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newlad


Joined: 02/03/2008 Posts: 7819
Message Posted: 22/12/2011 17:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 17 in Discussion |
| Just like Stockie steels mate, Paul. |
Tatlisu4me

Joined: 26/01/2008 Posts: 436
Message Posted: 22/12/2011 17:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 17 in Discussion |
| Avit. "As Norman bites yer leg said" |
DutchCrusader


Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 22/12/2011 17:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 17 in Discussion |
| Amazing? A bl**dy shame. On (my club) Ajax. For allowing entrance to a drunk and known hooligan (officially not allowed to be in stadium at all!). However, the referee was right presenting his red card to AZ goalkeeper Esteban. He HAD to. Rules. Wrong, but 'the Rules'. Result. Ajax may be punished with a 0-3 loss and some matches without people in the stadium. Or. AZ may be punished with a 0-3 loss because the team left the field. Goalkeeper Esteban may be punished for kicking (more than one time): one or more matches. And the scum who caused this problem? Punishment? A laugh. Wasn't it a Brit who said: "Football is a game for gentlemen, but unfortunately it's played by hoodlums". We (certainly in Holland) can now add that football is too often watched by scum. What a shame. |
DutchCrusader


Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 22/12/2011 18:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 17 in Discussion |
| 6 pm local time, on Dutch radio: the red card for AZ goalkeeper Esteban has been withdrawn by the KNVB (Royal Dutch Football Association). Although the referee was right, says KNVB. Well done. |
theparson

Joined: 28/05/2011 Posts: 129
Message Posted: 22/12/2011 18:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 17 in Discussion |
| Its not as clear cut as that......... The Dutch goalkeeper would be in the clear if he had not retaliated in such an aggressive manner and has now left himself open for a charge of assault by the fan. The police could (but probably wont) also charge the goalkeeper with assault as he did not react purely in self defence. I can see another nice pay day for the lawyers. |
tomsteel

Joined: 22/06/2009 Posts: 482
Message Posted: 22/12/2011 19:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 17 in Discussion |
| DC - give the 'fan' (sic) to the AZ crowd for their opinion of just reward. The GK should be lauded for presenting to hooligans their likely outcome on pitch invasions occurring assault on players/officials. |
Riddles

Joined: 26/04/2011 Posts: 429
Message Posted: 22/12/2011 20:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 17 in Discussion |
| Msg 4 Extensive research by Sean Fagen has concluded that the original quote (referring to RU and football but not specifying) was - "..one is a gentleman's game played by hooligans; the other a hooligan's game played by gentlemen..." and is attributed to an unknown Chancellor of Cambridge University. |
minertor


Joined: 14/02/2009 Posts: 1238
Message Posted: 22/12/2011 23:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 17 in Discussion |
| msg 4>..............................However, the referee was right presenting his red card to AZ goalkeeper Esteban. He HAD to. Rules. Wrong, but 'the Rules'.................... Sorry to be pedantic Hans, but as it's you, There are no "rules" in Association Football (soccer) The game is governed by laws. Have a merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year. T |
buddie12

Joined: 07/03/2009 Posts: 36
Message Posted: 23/12/2011 14:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 17 in Discussion |
| good news. 2.9oo blades home derby with wensday all drunk been to mals house . |
blade

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Message Posted: 23/12/2011 17:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 17 in Discussion |
| I think the goal keeper was justified. The person/ supporter attacking him could have been any type of nutter how did he know. ? He just defended himself like anyone else would have done when confronted by the unknown. |
theparson

Joined: 28/05/2011 Posts: 129
Message Posted: 23/12/2011 19:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 17 in Discussion |
| I still think this will end up with the Goalkeeper ending up in court facing a charge of assault. If hes really unlucky he could be sharing the same cell with John Terry. |
Rottolover


Joined: 21/06/2009 Posts: 519
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 14:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 17 in Discussion |
| Riddles, I think it's rugby league that is referred to as the "hooligans' game played by hooligans"... The reversal of the red card was, IMO, the correct result, as was the jailing of the pitch invader, but as an Australian I'd be culturally prohibited from kicking a man when he's down. The world-wide publicity of the occurrence will hopefully draw attention to his actions, which were, again IMO, unimpressive. |
slatnumber7

Joined: 25/08/2010 Posts: 299
Message Posted: 30/12/2011 14:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 17 in Discussion |
| blade Msg 12 No doubt the goalies first kick could be deemed as an act of self defence but not the subsequent kicks. A sad spectacle in the name of sport. What's more in my view, made much worse, is that young people who are interested in football regard the footballing stars as heroes and see their heroes conduct as normal and copy it. The goalie should be disciplined in such a fashion that sends out a message to all players and spectators alike, that this type of conduct in sport will not be tolerated. As for the manager leading his team off the park in protest to the referees decision, he should join the ranks of the unemployed. |
deputydawg

Joined: 30/03/2010 Posts: 1727
Message Posted: 31/12/2011 00:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 17 in Discussion |
| It brought a whole new meaning to "penalty kick in the box" ! The fan(?) is lucky that he did not also get a "blow job" off the referee for being behind the goalkeeper and in an offside position. |
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