wouldn't I be treating my members as complete idiots?



Just one for all the thinking people out there...

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 21:58

Come on Pikey!



We're not stupid, everybody knows the moon is made out of green cheese, not cream cheese!



Mind you, if you started to post on soviet_tractors.com about the Soviet Union being totally illegal, it would be the Gulag for you, old boy.



Not a very nice place where you would be filled up with dialectics and then shot.



Lem

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 22:11

I see you get the drift, Lem...



Mods needed for personal abuse on another recent thread, BTW.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 22:28

I can't be everywhere at once!



Lem

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 23:06

I know - but there were four available for quite a while...

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
03/12/2008 09:54

Message 79

'Behalf' has no plural

Gotcha!

Keith Caley, Chief Inspector, Word Police.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
03/12/2008 10:15

Keith



Whilst unusual behalves or more usuually behalfs is permissable.



Paul Gould

Google user!

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
03/12/2008 11:07

Very unusuuuual!

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
03/12/2008 12:22

Come on Pikey!







"We're not stupid, everybody knows the moon is made out of green cheese, not cream cheese!"



Am I always the last to know???

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
03/12/2008 13:03

Promulgation follows...

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
03/12/2008 13:11

We wait in anticipation................

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
03/12/2008 13:45

The official announcement of a new law or ordinance whereby the law or ordinance is put into effect. (just in case)

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
03/12/2008 14:02

That shows them Vicki, who said you were a dumb blonde ( well brunette)

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
03/12/2008 14:04

Actually, I said it, LOl