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Hamish


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20/01/2012 18:15

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KAR are very pleased to announce that a KAR dog named Dexter has successfully arrived in the UK today. He travelled, accompanied, this morning from Ercan to France (via Istanbul) with Turkish Airlines. His new owners met him in Paris and then drove him in their vehicle to the UK via the Channel Tunnel. All his paperwork was checked and cleared at The Animal Reception Area after booking in as a dog travelling under the Regulations of the 3rd Country Animal Health Certificate.

All of Dexter's preperation and his 3 month waiting period was started and completed in the TRNC. The same regulations will apply to animals travelling overland.

KAR are very happy that Dexter has a new "forever" home in the UK.

If anyone would like any further info or guidance about the process please contact KAR 0533 8694098 or kar@kyreniaanimalrescue.org.

KAR hopes that this stops any further speculation and mis-information about animals travelling ,legally , to the UK - it can be done and it HAS been done



philbailey


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20/01/2012 18:19

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I wonder if this will reduce the number

of please re-home my dog threads



davpat


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Congratulations to both KAR & Dexter,well done!





David



Marion


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20/01/2012 18:54

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Fantastic news. Thanks for sharing it.



erolz


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20/01/2012 19:00

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Thanks for the update Hamish.



It is sad that so much unecessary confusion has been caused by a certain poster, consistently posting incorrect information for 6 months about what the UK changes would mean to those wishing to move their animals from here to the UK, despite repeated attempts by myself and you and others to correct them. However that is now all water under the bridge and hopefully from now on c44 can be a place where people can get good information and not be a source of confusion.



the2ofus


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20/01/2012 19:10

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WOOP WOOP - or should that be WOOF WOOF .

Well done everyone at KAR who has been/is involved with the cats and dogs going to UK under the new regs. I know how hard it has been to listen to, and read, some of the "rubbish" that has been put on this board about the subject. While all the time you couldn't say anything because you didn't want to add to the threads until you knew what you had to say was FACT. All the time you were all working hard at making sure everything that needed to be done was done. Now it is FACT.

Lets hope that , in future, some of the "doubting Thomas's " or whatever their member names may be - will check their FACTs before posting them on here.

As the age old saying goes "Up yours" to certain members !



Lilli



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20/01/2012 19:59

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Excellent news. Very well done and thank you for putting so many minds at rest. I wish Dexter a very happy new home in the UK .



bazzagirl


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20/01/2012 21:20

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what about those cruelly abused dogs behind the sea vistas complex any news on the poor souls x



spider


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Thats good news well done.



Dexter and his owner must be very happy and its a comfort for all who are trying to get their pets back.







Spider,X



mikea11


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Message Posted:
20/01/2012 21:26

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Great news KAR and well done.



swyflot


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21/01/2012 00:20

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Well done all at KAR, keep up the good work



metin


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21/01/2012 00:47

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Excellent news !!!!



the2ofus


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21/01/2012 09:40

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This is important so please back to the top.



yrret


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21/01/2012 10:26

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So all we need now is rescue centers in the UK to start shipping their problems to Cyprus, and the books will be re-balanced.



the2ofus


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21/01/2012 16:09

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yrret

The KAR dogs and cats that go to UK , (now, in the past and in the future ) and other Countries - are going because they have a home to go to in that country, Their new family has been to TRNC and chosen that particular dog or cat. More often than not the dog or cat will have chosen them first ha ha !

The new owners pay for ALL of the preperation and travel costs for that dog or cat. They are taking a stray and giving it a home away from TRNC .

KAR are NOT shipping their problems elsewhere so there is no case of "books" to "be re-balanced".

It is just great that the new Regs mean that it will be easier, and generally cheaper, for owners to take their cats and dogs back to UK AND that some of the strays from here will be offered the chance of a new "forever" home when previously, due to Quarantine etc, that was often not feasable.

I know that on the first overland trip (organised by KAR) that there is a mixture of owned dogs and KAR dogs , going to the UK. It is GOOD NEWS.



Fawsley


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22/01/2012 14:07

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That's good news but, what is the cost?



martinD41


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23/01/2012 09:54

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Via France(Paris) in other words through the back door , same as it was 2 years ago...So how have the new DEFRA rules changed anything ??



erolz


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23/01/2012 10:02

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MartinD41, that is exactly what DEFRA have changed, as of the 1.1.2012



Provided you have the correct paperwork and have met the correct conditions, which can now all be done in the TRNC, you can legally enter the UK via ANY third country that has an approved carrier / route into the UK. Such entry is not 'back door' in any way, it is totaly a legitimate means to get your animal from here to the UK and this was NOT the case before the DEFRA changes.



daisythedog


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23/01/2012 10:07

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Fawsley, for full details of all options and approx costs suggest you contact KAR office.

Can tell you here that cheapest is the overlander but takes about 6 days and next available places are not till August.

You can take pet/pets yourself via turkish Airlines on one way ticket to Paris and then in your 'own' car to UK via Calais or you can hire a courier with a return ticket to deliver to Paris for you.

If you fly them to Paris the escorted excess baggage charge is 10 per kilo for total weight of pet and carrier box.



martinD41


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23/01/2012 10:14

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erolz, the method described in msg 1 ,is exactly the route taken by my friends dog 2 years ago, nice to know that as of 1/1/2012, it is now legal.......



erolz


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23/01/2012 10:19

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martinD41, before the changes to use such a route involved 'fudging' paperwork so that it appeared to DEFRA that the animal had come from France so that it's real origiation in the TRNC was obscured. This was not totaly legitimate but was a means that was used before the changes by some. Now since the changes there is no need to do any 'fudging' of paperwork or to obsucre the animals true origination point as being the TRNC. Now you can do everything totaly above board and legitimately and that is a result of the the DEFRA changes.



martinD41


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23/01/2012 10:28

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"Fudging paper work " !Is that the same as Fraud? deary me, who would have thought that of the people concerned...



erolz


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And just to be clear martinD41, the route may have been the same as that taken by your friends two years ago but the process and the cost are not the same. Before the DEFRA changes the process would involve the use of a 'friendly' vet in france who would help to obscure the aniamls paperwork in order to hide its origination in the TRNC and also may have required first geting an EU pet passport for the animal via the RoC, both of which were not entirely legitimate and both of which incurred addtional cost. Now none of that has to be done. The paperwork can all be done totaly legitimately in the TRNC, no need to get an EU pet passport via the RoC and no need for any fudging of the paperwork in France.

The changes made by DEFRA, even though there is no approved carrier yet that goes direct from TRNC to UK, are material and significant to anyone wanting to move thier animals from here to the TRNC.



daisythedog


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23/01/2012 15:20

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martinD41 I trust your msg22 comment is not refering to KAR. All arrangements for animals that went to France prior to 1/1/12 were made by their owners. KAR had no official part of it.

In regard to msg23 - Erol - the 'friendly' vets used in France didn't fudge anything, they were never shown any TRNC paperwork, as the animals all had valid EU pet passports that was all they needed to see, where the animals had come from was just never mentioned!



martinD41


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26/01/2012 16:52

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msg24..... "I trust your msg 22 comment is not referring to KAR"



My msg 22 was referring to the people concerned with the exporting of animals through France to the UK with no mention of the TRNC in the paperwork (pre 1/1/12 changes to DEFRA rules)...I guess they know who they are..



mozgor



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26/01/2012 18:13

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FANTASTIC NEWS and yes, it certainly does clarify what can and what can't be done - well done KAR hopefully Dexter is the first of many to travel to the UK and more ex pats will take their pooches/cats with them when they return back to UK?



martinD41


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26/01/2012 20:26

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Dexter is in fact the first "Legal" pet sent to the UK via France ! Well done KAR, and congratulations to those concerned who re-homed animals from here to the UK via France before it was legal..you know who you are, so do I....



Amber


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27/01/2012 13:07

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Great news. May there be many more happy animals from here that end up in forever homes in UK.

Have a great life Dexter.



cypriotStudnt


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27/01/2012 13:10

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Amazing News!



fireball


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27/01/2012 16:50

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We have just spoken to KAR and their help was invaluable!! Our two cats are now going overland in August and completely straight forward when explained. If you are in any doubt please contact them direct and it is legal. Completely at ease with the whole process now. Congratulations to all involved.



Mrs F



martinD41


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27/01/2012 21:39

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Who did people contact/use for help with exporting animals to UK (dodgy paperwork,avoiding quarantine)before it was legal.?Many did, I am just curious...



daisythedog


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MartinD41 -msg 31? your msg 27- 'you know who you are - so do I' so why do you need to ask the question.

technically you are wrong in stating that Dexter was the first 'legal' pet to leave. 2 dogs and 3 cats left the TRNC for the UK between the 1st and 19th of January but they all had Pet Passports.

Dexter was the first to leave with an 'unlisted county' health certificate under the new regulations.



Tango1


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28/01/2012 16:35

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Well done KAR. At long last correct information with a happy ending. A bit different from the misinformation that has been spouted from two particular people on this Forum for months now.



yorgozlu



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28/01/2012 17:29

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I know an easier and copmlete legal another way.

Much cheaper,much quicker.Your pet is only stuck in cage for max 10 hours,start to finnish.......and it is LEGAL.



If you love your animals as much as I do mine,you'd do it.



I HAVE.



martinD41


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28/01/2012 22:11

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Tango1... Which people are they then?...





Yorg ...please tell, I'm all ears honestly, got to get two cats to UK..ASAP



yorgozlu



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msg 35;



contact me off board.My e-mail is in my profile.



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