the cheek of them....

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 17:07

Just had 2 guys at my door asking for money, i asked them what for..the said tips for christmas..i said your not christians you are muslim...why you asking for tips..cant believe the cheek of it..who started all this crap !!! needless to say the got the hole in the doughnought from me...bah humbag !!!!

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 17:09

Humbug !!!!!!

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 17:14

Ive just had them round too, tis the season of goodwill, besides having tipped them in the past, they do remember you when it comes to rubbish collection, drains unblocked etc.

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 17:23

Jock,its for christmas & new year,they might not celebrate xmas but they do celebrate new year,i tipped them because they have done a great job through the year,and if your wondering,''who started this crap'' THE BRITS lol merry christmas all

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 17:29

why did they not ask my Cypriot neighbours...i will tell you they would have laughed at them, i asked them why they dont go to my neighbours..aww look for the hard of hearing here...i have paid for a service that i have not had for 3 years.now that is only been in use for a couple of months..im not tipping anyone !!

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 17:34

Hope they don't come to us because we have to go miles to put our rubbish in a bin, no road, only street lighting. I agree with Jock 1 why tip for services you do not receive.

BizziLizzi


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 855

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 18:07

Well said ttolli and vonny



The dustbinmen turned up for a seasonal tip it seemed five minutes after I moved in and was in a state of chaos! It amused me rather than anything else - just like being back in England!! I tipped them (but not a lot!) and have been doing so ever since - and, unlike England, the same men. I have never had the problems with rubbish collection (and sometimes awkward items) , again unlike England.



These are just workmen and poorly paid. They are not responsible for the decisions , actions and omissions of the authorities or developers. They do an unpleasant job in unpleasant conditions (the same people had to deal with the cull during the bird flue epidemic) reasonably cheerfully.

gusanova


Joined: 23/11/2010
Posts: 187

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 18:16

Well Jock, what else would i have expected from you, but do see your point cabbage heid!!!

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 18:43

birds droppings springs to mind........

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 18:48

Jock1, did you explain that you are a Scottish man? ....

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 19:11

Msg 7. are they government employees ?

do they not have a job for life

and a good pension?

gusanova


Joined: 23/11/2010
Posts: 187

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 19:11

Touche Jock,



Seasons greetings from Somalia, health, wealth and happiness for 2012!!

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
21/12/2011 19:30

jock , happy christmas .

Riddles


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 429

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 00:44

The collection service is spot on ...twice a week in Lapta! (unheard of back in the UK)

And collecting bottles from some 'Brits' must be more challenging than from others!

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 13:31

If my binmen come a'calling they will leave with a flea in their ear. To date they have broken the lids on two of my bins, leave my bin in the middle of the road and frequently leave the road littered with...........litter.



Bah Humbug .....



And before you ask, no I am not a 'Sweaty'



Paul

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 13:47

I think the point is missed here. It's not so much about tipping workers, as this is acceptable practice, no matter where in the world you live. It's the fact that they "knock on the door in expectation" rather than leave judgment to the householder.



This, in my opinion, is not appropriate and is simply rude, intrusive and for some elderly may be seen as intimidating. Poor manners in my book and certainly unacceptable practice.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 16:16

@ msg 14, riddles: (...) The collection service is spot on ...twice a week in Lapta! (unheard of back in the UK) (...)



▶ The collection service is spot on ...twice a week in Yeşiltepe! (Unheard of back in Holland).

Even irregular 'things' are taken - not one problem ever.

Not one reason not to tip these binmen, who didn't let us down in almost eight years.

Thank you, Alsancak binmen, for doing this ungrateful job in the early morning hours.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 16:44

Bradus i strongly agree...imagine a waiter or waitress asking for a tip...i think its way over the top to knock in anyone's door asking for a tip especially as they are getting paid for there job

Dc if you want to tip the binmen by all accounts go ahead its up to the individual...but this is taking it to the extreme...cmon its taking the p***

i think the next bayram i will knock on my all my neighbours doors and ask for money !!!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 17:52

I dont get a bin collection now but in Karsiyaka the dustmen deserved it, they would take all the garden rubbish and were always polite. I give the lady in Lapta post office chocs every Christmas, it ensures my mail makes it into my postbox and she is very pleasant.

BizziLizzi


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 855

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 17:54

That is actually a good point Bradus. It illustrates the difference between here and the UK. In the UK I would be nervous about opening the door to strange men if I was on my own . Here I know the men concerned, know their boss if ever there were problems, and know that neighbours are aware of what goes on. Please dont spoil the secururity this involves by insulting them.





Anyway how else would they get tips? Is anyone likely to get up in the early hours to catch them (and they usually come and go pretty quickly) to wish them ' Yeni Yılınız Kutlu Olsun' and give them a tip?



Though come to think of it how do the dustmen in the UK get tips? I seem to remember they did knock on the door, but it was a long time ago and my memory may be at fault.



What I have heard is that in the UK they wont collect at all unless you take your bin(s) to the exact spot, no matter how heavy or how far, or how elderly, ill or disabled you may be.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 18:35

The whole point is asking for a tip its not on !!!!

tania


Joined: 09/12/2011
Posts: 116

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 18:59

The whole point is asking for a tip its not on !!!!



So,if you knew some one who knew someone and told you a horse to back - a tip - you would ignore it.

post 20 - last statement exactly correct. Also, if any (extra i.e. bags are left at the side) you have no chance. Bin and nothing else.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 19:23

well guys if your happy with someone knocking on your door and asking for money, not only that not asking my cypriot neighbours for money just brits..well on you go guys..not this guy !!

tania


Joined: 09/12/2011
Posts: 116

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 19:32

Were you also Mr happy when you were in the UK when little kids came round at halloween??

money for nothing except an old joke or song they wanted - or were you a big grumpy sour face then as well



Merry Xmas and a grumpy new year - again by the looks of it

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 19:44

tania your pushing the boat out now..and going off track i dont have to justify my anything to you..i hope the next time you go to the butchers..he turns round to you and ask's for a tip...i would love to see your face.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
22/12/2011 21:13

My point does not illustrate the difference between the TRNC and the UK BizzieLizzie, it shows the difference in it's peoples.



Obviously some must think it is their God Given Right to get a tip whilst others think it should be at the discretion of the home-owner. For several years my son had a paper round and often got tips from his customers at Christmas but if I had found out he had been knocking on their doors and asking for tips, I would have felt embarrassed and ashamed. Luckily although young he would never have done such a thing.



I'm with Jock on this and whether it is done in the UK or TRNC it is not acceptable behaviour.

By the way,I have excellent bin man and they certainly deserved their tip.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 02:48

Any country, anywhere, nobody should not be asking for tip. It is for the customer to give as they feel

and that depends on how their service has been. We have always given generously, if deserved.

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 12:54

Jock1. I totally understand your justifiable reaction. Before the days of multi coloured bins in UK I placed what must have amounted to a couple of cups of grass cuttings into a bin enclosed in a plastic shopping bag. It had earlier rained when I had emptied the lawnmower basket onto the compost heap so I cleaned the lawnmower in the garage, hence the small amount of cuttings in the bin. The next morning at the end of the road where I had carried the bin to for collection I found a pile of burst plastic bags and rubbish on the footpath emptied from my dustbin which bore a red printed label marked "garden waste is not an item for which the council have responsibility to dispose of" The next time I put the bin out I left it with their notice on but added with sellotape a small cardboard package marked "for your Xmas box". Within was a part used tube of hemorroid cream.

Nugget


Joined: 06/12/2011
Posts: 11

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 13:43

It can only happen to you LOL

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
23/12/2011 14:12

I had a muslim woman knock at my door. I talked to her through the letterbox to let her know how it feels.

I always tip the binmen here, because they deserve it, not just because they knock, mind you living on the top floor they don't actually knock.

T

ps yeah, the muslim woman didn't knock either. Someone made that up.