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YFred

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Message Posted: 26/11/2011 15:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 50 in Discussion |
| On the 4th of December I am doing a 10 mile sponsored walk in support of the Cypriots who are occupying the buffer zone in Nicosia. If anybody wishes to join me they are welcome, however if you can’t join me and would like to make a contribution no matter how small you are also welcome. |
CarrieRBag


Joined: 23/12/2008 Posts: 1374
Message Posted: 26/11/2011 15:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 50 in Discussion |
| Difficult on 4 December YFred as it's census day and we are all under a curfew... how did you get out of it? |
YFred

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Message Posted: 26/11/2011 15:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 50 in Discussion |
| I live in London. Just pledging some money is just as good. After the walk, I shall explain how to actually make payments. Any support no matter how small would be appreciated. |
steve.sewell

Joined: 07/11/2011 Posts: 277
Message Posted: 26/11/2011 15:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 50 in Discussion |
| I am also doing a marathon sex session for the same cause, i'm going to dress up as a gimp and a kenyan always cums first. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 28/11/2011 21:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 50 in Discussion |
| I can't believe not a single pledge to help the people who are actually doing something to unify our country. |
AndyR


Joined: 23/04/2009 Posts: 317
Message Posted: 28/11/2011 21:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 50 in Discussion |
| YFred, I'll gladly make a contribution, how do i get it to you? |
YFred

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Message Posted: 28/11/2011 21:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 50 in Discussion |
| I will put up a paypal account after the walk. Just pledging a figure would be great. Thanks |
AndyR


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Message Posted: 28/11/2011 21:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 50 in Discussion |
| Put me down for £20 please. |
niceone

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Message Posted: 28/11/2011 21:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 50 in Discussion |
| I will sponsor you £1 per mile you may have to message me I don't come on the board very often |
YFred

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Message Posted: 28/11/2011 21:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 50 in Discussion |
| No problem at all. Thank you very much. Please keep them coming. |
spider

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Message Posted: 28/11/2011 21:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 50 in Discussion |
| Good luck and I will be happy to pledge but I do not have a paypal account so how could I get cash to you please ? Spider,X |
YFred

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Message Posted: 28/11/2011 21:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 50 in Discussion |
| We will have alternative ways too. There will be an an Account in England and In Cyprus to be able to pay in. I will give out details to you after the walk, just pledges for now would be great. |
spangles

Joined: 22/10/2008 Posts: 411
Message Posted: 28/11/2011 21:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 50 in Discussion |
| YFred - In Erkin's (one of the group in the buffer zone) post of 22/11 "Occupy Buffer Nicosia" he specifically requested that cash donations NOT be made. Only food items etc. were asked for. Has this changed? Your comments please. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 28/11/2011 21:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 50 in Discussion |
| They did say that, and we will have the cash converted to food and drinks as per their wish. I will have Yorgozlu collect cash and buy the necessary drinks for them. Collection and delivery is not a problem, raising the money is the most important at this stage. It does not matter where you are, please pledge and I will make arrangement for collection. This has happened all too sudden so nothing planned but we must try to do our bit. If anybody else volunteers to collect sponsorship and delver food to Nicosia I would be most grateful. |
spangles

Joined: 22/10/2008 Posts: 411
Message Posted: 28/11/2011 22:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 50 in Discussion |
| Thanks for the clarifications YFred. I did drop a food bag off on Saturday at the buffer zone. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 28/11/2011 22:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 50 in Discussion |
| Fred Yusuf I am doing a 10 mile sponsored walk on 4th of December to raise money for the people who are occupying the buffer zone in Nicosia. Any sponsors out there would be most welcome no matter how small. Anybody out there willing to sponsor me? just a couple of pounds will do. Keep up pour occupation and don't give up till all the borders are removed. LikeUnlike · · Yesterday at 11:48am · 5 people like this. Weekly occupation of Lidra St. buffer zone awesom! you recieved a round of applause from the camp site! Yesterday at 1:33pm · LikeUnlike · 1Loading... o Fred Yusuf Awesome is what they are doing. Keep it up. Anybody who reads these pages and wish to pledge please do. All we are after is pledges at this stage and will let you know how the collection will take place. This is what appeared on their website when they read I was doing sponsored walk to raise money for them. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 28/11/2011 22:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 50 in Discussion |
| Thanks sprangles. Even if food is pledged I am sure we can organise a pick up and deliver it to them. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 29/11/2011 00:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 50 in Discussion |
| I have publicised this on the other so called "Cyprus Forum" and all I got was loads of abuse. You would never guess they actually love the borders. |
Jonholmes

Joined: 08/11/2011 Posts: 184
Message Posted: 29/11/2011 06:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 50 in Discussion |
| A great gesture, good luck,hope you get good weather. |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 29/11/2011 07:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 50 in Discussion |
| Yfred, "I have publicised this on the other so called "Cyprus Forum" and all I got was loads of abuse. You would never guess they actually love the borders." That's because even though you call it 'our island' they have been told it's theirs..... |
foxylad

Joined: 01/11/2011 Posts: 56
Message Posted: 29/11/2011 07:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 50 in Discussion |
| it is also being publicised on twitter via the " occupy network " |
wylam

Joined: 06/05/2011 Posts: 26
Message Posted: 29/11/2011 09:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 50 in Discussion |
| Just a note: if you actually visit these people or just walk through the crossing point you will see very little about a united Cyprus, but you will see a lot of anti-capitalism literature. Along with the graffiti down Ledra/Lidra street. Not being critical of your sincere efforts, but the money would be better going to the Embargoed group who are very pro-active in the UK and want a balanced settlement. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 29/11/2011 10:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 50 in Discussion |
| Thanks foxylady. Only 5 days left, more pledges please. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 29/11/2011 10:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 50 in Discussion |
| No Borders is a fine first step to aspire to. Being anti-capitalist is no bad thing either. This is a cross community effort whilst Embargoed is only a TC effort, not that I do not sympathise with embargoed, because I do. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 01/12/2011 22:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 50 in Discussion |
| We now have 3 days left to the sponsors walk and these young people are actually showing the world that they can live together so come can we have some more pledges please. I have now reached 153 quid but could do with a bit more. It is getting cold and they will need fuel as well as food and drinks. And of course not forgetting that if it helps towards peace we will all gain from their effort. Not asking for a lot, just what ever you feel like giving. Thanks |
ilovecyprus

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Message Posted: 01/12/2011 23:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 50 in Discussion |
| Yfred I am not sure if the group is bound together by a belief in anti capitalism or by a genuine willingness for Cypriots to live together. If both then we know they propose a type of socialist/communist type of order on the country Anyway put me down for a tenner. I wish I could contribute more but times are hard. |
philbailey

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Message Posted: 01/12/2011 23:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 50 in Discussion |
| Find it hard to believe they are anti-capitalism on other thread it was stated they were eating macdonalds and drinking starbucks |
spangles

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Message Posted: 01/12/2011 23:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 50 in Discussion |
| Have to agree with message 22. Very little comes across about a united Cyprus. Graffiti about equal distribution of wealth and having to produce I.D. when buying Efes has little to do with the subject. The barefoot "rastafarian type" or didgeridoo player convey nothing at all about Cyprus and both are prominent. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 02/12/2011 14:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 50 in Discussion |
| Thanks ilovecyprus, much appreciated. Any body else out there? It does not matter how much, what ever we can afford. To me the fact that there we have young GSs and TCs together in the buffer zone speaks volumes as to their intention. It can only grow. Think about how the vietnam war opposition started and where it ended. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 02/12/2011 14:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 50 in Discussion |
| Thanks Spider, what can I put you down for please? |
richb

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Message Posted: 02/12/2011 15:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 50 in Discussion |
| put me down for 20TL |
YFred

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Message Posted: 02/12/2011 18:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 50 in Discussion |
| Thanks richb |
YFred

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Message Posted: 03/12/2011 17:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 50 in Discussion |
| Last day today, any more pledges would be appreciated. |
wylam

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Message Posted: 03/12/2011 17:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 50 in Discussion |
| If you are communist and are a Greek Cypriot, then support this. Try and find a true Turkish Cypriot 'who lives full time in the North' if you can. Nothing at all to do with a united Cyprus. You HAVE to go and see them. Don't comment from the UK as you have not been there. |
Hack_the_mac

Joined: 30/11/2011 Posts: 27
Message Posted: 03/12/2011 18:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 50 in Discussion |
| A bit like the socialist workers party in the uk ? |
YFred

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Message Posted: 03/12/2011 21:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 50 in Discussion |
| Wylam, I don't know where you spend your time, but I was there e this summer and I have around 200 close relatives who all live in the north full time and none of them that are civil servants. Most University Graduates from Turkey who earn their living in Cyprus. As to these people, they remind me of the hippies that started a movement to stop the USA from killing Vietnamese civilians. They did not do much either. These people believe in no borders. no matter what else they believe in it is an absolute first step towards unification, and I know may TCs that support their effort. In Lurucina 500 people have been begging for the border to be removed to no avail so far. The reaction they had from some politicians who visited them as well as how they are ignored by the media speaks volumes. |
wylam

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Message Posted: 04/12/2011 08:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 50 in Discussion |
| Hello Y Fred, I spend my time, ALL my time in KKTC, TRNC, North Cyprus or whatever you want to call it. I don't care if you have 2,000 relatives here and what have these people got to do with Vietnam? Did I mention Civil Servants? This lot at the Ledra street crossing point are mainly out of work layabouts, 21st century hippies, Greek Cypriot Nationalists, Extreme Socialists with the odd misguided Turkish Cypriot on a weekend (although I have yet to find one on my regular crossings). I know you spout forth on numerous websites North and South, but what you quote as facts are anything but facts! |
bigOz

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Message Posted: 04/12/2011 16:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 50 in Discussion |
| YFred; Although we never met, I think we were "thread pals in the (GC) Cyprus Form when we supported each other's arguments in favour of a united island, against the fanatic GC youth (and many adults in fact) who had a habit of seeing themselves as "the Master Race", and spitting venom at the very idea od having to share power with TCs In fact most of them argued (and still do), the island is a Hellenic island bu some God given right etc etc. That being the case my friend, is it really worth the effort, and more importantly, would it be safe to ask for a united island at this stage? The impossibility of having a sensible arguments against these Greek fanatics stopped me from posting in that forum Although I would support and have great sympathy for all the Cypriots who are genuinely seeking a union in our country, I must be realistic and accept the sad facts. Namely another decade or two where the education system on both sides educate young members about the true "Cyprus History" |
wylam

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Message Posted: 04/12/2011 16:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 50 in Discussion |
| Well said Big Oz end of conversation! |
YFred

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Message Posted: 04/12/2011 17:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 50 in Discussion |
| BigOz, We have two choices in life either United Cyprus or United Turkey and I know which one I would choose. These fanatics are the reason why TCs will only accept BBF solution as things stand. I see BBF as the first step towards full unification but I would not hold my breath, it may well take another 37 years before we can build enough trust between the two communities. In the mean time, we have to try to get the younger generation to word towards peace, what have we got to loose. If they start the old tricks, the borders close again. This will only work if both sides wish it and make it work. I feel these youngsters are making an effort. So I intend to continue to support them in any I can. Regarding the verbal wars we had in the other forum with the fanatics? how can I forget. However, they hate these people so much that even the decent GCs on that forum felt the need to only pledge privately. So really taking the same side as the fanatics is not an option for me. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 04/12/2011 17:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 50 in Discussion |
| I have now done the walk without any problems except a few blisters here and there on my feet. I feel better for it though. Wylan, that was the cheapest trick I have ever seen trying to attack me. At least you should have stated 2 facts which I have expressed and and which you believe not to be true. Go on have a go find two non-facts? |
Erkin

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Message Posted: 04/12/2011 19:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 50 in Discussion |
| I am a bit confussed about all of this, Yfred sorry but who are you? and who have you spoken from ocuppy ledra street group in order to do a collection for cash? You are doing a good job but i am not aware of such event. In Ref msg 14 you state that Yorgos will be collecting the cash? Sorry been away for a few days and not been following the Cyprus44 forum. can you please email |
YFred

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Message Posted: 04/12/2011 19:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 50 in Discussion |
| Hi Erkin, I am a TC living in London who has been posting on this forum for some time. Although not so much recently. When I heard that some young Cypriots both Turkish and Greek occupied a bit of the buffer zone and are requesting that we removal of borders and unite our island and were asking for food, drinks and fuel, I decided to do a sponsored 10 mile walk. I have people who have pledge money from Cyprus both north and south, as well as UK and USA. The idea is to get this sponsorship money to Cyprus and buy these people what they require. How this money is going to be collected is not decided as yet but will be by tonight. Reference to Yorgo was that I was going to ask him to collect the money promised in Kyrenia are, there will also be somebody in the south and London. I hope to have available paypal and bank account for this too so anybody who wishes to contribute can. However if you are happier to just go there yourself and give them some food all the better. |
Erkin

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Message Posted: 04/12/2011 23:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 50 in Discussion |
| Yfred, the reason i asked you about it, I am not sure if you have seen my previous posting dated 24.11.2011 I am one of the Tc who along with few other TC and Gc started the ledra Street sit in. In many of my Cyprus44 messages on this topic, I asked that no cash be given to any person at the camp and if people wanted to donate something all well and good, if that is what you are going to do, then fine, but please do not collect the cash and hand it to anyone in the sit in, we do not want to be seen as collecting cash. this will give the people on both side some to accuse us with. As stated thanks for all that you are doing but make sure that the cash is converted to food and fuel. I wish to thank all for their support. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 05/12/2011 11:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 50 in Discussion |
| Erkin I realised that, and I have not really contacted anybody from the camp other than what I have posted on their website. We have no intention of insulting you guys, but we will use the money to buy supplies for you and get it delivered. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 05/12/2011 11:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 50 in Discussion |
| Just to let every one who pledge know that I have no done the walk. No real damage done to the body other than a few blisters and a few tight muscles. I will be contacting you personally as to how to pay the pledges to and it will be somebody you know and trust from this forum. If anybody else wishes to contribute for a very worthy cause please do not hesitate to let me know. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 06/12/2011 15:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 50 in Discussion |
| I have managed to complete the walk in just under 4 hours without any problems just a little tired. I would like to thank all the people who supported me finacially as well as morally and I have asked Yorgozlu to contact you and collect the sponsorship. Can you please pay the sponsorship money to Yorgozlu, he will contact you himself . Thanks for your support. Took some pictures of the walk – enjoy. http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=oa.10150397200031700&type=1 |
yorgozlu


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Message Posted: 06/12/2011 15:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 50 in Discussion |
| Could the ones sponsoring YFred contact me on 05338739181 or ironhorseturk@hotmail.co.uk in order to collect the donations,so that he can stop pesterring me (only kidding bro). |
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