RoC are stealing gas deposits

BillBarnacle


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 00:44

As the recent gas find by the RoC in block 12 Aphrodite lies directly south of the sovereign base area at Episkopi is it in fact the case that legally the gas reserves in part belong to the UK and will the RoC have to concede some or all of the profit to the UK

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 00:58

What crap are you talking about, only the sovereign base and 5NM of sea belongs to the UK, The rest belong to RoC, read the chapter on sovereign rights of 1959.

As the British haven't caused enough damage to Cyprus in the 50s and 60s now you want to claim some of the profits for the UK.



It is time that all sovereign bases in Cyprus were closed and the land handed back to the people of Cyprus.

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 01:25

Erkin,

Thanks for that.

Has the UK not provided, over many years, sanctuary, support, welfare and hospitallity to Cypriots in general.

Just look at the london communties of Greek and Turkish Cypriots. Many have become very successfull through hard work and strugle.

The British involvement in Cyprus has not indeed been a rose scented book, mistakes were made and the mess on the island is a shame. However the two factions and administartions on the island are the current shame and they are well at fault in maintaining a human catastophe that thrives on hate, resentment, greed and short sightedeness. Shame on these people.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 01:55

Waz,.. you are soooo right





Some people have very short memories.

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 02:56

Sancuary and support to Cypriots were given mainly beacuse they were mostly workers in the sovereign bases in the 50s.

I can assure you msg 4 I do not have a short memory at all. As a London born Cypriot myself, I have seen the pain the Cypriots have gone through.

Just beacuse the UK has provided does not mean to say the the UK has to been given share of the profits.

to be honest, this latest gas finding will not do any good for Cyprus what so ever,

1. E.U will increase the payments on what Cyprus pays into the E.U

2. The RoC goverment has already borrowed 2.4Billion euros from Russia to pay of the debts now, which means that they have already purchased the gas supply.

3. All talks between the north and south will fail due to Gc demands will be more.

4. The Gc have already started to complain that the gas profits should not be shared with the Tc.

5. looking at all other countries in the Arab world and the people have not benefited from the income at all.

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 09:16

Fair enough, so the Cypriots should have a share of North Sea Gas then???

Geoff

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 12:24

WHAT DID THE BRITS EVER DO FOR US?

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 12:40

We learnt you how to moan...

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 12:59

Oh dear,.... Shocking grammar I hang my head in shame.



We "taught" you how to moan taught you I say.

jamboree


Joined: 25/06/2011
Posts: 88

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 15:17

brits did stir up the sh1t between the tc's and gc's then left them to it, thank you very much. some people just like to stir up with out knowing the facts or do you? mr bb mesg 1. cyprus belongs to the cypriots not uk...

britain has kept very quiet of the past 40 years over the issue of cyprus, as it has what it wants from cyprus and that is its bases.

so as long as the bases are ok the tc's and gc's can fight and disagree all they like.

erkin speaks a lot of truth and facts on this issue, i wish some people would post facts and not pesant fiction. thats all i have to say on this matter, thank you



happy new year.

BillBarnacle


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 17:11

I think it is only right the UK exerts its legal rights over Cyprus in respect of any gas finds.The SBAs are sovereign UK territory and this may extend to the sea area also.



As for what the Brits did for Cyprus - We gave you your independence and look how well you did.

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 19:50

Msg 11



you gave us independence, don't think so, like all other countries which the Crown ruled has had to fight nail and tooth around the world to regain independence back to the real owners of the land.



India for starters? how many lost their lives in order to regain India back?

Middle east? from 3 countries that existed in the middle east, the crown chopped into little bits in order to keep control over small controls with arms sales.



The Crown has always been good and starting something then sitting back and watching the fireworks explode, good business sales on arms.

The Crown knew back then that only hiring Tc to work in the SPS that the greeks would kick up a stink about it, but they also knew that in order for the Gc to take control of the island and send many of the Tc into exile into other crown states would work faster.

Did you know that in Australia there are over 50,000Tc alone. The crown has a lot to account for of the problems around the world.

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 19:55

You see the British Goverment has always tried to act clever, as I recall under the annan plan, they were to return of the sovereign bases back to the Gc control in exchange for expansion of the sea control around the sovereign base in Episkopi back in 2004.



Now we know why they tried to that, smell of gas 7 years earlier.



The crown doesn not give up anything for nothing, now it comes to light.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 20:15

they,re not that clever , nice little tax haven eh .

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 20:49

Erkin,

You clearly are the recipient of by gone British prosperity. I find it strange that you seem to want to bite the hand that has provided for you in the past.



International Politics is for sure a real dog fight and the Uk should not be singled out as the only party wishing to maximise advantage in any negotiations.

The British empire is a by gone era same as that of the Romans and Greeks.

Cyprus has always had a very cosmopolitan history of occupiers , rulers and citizens. It is a shame that the current administers lack the ability and will to move forward in unison. Instead their zenophobic attitudes and racial hatred only hinders the possibility of peace, prosperity and sucess for the island as a whole.

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 21:27

racial ?



I am not a racial person and will not tolaret it,



peace has long gone, we all missed that boat 7 years ago.

steveafc


Joined: 12/12/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 21:34

total b as usual.............so ban me...........like i give a

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 22:03

steveafc,



ref your message 17, are you talking about the Arsenal defence.!!!!

Sid447


Joined: 15/05/2009
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
02/01/2012 22:22

quote ........"India for starters? how many lost their lives in order to regain India back?"



Nowhere near as many as after independence when they fought amongst themselves over religious belief and founded East and West Pakistan.



quote....... "Middle east? from 3 countries that existed in the middle east, the crown chopped into little bits in order to keep control over small controls with arms sales."



Having lived and studied in the Middle East for the past eleven years you might want to re-consider that one. It's not even close.



How people love to complain, eh! If it had been a French or Spanish Colony before you'd certainly have even more to drip about.