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sharpei


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21/11/2011 15:19

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for the whole house, I want to protect all my tech.



Pipie


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Best ones are through Elco mod on here !!



sharpei


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Ta.so where do I get one?



nurseawful



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21/11/2011 15:45

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Power sUrge protector even! And yes Elko2 sells them but believe he is on holiday at the moment.



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sharpei


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21/11/2011 16:31

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thanks mess 4 for the lesson,so its sUrge ta. does anyone no were i cAn get one pls. :0



CarrieRBag



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I have one of Elko's and it works a treat, think I got it from Tektan but not 100% sure. Try typing it into the bar and see if another thread comes up.



batgirl


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Tektan wholesale in Girne sell Elko,s product down the high st to Socrates hotel ,up the st on the left walking only



CarrieRBag



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Yup, it's Tektan, see this earlier post from Elko





For a reasonable protection at a very reasonable price for the future I suggest you buy



1. A surge protector (obtainable from Tektan) which you can plug into any socket and it will protect that particular ring i.e. if you have two fuses protecting the sockets, then you must have two surge protectors each plugged to a ring circuit for each fuse.



2. Elko Voltage Protector to be plugged into any socket to protect the whole house against high or low voltage but not very short surges as stated in (1) above. Obtainable from Tektan or Octopus Pools.



Pipie


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21/11/2011 18:43

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Buy the surge protector straight from Elco as you will buy it a little cheaper. Hope this helps !!



hodgeliz


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21/11/2011 20:24

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If in the UK or you know someone coming from UK they are £3.99 in B & Q and good quality type usk1 with kite mark



Pipie


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Strongly advise to buy from Elco,his offers greater protection !!



flightholiday


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Not the first time we have had this subject and to be sure it will not be the last. Go to - http://www.elkocyprus.com - and buy from Ismet who is Elko he designed and has had them manufactured for his company.

He has other useful, equipment on his site See - http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/34908.asp - for some technical thoughts



hodgeliz


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On whose say so does it offer greater protection, are people now saying that an item with British standards kitemark and manufactured to British safety standards is not as good as something with no official safety certification what so ever, 'well well' now theres a turn around.

There are many surge protectors on the market and most for a lot less than 100tl/£35 its not a first in the world as claimed by Ismet.



elko2



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Hey I am back from my holidays.

Here we go again. do you know the old saying: "You have to agree before you disagree" i.e. you have to agree on what you are talking about before you can disagree.



"Elko Voltage Protector" is a first and the only one in the world as far as I know. It cuts off your supply to the whole house or workplace if the voltage goes outside set limits which can be programmed by the user.

Hodgeliz, please let me know if anything similar is available anywhere and I will stop claiming that its the only one



A Surge Protector is something else. It shorts the supply if you have a short and sharp very very high voltage. Since they short the supply,say 2 amperes, 13 amperes, 60 amperes and so on, they come in all ratings and thus prices depending on their capacity to short. such surges occur during thunderstorms etc but will not protect against higher voltages that happens through faults in the system.



British Standards BS, German Standards DIN etc.



elko2



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22/11/2011 01:04

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ctd.

are just standards and guarantee a certain level. That does not mean that you cannot obtain higher levels. thus it makes no sense to say that British standards are better than German standards or reverse but you can say that DIN abcd is better than BS efgh or whatever after studying both standards.



Do you really have to be an engineer to understand such things or is it common sense?

ismet



loulou



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22/11/2011 08:23

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Tektan sell them 100tl



micklark


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22/11/2011 09:12

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Hello Elko, would I be correct in saying that if you have separate fuse boxes for different parts of the house you would need one on your gadgets for each one, and what about 3 phase systems, would you need 3 ?



Donaldson


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22/11/2011 09:29

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Sharpei, please be aware that if you fit one of Elko's excellent surge protectors, in the event of a spike in the mains it will switch off the power almost instantaneously. If your computer (or anything else with a conventional hard drive fitted) is accessing the hard drive at the time, it could lead to a hard drive crash, which you really don't want.

The way to protect your equipment from a power cut, as opposed to a surge, is with a UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply), which will keep the supply running through a short power cut or at least give you time to close down the computer properly. You can get them small enough to protect one computer or large enough to protect a whole office block (and anything in between), but while the small ones are fairly cheap and available at any computer store, the big ones can be very expensive.

I would recommend a surge protector for the whole house and a UPS for the sensitive equipment (computer, TV, etc.)



sharpei


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22/11/2011 10:36

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Thanks everyone for the advice and dIrections.



elko2



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22/11/2011 11:25

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I call my gadgets "Elko Voltage Protector" rather than "Surge Protector". I explained the difference in msg. 14 above.



msg. 17:

Normally even if you have two or more fuse boxes in the house, they are all connected through a main fuse box and a main RCD i.e. the relay that trips when there is a fault to earth. Thus I recommend that you plug in my Voltage Protector into the circuit that is supplied by the main fuse box directly. In 3 phase systems, you should have one for each phase for full protection but even if you have only one a voltage disturbance normally happens in all three phases at the same time and thus any voltage disturbance in any phase will cut off the three phase supply.

In msg. 13 Hodgeliz wrote: "There are many surge protectors on the market and most for a lot less than 100tl/£35 its not a first in the world as claimed by Ismet."

In reply in msg 14 ı wrote: " Hodgeliz, please let me know if anything similar is available anywhere and I will stop claiming that its the only one" I am still waiting for a response. Just a reminder that my product is a "Programmable Voltage Protector" and not a fixed "Surge Protector". the difference has been explaine in msg. 14 above.

ismet



micklark


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22/11/2011 11:39

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Thanks for explaining Elko, but the original question was about a serge (now changed to surge) protector and message 8 answered it clearly, IMHO surges are more to be concerned with than voltage fluctuations for delicate equipment, wouldn't you agree ?



elko2



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22/11/2011 15:51

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msg. 21, Micklard,

I was talking about serious fluctuations and faults like a bad or severed connection to the neutral which may result in dangerously high voltages like 300 volts and over. This happens quite often in Cyprus. Quite often you hear about a whole street with all electrical equipment damaged. Normally I set my higher limit at 258 volts because our voltage in :Cyprus is not supposed to exceed 240 volts plus 6% which equals 255 volts. Most electrical gadgets sold in Cyprus are rated at 220-230 volts, hence the added problem. If you want to know more about high voltages due to a bad neutral please ask me privately.



Yes the original thread was about voltage surges but someone accused me of making false claims and hence my explanation. I hope you understand.

ismet

PS: I use an Elko Voltage Protector at home and Office but not a Surge Protector. I worked on the development of Surge Protectors with GEC in the seventies and we used radioactive gas (tritium) in them to make them act fast but now radioactive gas is forbidden and the new generation is much slower. I believe that my protector is more vital than the other but of course its best to have both



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