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littlenige


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Message Posted: 04/12/2008 14:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 12 in Discussion |
| Only DNA samples for those convicted of crimes should be kept, according to the ruling. Photograph: PA Police forces in much of the UK could be forced to destroy the DNA details of hundreds of thousands of people with no criminal convictions, after a court ruled today that keeping them breaches human rights. The European court of human rights in Strasbourg said that keeping innocent people's DNA records on a criminal register breached article eight of the Human Rights Convention, covering the right to respect for private and family life. Keeping DNA material from those who were "entitled to the presumption of innocence" as they had never been convicted of an offence carried "the risk of stigmatisation", the ruling said. Attacking the "blanket and indiscriminate nature" of the power to retain data, the judges said protections offered by article eight "would be unacceptably weakened if the use of modern scientific techniques in the criminal justice system were allowed at any |
littlenige


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Message Posted: 04/12/2008 14:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 12 in Discussion |
| cost and without carefully balancing the potential benefits of the extensive use of such techniques against important private-life interests". The decision could oblige the government to order the destruction of DNA data belonging to those without criminal convictions among the approximately 4.5m records on the England, Wales and Northern Ireland database. Scotland already destroys DNA samples taken during criminal investigations from people, who are eventually not charged or who are later acquitted. |
rocky

Joined: 17/10/2007 Posts: 1749
Message Posted: 04/12/2008 15:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 12 in Discussion |
| so do we all hide in NC until they are destroyed?? |
Hilltop


Joined: 28/04/2008 Posts: 636
Message Posted: 04/12/2008 15:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 12 in Discussion |
| They have my DNA and are welcome to keep it. |
PtePike


Joined: 20/05/2008 Posts: 2334
Message Posted: 04/12/2008 18:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 12 in Discussion |
| "Scotland already destroys DNA samples taken during criminal investigations from people, who are eventually not charged or who are later acquitted." We also treat our pensioners, sick people, children and students in a humane and decent way. Great country. |
fire starter

Joined: 19/06/2008 Posts: 3401
Message Posted: 05/12/2008 10:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 12 in Discussion |
| i don't see the big issue? if you haven't done anything wrong, it doesn't matter. |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 05/12/2008 10:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 12 in Discussion |
| fire starter - exactly. |
rocky

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Message Posted: 05/12/2008 10:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 12 in Discussion |
| If Scotland is such a great country why do people move to England and elsewhere? In England I guess for employment money and to see decent football, well at Ipswich anyway |
aweverard

Joined: 13/07/2008 Posts: 54
Message Posted: 05/12/2008 11:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 12 in Discussion |
| PP Msg 5 Something has got to mitigate the climate ;) Regards, AWE |
cruggs

Joined: 06/04/2008 Posts: 498
Message Posted: 05/12/2008 13:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 12 in Discussion |
| the two people, concerned had not been convicted of a criminal,act.so why should their d.n.a.be kept on a police record.i have no objection to convicted, criminal,s d.n.a.being kept, but we are all innocent untill proven guilty. |
teatime

Joined: 20/10/2008 Posts: 852
Message Posted: 05/12/2008 13:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 12 in Discussion |
| Message 5: "We also treat our pensioners, sick people, children and students in a humane and decent way. Great country." Yeah, with English subsidies. |
windmill

Joined: 06/07/2008 Posts: 143
Message Posted: 07/12/2008 13:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 12 in Discussion |
| For once i have to agree with message 6 Now theres a turn up for the books |
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