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goztop


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20/12/2011 11:38

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I know there have been a lot of posts about the Kindle but as far as I can tell, none of them have answered my question. I'm really interested in buying a Kindle but I'm not sure it would work here. On Amazon, a lot of books say "This title is available to UK customers only" with no price. I've been using amazon for years and my address is in Cyprus, as is my credit card information. Does anyone know if I can get around this? If not, it's not worth buying the Kindle at all. Any other recommendations for ereaders where there are no limitations to the books you can buy? Thank you!



numpty


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20/12/2011 11:45

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Maybe you need to register from a UK address,Mine is and i have no problems.

Hope this helps



Agobard


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20/12/2011 11:51

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I have a Kindle, my Amazon Account is registered to my address in TRNC and I have absolutely no problems at all.



goztop


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20/12/2011 12:42

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Thanks. What about your credit card? Is it from here or the UK?



Agobard


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20/12/2011 15:14

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It's a UK card but also registered to my TRNC address so this shouldn't make any difference at all.



goztop


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20/12/2011 15:19

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I think that's what makes the difference because I've had plenty of my Amazon packages sent to a UK address rather than Cyprus but I still don't qualify as a UK customer. Thank you!



ranger5


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20/12/2011 16:58

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Gpztop, I too have some problems with Amazon. I am registered with them from my UK address, but the accounts department sent me an email saying it appeared I was not living in the UK and that some books were not available to non UK residents.They must have picked this up from my ISP address. They went on to ask for proof of identity eg passport, driving licence or military id. (I don`t think so Amazon}



I am going to try ordering more books and see what happens, but all is not straight forward.



SteveAustin



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20/12/2011 19:54

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Do what my wife does, buy the books on Ebay, arrive on DVD, load onto laptop and drag and drop onto Kindle or use free Calibre Ebook software.

Bought nearly 9000 books last week on 4 DVDs for less than a tenner, some good authors too.



Mike.



Ossie


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20/12/2011 21:17

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SteveAustin,9000 books on 4 DVDs ! I find that hard to believe and how on earth are you ever going to read that many in your lifetime?



SteveAustin



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I don't read them, my wife is an avid reader, sometimes two to three books a day, books on DVD's already in kindle format, she bought 8000 on two dvd's (romance) 92 James Patterson on another and 300 New York Best sellers on another, less than a tenner for the lot.

Took around ten minutes to load 200 to her kindle and saves a fortune not having to pay Amazon for something that you do not even own.

If you want a link to the seller on Ebay let me know.



Mike.



Groucho



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20/12/2011 21:39

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"9000 books on 4 DVDs ! I find that hard to believe"

Why is it hard to believe?

A DVD (bog standard) can hold over 4GB of data... books are very compact.



shrimp


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20/12/2011 21:43

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message 10..........I am hoping for a kindle for christmas and this link sounds like a good deal.......can you email it to me please Mockham@yahoo.co.uk .........many thanks.............



SteveAustin



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20/12/2011 21:58

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Hi Shrimp.



Sent email.



Mike.



SteveAustin



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Hi Shrimp,



just got email unable to deliver notice can you repost email address.



Mike.



ranger5


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20/12/2011 22:31

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Hi Mike, would appreciate same to r_c_paterson@hotmail.co.uk

Many thanks



SteveAustin



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Hi Ranger, email sent.



Mike.



ranger5


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Cheers Mike



LaptaMike


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20/12/2011 22:53

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I have no problems with my kindle. I have a VPN to the UK on my computer so I order them on that and then turn the wifi on my kindle on and it downloads it automatically. Never had a problem.



SteveAustin, you could also use the newsgroups on the internet, I have downloaded loads of ebooks over the years. I suppose for the price you've mentioned it's more convenient buying a load on DVD ;-)



ranger5


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20/12/2011 23:00

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Mike,

How do I get a vpn?



LaptaMike


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20/12/2011 23:06

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https://www.my-private-network.co.uk/





that's the one I use



LaptaMike


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by the way, they offer a vpn to the USA aswell so you can watch American TV



shrimp


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message 14, woops, sorry try this one, mockham@hotmail.co.uk .......................thanks............



Agobard


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21/12/2011 07:47

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Message 18: this is odd. I also have a UK VPN but have no need to use it for downloading books on my Kindle because there has never been a problem. Downloading music is another matter, for this I do have to use my UK VPN.



CarrieRBag



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21/12/2011 08:59

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Can you also send the link to suesteel@hotmail.com Thanks



SteveAustin



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21/12/2011 22:28

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Shrimp and CarrieRBag,



email sent,



Mike.



LaptaMike


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21/12/2011 22:39

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msg23, the VPN runs automatically. I've not tried logging out of it and trying to order then.



goztop


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22/12/2011 09:46

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Thank you everyone for your responses

LaptaMike: You just made my day! This is what I was looking for. Thank you!



goztop


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22/12/2011 09:49

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LaptaMike: Can you please explain how this works. If you have a VPN, can you access everything as if you're in that country then? If so, what about addresses? Does having a Cyprus address affect what you can view? Sorry for the dumb questions but I'm a bit clueless when it comes to these things! Thanks.



Ranger5: Were you able to solve your problem with your Kindle?



aussiejock



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22/12/2011 13:03

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just go into torrentz.com or The Pirate Bay, and download as many books as you want and use bitcomet to download them to your hard drive, use calibre ( free to Download ) to convert them to MOBI format, you will find that a lot of books are in EPUB format, sounds hard but you would get the hang of it very quickly, and each book is around 1.5meg, so a thousand meg = 1 Gig, so you should get around 3.000 books on each DVD. you get John Grisham, Tom Clancy, JD Robb, Nora Roberts, James Patterson, the list just goes on. any book that you can think of,





Robert



LaptaMike


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22/12/2011 13:23

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msg28, when you connect to a vpn the rest of the world thinks your in the country where the vpn is so if you use a UK vpn you can watch British tv for example.



Using a Cypriot billing address is another matter entirely. With amazon.co.uk you 'may' be able to register a Cypriot card to an account but I don't know because I've never tried. Sorry I can't be of more help on that point.



greengate8


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22/12/2011 13:41

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Goztop

My wife and i both have kindles registered to a Uk address with amazon, and TRNC ISP. We have no trouble downloading books from amazon (with TRNC credit card).



If you have a 3G version you can dowload anywhere in the world (as advertised).



I have also tried Aussiejock's method - there are lots of good authors available. As he says - get 'Calibre' and you can convert different formats relatively easy.



ranger5


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22/12/2011 14:16

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Goztop - msge 28. Amazon.co.uk would not let me download any more books, so I contacted their

helpline. They told me that amazon.co.uk is not allowed by law to sell books to people not resident

in the uk, but suggested I could use amazon.com.

When I said I registered my kindle at my uk address and pay for any books from my uk bank a/c

she said she would remove the bar to allow me to download 5 more books and in the meantime would refer my

situation to her boss.

So it looks like I will have to take advantage of the other options available



paul90


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Re message 8

Hi SteveAustin

Would also appreciate the link please.

Many thanks.



PapaBravo


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22/12/2011 18:01

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Steve, me too for the ebay link please, to: pat@patbland.fsnet.co.uk

Thanks



lilaclady


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22/12/2011 20:22

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hi steve austin i am getting a kindle for christmas could you please send me the link for w bay many thanks and merry xmas send to piscespet26@aol.com



SteveAustin



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Paul, Papa, Lila.



amail sent.



Mike.



SammieB



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23/12/2011 09:29

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goztop

I have no prob with my 3G kindle...downloaded 27 books just last night...each one taking about 10 seconds...very impressive!



Sam



deputydawg


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The Wildebeest (bless her) wants a Kindle amongst other things for Christmas but I have "cocked a deaf'un" and will try and make out that I thought she said "a cuddle" ! Actually, I have bought her one and it is hidden in UK and not available to her until Jan 12 next.



suzi1951


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23/12/2011 19:14

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I used Amazon.com



goztop


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Thank you everyone!



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