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philbailey


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Girl gang who kicked woman in the head while yelling 'kill the white slag' freed after judge hears 'they weren't used to drinking because they're Muslims'



* Yobs ripped lump of hair from Rhea Page's head during High Street attack

* Three sisters and cousin escape with six-month suspended sentences

* Maximum term for assault occasioning actual bodily harm is five years' jail

* Judge: 'Those who knock someone to the floor and kick them in the head can expect to go inside, but I'm going to suspend the sentence'

A gang of Muslim girls who repeatedly kicked a young woman in the head walked free from court after a judge heard they were 'not used to being drunk' because of their religion.



The group screamed 'kill the white slag' while kicks raining in on 22-year-old Rhea Page as she lay motionless on the ground, the court heard.



The attackers - three sisters and their cousin - were told by a judge that normally they would have been sent to jail.



However, he han



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Post deleted , not a helpful comment , he has every right to post what he feels might of interest ........... Simbas



philbailey


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Post deleted , you don't have to retaliate ........ Simbas



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I feel a ban coming on.....



philbailey


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Why and for who?



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obviously for DC hijacking a thread



LaptaGeezer


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This story has been hitting the headlines over here... and when compared to the girl that 'ranted' on the tram, who is still being remanded, it is stirring things up somewhat. People will not stand back for too long once the balance of justice tips too far one way. We are heading for trouble on the streets somewhere down the line and the UK politicians are too blinkered to see it coming!



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Agree message 7

Read a good article about 2 year's ago that if a racial conflict did escalate out of control that saturdays after football would be a very bad time.



Bradus


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07/12/2011 00:37

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PC gone mad plus old judges living in a different world and century to the rest of us. Needs addressing because its turning the justice system into a laughing stock.



philbailey


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Sorry the link is here (for those interested)



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html



Ralph96



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07/12/2011 04:54

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Phil, If the girls are not used to alcohol then its not their fault.



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The problem is irrational xenophobia leads to idiots behaving like this



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070650/Simon-Beech-Soldier-ran-gas-pipe-mosque-burn-race-hate-attack.html



simbas



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Msg's 2 & 3 edited for reason given

Simbas



Erkin


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msg 11: if the girls were not used to drinking then why did they drink in the first place, just because they are not used to drinking does not excuse for their actions, and should have been jailed for it accordingly. This only makes excuse for others in the future.



I am not used to drugs so shall go and get high and go and beat the sh.ts out of someone in the middle of Kyrenia and use this as an excuse.



British Justice gone MAD



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Simbas, "Pist deleted , not a helpful comment"



the Freudian-slip is not helpful either! although.....



MsGarnet


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Judge Robert Brown should be removed immediately. Not only has he let Rhea and her partner Lewis down, he has given decent Moslems (the vast majority, the press only talk about the reprobates) even more concern for their safety - as the ignoramous in society, will tar all Moslems with the same brush. I also question why these females, whose make-up and attire is so westernised as to negate any Islamic tenets (fine - except Islam was their get-out clause) why were they not also charged for attacking Lewis?which the video clearly shows they did, whilst he tried to defend Rhea. Not the LEAST bit surprised to see the female policewoman jabbing her finger in Lewis's face - with her back to one of the protagonists, who came back to finish the job. Why were the female yobs not handcuffed immediately, instead of the policewoman (one assumes) lecturing Lewis not to retaliate - even the policeman seems to be pushing Lewis away from Rhea at one point - I am SOOOOOOOOOO ashamed to be English



yrret


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The judge has a perfectly valid argument here, and I applaud him. If people have been exposed to a situation they are not trained in or comfortable with, then reason should be applied, and lenience given.



Now, I'm not particularly used to handling an AK47, but if anyone can lend me one I'll happily pop along to a mosque or two on Friday and give it a bash.



On a more positive not, don't forget that in both Iraqu and Afghanistan Muslims (often from differing sects) are killing each otehr every day, and it doesn;t get much more efficient than that, so be gretaful for small mercies.



steve.sewell


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Take there council houses away and send them back to where they come from, if they cant respect our christian country and natives. In britain its not racist to call someone a white this or that, if it was the other way round it would of been three years behind bars. Britain is finished its a free for all now.



steve.sewell


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Islam causes more trouble in the world then anything else, thank allah that the turkish cypriots have a more tame version.



bigjuss


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the uk is a skint,grey little island full of scum.........get out while you can!!



Tonyta


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Bigjuss, if that is your opinion I am very pleased to see the back of you, but can you take yourself to other than Cyprus. Britain is a Utopia for the world, with its free housing, free health care, free schooling and benefits for all. Its just a pity we do not look after our own in the same way. SCUM, i do not think so.



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Msg's 2 re-edited for reason given in message 15!



philbailey


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What I don't understand is why is this not a hate crime?



Erkin


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Msg 20, it might be skint but it has one of the best legal systems and justice in the world, Yes they get free handouts but most people that get that are in need of it, not cheating the system where people work and claim benefits as well.



At leat it cares to a point, how many people in this country returned back home carring money in suitcases of the decent tax payers of the UK by cheating the system and bailing out back to Cyprus.



Quarmby


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On a slightly lighter note, I went to the dispensary at our local doctor's today to pick up one box of pills. Thye lady dispenser put the box of pills into a paper bag, I said that I did not need the bag but she insisted, so I commented that it was a waste of money, but she said it had to be put into a bag, why ? I asked. She explained that it was to protect my privacy if I accidently dropped them outside, so no one could see what I was taking! so if I did drop the bag what if someone opened the bag and saw what I was taking? Another example of PC gone mad. Sorry if off topic.



teatime


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Msg 19: Christianity don't do to bad at causing trouble in the world.



Blackpoolfan


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Look at the world today and its past, Religion is in most cases the root of all evil Fact!!!!! All a load of brainwashing junk, my opinion of course



BlueButterfly


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Why does religion have to come in to it. Muslims are muslims because they were born to muslim parents, practicing or not. TC,s are muslim for the same reason but the majority are not practicing muslims, only usually entering a mosque for funerals. I don,t know about now, but for my generation at least , being christened was almost obligatary, so, every day, crimes are committed by people who, by definition, are christian but how many times does a news report mention this fact.



The fact is, this 'girl gang' are just evil people hiding behind a religion that they probably know nothing about. I wonder, how many of them have actually seen the Quoran or know where the nearest mosque is.



I know a lot of good, honest. true muslims who despair of how the world is going, don,t tar them all with the same brush.



girne 29


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bigjuss

''the uk is a skint,grey little island full of scum.........get out while you can!! ''



I am sure the average Brit hopes you stay away from a country you abhor,Especially those'' scum'' who cant afford the luxury of sitting in a property abroad bad mouthing . Going by what most people think about the morals of those of us that have bought property here , we would do better to keep quiet about the behaviour of those in the UK

Bet you dont have the courage of your convictions and rip up your passport and p-ss off for good. No,UK is not that bad that you wouldnt want to avail yourself of the NHS later on ,or the Navy to come and get you when things get bad.Paid of course by the taxes of the ''scum''.



bertieboss


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Message 18 and 19 - Nice to see the usual Xenophobic and racist nonsense from someone so well educated and articulate !! Get out more !!

And if anyone thinks UK is finished - think again and stop reading the daily mail.

Still one of the most civilised countries in the world despite its current problems and what country hasn't got problems?

Too much spent on needless interference in other countries and hopeless conflicts as has been the case for many decades!!

Why did we not learn from the Yanks in Vietnam??



MsGarnet


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Ms 25 - to digress also - my car broke down, I rang Greenflag, and being on a mobile running out of charge, immediately gave my name and reg number. The woman stopped me saying I WASN'T to give any information until asked for it, and because I now had told her my name and car reg, she would have to go through a looooooooooooooooong question and answer session to ascertain I was who I said I was, and owned the car I told her I was sitting in, having broken down!!!!! I told her my mobile could run out any minute, and I was in an isolated spot (no passing person I could stop to attract attention) to which she replied, she HAD to do this, for Data protection - to protect me!!!!!!!! Pathetic - I wanted to scream - told her in NO uncertain terms what I thought and she agreed - but as an employee of theirs, had to do this - jobsworths get paid a fortune to think up ever more risible rubbish - whilst the Forces, the NHS, Government leave full family/contact details on discs in cars daily



robgreen


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My brother in-law is a Muslim and lives in Lapta.He drinks very heavy and I will be visiting him this Christmas and New year.



His wife has been looking into him attending AA but it seems on their web that all groups are closed.How can my sister find out when they have an open group that he can attend.She thinks he needs the help ASP.



Please post any help I can give him on my visit.Thank you.



philbailey


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Msg 32, maybe start a new thread

titled about it ,your request may get lost on this one



pollymarples


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Racism rears its ugly head again. Violence and drink often walk hand in hand, of course we all know full well drinking too much causes a lessening of inhibitions, I guess they behaved in a way they would like to when not intoxicated, not uncommon in all drunks of all religions and racial backgrounds. but the drink gave them the dutch courage. It does not matter what race, religion or colour you are, if you commit an act of violence, alcohol induced or not, there should be a punitive sentence.



What a sad world



robgreen


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philbailey.





My sister would just like to know how to take him there he speaks English and Turkish.



Jeannie


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robgreen - if you or your sister Google "Alcoholics Anonymous North Cyprus" contact details are on the web page. If all groups are full, I feel sure they can put you in touch with someone who can help.



I know a lady who is very prominent within AA in N C and feel sure she would be able to help in one way or another. She also speaks Turkish and English, by the way



Good luck.



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