Warning! ladies please read!

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 10:10

yesterday we were warned by a police friend.



there is a man/men going around posing as plain clothes police officers.

they have got into one house,robbed and sexually attacked the female householder.

the police are working to catch the guy/guys.



if someone turns up on your doorstep, not in uniform and wants to enter ,saying they are a policeman.

do not let them in! ask for their name and badge number and call the police to check it!

the police won't mind as they need to catch the culprit asap.



let us all make sure this is a one off incident, and my sympathies for the lady who was the victim of this disgusting attack.



.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 10:12

Where did this happen?

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 10:33

somewhere in girne

Chessman


Joined: 13/05/2008
Posts: 486

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 11:37

Firestarter



Well done for publicising this. Information, such as this, is vital. Are there any descriptions available of these scumbags?

livethedream


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 11:45

Please tell everyone you know.



We need to make sure they don't get the chance to do this again.

Teresa


Joined: 21/11/2007
Posts: 1018

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 11:48

This sounds like a similar incident that was show on the Turkish news the other night. Some men dressed as police went into a club and dragged a woman out by her hair, took her off and gang raped her. This was caught on cctv and thankfully all the men involved were caught.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 12:23

they said they were turkish , but i took this with a pinch of salt as they haven't got them yet! so how would they know? from the description i think.



crime has been on the up and up and the police have been very busy recently with regards to break ins, so keep everything locked up!

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 14:09

That is really shocking and quite unusual in N.Cyprus.

Local friends can tell by the way men dress if they are

Turkish, usually. BUt mustn't jump to conclusions.

The penalty for this premeditated horrific crime must be

very severe (death in some countries)

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 21:18

What's the police telephone number? best to have it near the phone or even in the memory and speedial.

puppylover



Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 1427

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 21:41

Police.....155

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 21:46

Lol, don't need that in the memory! thanks puppylover

lancashirelad


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
04/12/2008 21:47

What is the name of the Police Officer who reported it?

What was the date and location of the alleged offense?

Why has it not been reported in the press?

Is this just another Urban Myth?

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 01:44

puppylover, try phoning 155..................................Emergency?





OR Phone the police station in Girne where you may get a response eventually.



0392 815 2014



Sorry, and thanks firestarter for the info. I only hope that they are caught.



lancashirelad message 12

What is an 'Urban Myth?'



Do you think that every 'crime' is reported in the press?



You sound like you know what it is like to have been a victim or are you an ex POLICE OFFICER ????

lancashirelad


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 08:18

Ballyboffin



An Urban Myth is an untrue, often sensational story - for further information, see here: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_myth



This story has essentially been shown to be untrue here: -



http://trncvillaowners.phpbb3now.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5175



The things to look for in a story like this are: -



An (UN NAMED PERSON) told me that an (UN NAMED PERSON) was attacked/robbed/swindled etc, in (UN NAMED PLACE) at (UN NAMED TIME AND DATE) . They were told this by (UN NAMED POLICEMAN) from (UN NAMED POLICE STATION).



And yes, I do find that most crimes, particularly ones as sensational as this are reported - why would they not be? Reporters earn their living by it, and there is little enough real crime or news!



No, I have not been a victim or a police officer, but I did spend many years in IT, and saw with stories like this frequently.



Please do not be discouraged from posting news which may affect anyone's safety, but do check that it is true first.



F

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 09:39

lancashirelad.



i was told this by a friend , who no i am not going to name for your benefit.

he is a cid office in girne.

close friend may i add.



this is not some 'it 'scam.



you don't know me at all, and you don't know who my friends are,so please don't call me a ,liar.

if you choose not to believe it thats your choice.

iceman


Joined: 15/08/2008
Posts: 724

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 10:26

fire starter

To my knowledge this rumour has nothing to do with Cyprus..

This incident recently happened in Turkey not Cyprus..

Someone is taking you for a ride...



http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/10511107.asp?scr=1

lancashirelad


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 10:54

Firestarter

Please do not take offence.

I did not call you a liar, or even imply it.

All I did was ask some questions about the story as you originally posted it, as certain salient facts seemed to be missing.

I then provided Ballyboffin with answers to the questions that she asked.

If the story is accurate, I cannot understand why the police have not widely publicised a description of the man/men involved, using the newspapers, Television and Radio as they normally do, and why the story has been kept secret, and has only been 'revealed' to yourself.

As you say, it is indeed my choice to believe it or otherwise, without calling you a liar, and my right to say so publicly, and to state the reasons why.

I see that iceman doesn't believe it either, is he calling you a liar? - I don't think so.

I am sorry that you felt that I was attacking your integrity in any way, I am sure that you were acting from the best possible motives.

Fred.

spangles


Joined: 22/10/2008
Posts: 411

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 14:04

There is an article in todays Turkish News newspaper saying that there will be a crackdown of "faux cop crime". Apparently there have been several recent incidents of this type of crime in Turkey. One which caused outrage was when five men dressed as police raided a restaurant in the Avcilar disctrict of Istanbul then dragged a woman into a waiting car and subsequently raped her. The paper points out that in the Fatih disctict of Istanbul a police uniform can be bought for 85ytl.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 14:09

If the story is true or not, Cyprus or Turkey, black or white, at least it has made people aware and hopefully more prepared should anything like this happen in their area.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 15:32

i was told it had happened here.

my friends were warning me to be carefull.

i only posted this to help other people.



i won't bother next time.

Chick-A-Dee


Joined: 16/06/2008
Posts: 342

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 15:50

Firestarter.



Do not be offended or take these things personally, remember, everyone is entitled to add or say 'there bit'.



Thank you for reminding us all to be aware about anyone entering our own personal properties, its always good to be reminded to be 'on guard'. I think for those people who are passionate about their country, they may be offended by someone trying to say something bad without revealing the full facts. He says, she says stories can be very damaging. If your friend in the CID is correct about what happened, then I see no harm in naming your source, with their permission of course, to let people see that your account of the incident is transparent and true ..I see no harm in this.

smudge



Joined: 07/04/2008
Posts: 160

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 17:58

Firestarter. Thank you for sharing the information you were given in good faith.

It is true that there are many urban myths which circulate (including the local shopping centre one where the guy asks you to help him get petrol but gets in the back seat of your car with a briefcase - the contents of which we-ll not go into). I'm pretty sure nobody meant to offend you - probably more just being cautious about what is truth and what is, in fact urban myth.



I really hope it isn't true, but thanks for making us aware of the need to be more cautious in who we trust.

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 19:11

Firestarter.



I do not blame you for being offended. You posted what you heard as a warning and I for one appreciate that.

In July I posted the fact that there was a burglary at my house in Ozankoy and that there had been quite a few around that area at the same time. I had personal e-mails asking me to stop 'scaremongering' and saying that I was exaggerating this crime wave! There were many people being made nervous by my telling them about it. BTW we had another in October.

So many people in TRNC live in little happy bubbles with their heads in the sand and don't WANT to think that nasty things happen there too.



Best Wishes

Pat

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 19:20

RE-Message 14. lancashirelad



I am aware of what an Urban Myth is, i was just clarifying that it meant the same thing in England as it does here. In Northern Ireland we would call it a 'yarn' which roughly translated means a load of sh(one)t.

It would certainly cause great offence if someone accused you of 'yarning' when what you are telling them you believe is true. You would in actual fact be calling them a liar.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 19:22

Firestarter, you posted what you assumed to be correct and thank you for making us all aware. Well done and hopefully you'll continue posting on here.

lancashirelad


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 19:55

Ballyboffin

Although you state that you 'know' what an Urban Myth is, the description that you have given is at odds with the definition at the reference site which I provided: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_myth - the first line states

"An urban legend or urban myth is a form of modern folklore consisting of stories thought to be factual by those circulating them."

I did say "Please do not be discouraged from posting news which may affect anyone's safety, but do check that it is true first. ", and later "I am sorry that you felt that I was attacking your integrity in any way, I am sure that you were acting from the best possible motives."

How do you equate this with calling someone a liar?

I repeat - "I do not doubt firestarter's integrity and good intentions" but I have to say, I think that her reaction - "i won't bother next time" - is rather childish.

Fred.

windmill


Joined: 06/07/2008
Posts: 143

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 21:01

Its well known on this forum that certain posters are trying there best from stopping people buying in North Cyprus

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 21:10

Who are they then Windmill?

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 21:20

Message 26.



Did you google the word yarn?



Here it means a tall story, or a scam.

lancashirelad


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 21:37

Ballyboffin, My point is that 'Yarn' is YOUR definition of Urban Myth, which you are trying to impose on me, I have quite clearly stated what my definition is, and given alink to a widely recognised reference - quite at variance with yours.

At no point have I implied that firestarter was deliberately spreading false information, and I have not at any point denigrated her motives in posting the story.

What are you trying to prove?

Fred.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 22:03

A false alarm with good intent is how this would be summed up by police. Let's all treat it as a general reminder to be on our guard. And us guys had better watch out for sex fiends as well:



http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hPUIW1TUDtqFGYmF9NBDis-XhOFgD94SLRTO0

lancashirelad


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 22:18

Pikey, if by 'us guys' you are identifying yourself with the male escourt named in the news item, you are revealing a facet of your sexuality that you have hitherto denied...

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
05/12/2008 23:29

Message 30. ll.



I am not proving anything. I am so sorry that I have annoyed you. I am merely pointing out that others have different perceptions of phrases used in different cultures.



Peace to you and yours. xx



Pat

lancashirelad


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
06/12/2008 10:11

Ballyboffin

Peace to you and yours also



firestarter

I can understand you feeling a bit miffed, having set out with good intentions.

Sorry for the 'childish' crack - that wasn't very nice of me.

I wish you well.

Fred

ronaldo


Joined: 14/11/2007
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
06/12/2008 10:16

Lancashire Lad ! Well done for that excellent explanation of an URBAN MYTH ! there seems to be a lot of these lately in N/C . But also firestarter your fire has well and truely been dampened ! LOL RON(aldo).

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
06/12/2008 12:38

yesterday i double checked this story with the guys father in law.

yes they knew about the story from turkey, but no it is not the same one.



so believe what you want, thats your choice.



why not go and have a group hug!

but then be carefull who youare hugging.