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samdavies

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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 14:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 40 in Discussion |
| BREAKING NEWS 12.DEC.08 Former Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos has died. His wife and children were at the hospital when he passed away just after 1pm. Papadopoulos’ death was announced by Director of the Intensive Care Unit of the Nicosia General Hospital Theodoros Kyprianou. Mr. Papadopoulos, 74, had been in critical condition at Nicosia General Hospital for the past few weeks. A Famagusta Gazette reporter at Nicosia Hospital said the former president died at 1.08pm today. Papadopoulos was admitted to hospital on November 19 when he was complaining of back pains, and doctors later confirmed the former president was suffering from lung cancer. Mr Papadopoulos was president of Cyprus from 2003 until the start of this year. Details of his funeral will be announced later. President Christofias has expressed his "deep sorrow" at the news. - Copyright © Famagusta Gazette 2008 |
ilovecyprus

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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 14:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 40 in Discussion |
| Probably not the right thing for me to say at this moment, ( I can probbaly say it because I am not emotionally connected to the man) but its interesting how he has died so quickly afyter losing power. People who have alot of power and then lose it seem to struggle. |
TRNCVaughan

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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 15:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 40 in Discussion |
| Are you sure? |
ilovecyprus

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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 15:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 40 in Discussion |
| Not totally. Some still find other ways to channel that need. Just read about some observations where elderly people who once had control and lost it died unexpectedly. |
DutchCrusader


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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 15:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 40 in Discussion |
| Ben Laden († ?), Papadopoulos (†), other terrorist leaders (†) -- I'm not sorry to be not sorry. |
Amber

Joined: 26/09/2008 Posts: 561
Message Posted: 12/12/2008 15:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 40 in Discussion |
| It was on the news that he died last week????????????????? |
ilovecyprus

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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 16:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 40 in Discussion |
| msge 3 I feel silly now, I now realise your question wasn't aimed at me but the subject |
gibson335

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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 19:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 40 in Discussion |
| Like I said before good riddance to bad rubbish |
CJtill

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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 19:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 40 in Discussion |
| Surely he was not all that bad. At least he was instrumental in preventing the Greek Cypriots carrying out ENOSIS by telling the people not to vote for the Annan plan. Just think where we would all be if he recommened a yes vote. |
Soothsayer

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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 22:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 40 in Discussion |
| I knew he would die A virtual Beer on me for all! |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 22:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 40 in Discussion |
| Corinne "Surely he was not all that bad. At least he was instrumental in preventing the Greek Cypriots carrying out ENOSIS by telling the people not to vote for the Annan plan. Just think where we would all be if he recommened a yes vote." What did you think the Annan plan was? |
PtePike


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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 23:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 40 in Discussion |
| Go on Groucho, tell 'em about Akritas. |
Lemtich


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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 23:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 40 in Discussion |
| The Republic of Cyprus. From EOKA to IKEA in 34 years. What a joke! Or am I missing something here? Lem |
BillyB

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Message Posted: 12/12/2008 23:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 40 in Discussion |
| Its been an emotional day. |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 08:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 40 in Discussion |
| Pike, for once I'm at a total loss as to how somebody could have mixed up Annan and Enosis... and how the no vote prevented it... Any idea? I'm stumped mate... |
Turbo

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 09:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 40 in Discussion |
| Gibson, don't hold back tell us how you really feel. No matter what he did or did not do, the guy is dead and is still an ex-president(and a human being with family), a little respect would not be out of order.. |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 09:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 40 in Discussion |
| Turbo, You could use the same argument for many of the world's despots, so I don't think we would feel the need to show a little repsect for... well, Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin..... the list is endless... A man should be judged by the company he keeps I'm reliably informed by one whose name one dare not speak... don't tell him Pike!.. |
PIPIE

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 09:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 40 in Discussion |
| I think Condolences to the family is in order here |
gibson335

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 09:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 40 in Discussion |
| Turbo What, like he had respect for all the human beings who suffered because of his actions and so what if h is an ex-President. Hitler was more or less President of Nazi Germany, did he deserve respect? I think not Suzanne Yes I am for real and no I am not Mack. The difference being I have a brain which has not been indoctrinated into believing lies and duplicity unlike certain others who post on this Forum!!!!!!!!!!. You don't like my views and sentiments and I don't like yours. Why do you find that so hard to handle or do you and your partner just expect everyone to agree with you despite the fact you are wrong?? |
Turbo

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 09:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 40 in Discussion |
| Whatever... |
Turbo

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 09:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 40 in Discussion |
| Gibson, A little OTT, I think, comparing a man that voted NO on the referendum versus a man that killed millions... Just let him rest in peace and my condolences goes out to his family . |
Turbo

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 09:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 40 in Discussion |
| Groucho, the same goes to you too. A little cuckoo told me already.. |
Turbo

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 09:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 40 in Discussion |
| Goodnight, off to bed, its 11.30 pm here, way past my bedtime. and its suddenly gotten bloody cold in Hollywood, must be snowing in the mountains,, yay,, i may be off skiing on Sunday. ( Only in LA can you go to swimming, lobster lunch in Mexico or Palm springs desert for a nice hot mineral springs soak all in the same day.) papadop, RIP |
gibson335

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 10:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 40 in Discussion |
| Turbo Nothing to do with voting . I am more concerned with his terrorist past when he was responsible for the murder of scores of innocent people ( admittedley not millions but the principle is the same). Also accused of laundering money for Milosevic so a real haven of virtue wasn't he? |
Amber

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 10:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 40 in Discussion |
| Re my previous Message 6 - I don't get this, Ada TV announced that he died last week ?? I was not imagining it, me and my other half saw it. How could they have announced he was dead last week if he wasn't?? |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 10:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 40 in Discussion |
| Turbo, I don't wish his family any harm, much as I don't wish ill to anybody related to someone I would not wish to associate with myself... why would I? I don't find them worthy of blame them unless they supported his asperations to do away with all T/Cs or they too engaged in activities that I don't find compatible with my compassion... There are however many families who suffer grief and I sympathise with them equally... I'm not going to list them all or single out Mr Papadopoulos’ family for special treatment... I think we should just leave them alone... |
PtePike


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 12:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 40 in Discussion |
| gibson: "I am more concerned with his terrorist past when he was responsible for the murder of scores of innocent people..." And your evidence is? |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 14:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 40 in Discussion |
| Pike As a leading member of an association, i.e. no 2 in command, that had a declared aim of the total removal of all T/Cs from the island... and this association took part in terrorist activities that claimed many lives it is as reasonable an assumption that he had blood on his hands as the innocence that your question implied.. He made no secret of his terrorist past, partly as a political expedient which increased his popularity with the GC hardliners those who order or condone acts of violence by those they control are innocent... Or do you believe he was innocent? |
ilovecyprus

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 15:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 40 in Discussion |
| one page obituaty in the Times today. Some interesting facts about his life and Cyprus. you might be able to get access to it on timesonline |
PtePike


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 17:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 40 in Discussion |
| Groucho: "As a leading member of an association, i.e. no 2 in command, that had a declared aim of the total removal of all T/Cs from the island..." You claim this to be true and yet you can't provide any evidence. Why? |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 17:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 40 in Discussion |
| Pike http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/feb/17/eu.cyprus Here's a start for you... maybe you could live up to your self-appointed rep and do some of your own investigations for a change... you are not a cub reporter. Or maybe.... no can't be... |
PtePike


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 17:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 40 in Discussion |
| Sorry Groucho, still not good enough. An oft-repeated lie does not the truth make. Surely you don't believe what one person has written in a newspaper? Some facts and serious evidence please. I provided a neutral source which made no mention of genocide plans or ethnic cleansing of TCs. Have you been peddling this myth for years? |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 17:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 40 in Discussion |
| "An oft-repeated lie does not the truth make. Surely you don't believe what one person has written in a newspaper? " It's never stopped you! |
littlenige


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 18:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 40 in Discussion |
| along with pol pot mao and lenin papadop is dead , why would we want to meet again ?? |
Tiggy

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 18:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 40 in Discussion |
| Gibson...you are entitled to your point of view. Evidence. evidence, EVIDENCE. & the smart arsed comments will still be forthcoming. May the man rest in Peace (his maker will decide) |
gibson335

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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 18:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 40 in Discussion |
| Little Boy in the Sailor Suit msg 30 By his own admission if you bothered to read rather than spout what you normally do. As for msg35 you are taking your comedy routine to new heights by saying this.Still waiting for you to take upo my offer of a meeting with some TC.'s to discuss what actually happened or are you too afraid to listen to the truth. By your deafening silence so far since I made this offer I assume the cowardice has won!!!!!!!!! Tiggy You too should read a bit more as Papadopoulos has admitted his past on more than one occasion |
PtePike


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 23:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 40 in Discussion |
| gibson: "Still waiting for you to take upo my offer of a meeting with some TC.'s to discuss what actually happened..." Why would I want to meet you? To learn something about Cyprus or humiliate you in some way? I've said it before, but I would recommend you adopt observer status on the BB until you feel confident enough to speak about Cyprus and maintain credibility. |
PtePike


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Message Posted: 13/12/2008 23:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 40 in Discussion |
| Groucho, Any evidence about the evil Akritas TC extermination and ethnic cleansing plan? |
Izzet


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Message Posted: 14/12/2008 01:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 40 in Discussion |
| The so-called akritas plan here: http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/history/cyproblem/akritas.html The Cyprus Conflict says the following: The discovery of the Akritas plan, written in the height of the constitutional dispute by the Greek Cypriot interior minister Policarpos Yorgadjis, called for the removal of undesirable elements of the constitution so as to allow power-sharing to work. The plan stipulated an organised attack on Turkish Cypriots should they show signs of resistance to the measures, stating “In the event of a planned or staged Turkish attack, it is imperative to overcome it by force in the shortest possible time, because if we succeed in gaining command of the situation (in one or two days), no outside, intervention would be either justified or possible.” It's a secret plan so you can't really find much evidence I suppose, but everybody including Pike knows that it exists and is the reason of current division in Cyprus. |
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