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No1Doyen


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A report in one of todays newspapers states that Manchester City are prepared to pay Gianluigi Buffon, the Juventus Goalkeeper, 250,000 per week.



Is it now time for footballers salaries to be capped?



sassycypgirl


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Grossly overpaid. Career might be short lived but how can you justify that

sort of money?



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Bill



I heard a month ago that the transfer fee might be 60 million.



Grossly overpaid, but the rich owners are willing to pay these vast sums. Boys with their toys



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SOURCE.............



No1Doyen


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Mark. Where will it all end. If a club is willing to spend hundreds of millions of pounds a year in salaries just to win a Premiership trophy or a Champions League is it viable?



Jock. Daily Mail (not my paper, a work colleagues)



dodger



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Its an absolute disgrace that anyone should paid this sort of money.Try explaining this to the twelve people that i had to lay off today,

Paul.



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ouch, I bet that was tough Paul



No1Doyen


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What do you think is the Maximum a footballer should be paid?



Should we have a maximum level set for each league, Premiership, Championship etc?



JimmyG


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Of course it should be capped because it's not sustainable and simply leads to higher season ticket prices which are becoming less and less affordable to the working man/woman and their kids. How are the next generation going to be able to afford to go to see a 'live' Premiership game let alone afford a season ticket? It's the TV money going into the Premiership that's been the biggest cause of this problem in my opinion



No1Doyen


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Jimmy. What I don't understand is the mentality of people like Abramovitch who is pumping hundred's of millions of pounds into Chelski. What does he think he's going to get out of it - holding the Premiership trophy for a photo shoot?



I agree - salaries should be capped at different league levels.



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Are footballers overpaid? Well, looking at the tarts they have to put up with I think they are probably underpaid... ;)



Who would you cap and who would you not?



Would you cap the captains of industry?



Are the spivs in the City worth the bonuses? They don't exactly take the physical risks that a footballer does...



Don't get me wrong I think footballers are generally overpaid prima donnas but where do the you draw the line?



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Gavin,



Some of these guys earn twice as much as our Prime Minister, who I would guess has a lot more responsibilty and works a lot longer hours for his money. The Captains of Industry - well some of these people are responsible for thousands of peoples jobs and welfare.



The spivs in the city. I think they probably take more physical risks than a footballer - you try coming out of a club at 3am having drunk 4 bottles of Bollinger and put a gramme up your nose.......



cyprusishome


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I do not think a salary cap serves any purpose.



What should be stopped are things called "BONUS".



I was always under the impression that a bonus was some extra payment that you received on performance. Now it appears that you are paid a salary then get the bonus at end of year whatever happens.



I know the first person in football up with the tears would be "Crybaby Ferguson". He is most unsporting person I have seen in 50+ years of watching sport.



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CIH every player's contract I've seen has a win bonus specified separately to the basic weekly wage and some also include an appearance fee which can be broken down further by a) being named in the 1st team squad & b) entering the field of play.



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MODERN DAY FOOTBALL SALARIES ARE OBSCENE AND QUITE FRANKLY DISGUST ME. ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE SUCH A BUNCH OF SOFT BUGGERS MANY OF WHOM CAN BARELY PLAY THE GAME



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the game was doomed the moment geezers like abramovic and the mega rich arabs moved in. tell me what will happen to man city or chelsea if they get fed up and walk ? i know im biased towards man utd but at least they run themeslves as a buisiness and spend what only the can afford, wages at the level mentioned above will simply turn fans away, the only people in this country who would condone sallaries like that are the government due to the amount of income tax they would receive from it . . regards andy



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andysue



im also a red but have to disagree ....what the glazers have done at O.T is yes back manager i agree and left him alone .But what they have done with season tickets holders is a disgrace ,The main reason for a stand is "the season tocket ,compulsory cup tickets scheme" .My brother went home and away for n20 years ,never missed a europena game away for 6 years etc etc ,yet has wlked over the primciple and gave his ticket up .



we are fans not cash cows .



on a footy front tough game away to the yids saturday ,what you think ?



kav



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Like everything else in life market forces dictate, so if someone is prepared to pay the going rate good luck to them.

Why single out footballers, the vast majority of professional players probably earnless than the UK average assuming their career lasts 10 years maximum.

Lets enjoy it while it lasts because the bubble will burst soon, and talking about bubbles lets hope the first club to go belly up is West Ham, after the way they CHEATED Sheff Unt out of the premiership.



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Andy,

For once we disagree mate.What has happened at United over the last few years is an absolute disgrace.They(the Glazers) have turned one of the most profitable clubs in world football into a bussiness that now has massive debts.I to used to watch them home and away and travel abroad.But now tend to pick my games.Its very rare now that i attend games at Old Trafford as it is no longer a pleasurable experience,due to a number of things.



Salary Caps in football imo would be a great idea as it would do away with the same teams finishing in the top four year in year out.The premiership is in danger of becoming stagnant and boring.Arsenal,Man u Chelsea and Liverpool,year in and year out.Roll on f.c. united of Manchester,

Paul.



No1Doyen


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Paul, I agree. I think if something us not soon you'll have a breakaway European Super League.



dodger



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http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/news.php



"WHAT AGREAT IDEA IN 50 YEARS THEY COULD WIN THE EUROPEAN CUP"



King Cantona.



Groucho



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It is a paradox that only good fooballers are capped...



No1Doyen


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I think I agree with you.



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i see a dutchman has a cap wonder if it will work ..........



Coachie



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No one ,footballer,banker doctor surgeon or what ever should not be paid the obscene amounts of money they aregetting.. I think capping is agreat idea,try them at 1000 a week and see how they manage..



arrry



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It's a big problem.



I have seen it at Arsenal, okay we have a fantastic stadium, but at a price !!



The cheapest season ticket is 1,200 !! And it does not include F A Cup and



League Cup matches . No player on this earth is worth the obscene amounts



they are getting paid . Unfortunately, for every season ticket that is returned ,



there is someone else willing to pay !!



Sky and the Premier League have got exactly what they wanted. They



have captured the ordinary bloke in the street , who cannot afford to go to a



match ( and there is a lot !! ) so he pays his SKY money for all the football and



he sits in front of the tele and watches it cheap !!



It won't be long before they will be showing 3 o'clock kick offs , then, maybe



the crap will hit the fan !!



No1Doyen


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Too true Harry. Sky now have a captive audience. The subscriptions will be going up again next year no doubt.



No1Doyen


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By the way Harry have you tried logging on to justintv.com you can stream live matches from all over the world.



arrry



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Bill



Yes have been using it for quite a while . Sky must be doing their head in because they cannot show 3 o'clock kick offs live ,but we can get them on the internet !!



Luvvly jubbly



andysue


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kav it should be good game man u to win 4-1 berbetov attric! paul i disagree with you too mate, man utd could have done a lot worse than than the glazers. remember we were a listed company on the london stock exchange meaning "for sale at anytime" .yes we have debt but its called opperational debt, the income,profit and cash streams take care of the repayments ,all big buisiness are sold and transfered in this way. one things for shure im glad it wasnt hicks and gillett who bought us! take care lads im off to the pub! andy



Turtle


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I think Bonus's should done differently,

Pay them a lower wage and then a bonus structure paid by the FA not the clubs then the clubs pay the FA.

In round terms make the buggers earn their money and another thing every professional footballer should be able to kick with both feet. oh and play in every position.



Right then that should do the trick.



arrry



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Turtle



Does that mean you have sorted it ?



Good man ,but i think there is a little bit of work still to be done !lol



I agree they should earn their money but the way things are going



their career will only last 5 years !! They will have earned enough in that



time to retire !!



Nice work if you can get it



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Church

Road North Ferriby for me 3 p.m. Sat to see F.C. United one religion.



Groucho



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Doyen



"Some of these guys earn twice as much as our Prime Minister, who I would guess has a lot more responsibilty and works a lot longer hours for his money."



I think one should put one's MP to work by not voting for them at the next election....



"The Captains of Industry - well some of these people are responsible for thousands of peoples jobs and welfare. "



Would that they acted like it..... The first people to suffer when the business restructuring plan the boss thinks is good for business goes phut! Are the thousands of people in the company....



There was a time when the top man's salary equalled no more than 20 times the average wage within the company. Now, with fat bonus schemes built into their salary structure, the boss now takes up to 400 times the average wage..



Yes 400!



The company could employ 400 more workers instead of the boss. Who thinks they should all work harder to make him richer as his targets will be met by their production....



dodger



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Great post Gav,

Totally agree with your comments.These sort of payments crucified the corrupt game in Italy,and i think that it will only be a matter of time before it hits the premiership.What really annoys me is when you see players kissing the emblem on their shirt after they have scored.How many of them really mean it.



No1Doyen


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Dodger, did I miss something in Gavins post? He never mentioned anything about payments to footballers !



dodger



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Doyen,

Just adding my six penneth to the debate.Didnt say he did mention payments,

Paul.



No1Doyen


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Got it! I think.



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Footballers have short careers and only the top players get the very top wages..I think jealousy is abound here.



No1Doyen


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Couldn't be further from the truth- deecyprus4. I'm in no way jealous of what any sportsman earns. It is as you say a short lived career, but I do feel that the huge wages they are being paid is now getting out of hand. 250,000 a week for playing 2 games a week for 34 weeks is much too much.



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Don't worry Bill,



With the average player possessing no more one metalwork O level, it's a fairly good bet that as soon as their earning capacity ends some clever bastard will relieve them of most of their accumulated wealth!



Either that or they'll piss it up against the wall....



You only have to look at money-grabbing footballer's wives to know where the costly divorce will make most of the loot end up....



Becks


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My friend is a footballers girlfriend and she does not grab his money. He gives her a very nice allowance without her even asking.



palacerclass


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No capping.Being an ex pro if yo have a skill, a talent, you deserve your wage.Just like a pop star or a movie star.It just happens to be a well paid short term job.Its the clubs who are the employers for the contracts they dictate the level they wish to pay.Certain amount of footballers wages go to charity.



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Probably their own charity.



Becks


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Footballers deserve all the money they get even though my friends boyfriend says he does not deserve all the money he get for kicking a ball about. And he earns more in a week than the average man earns in a year. He does give to charity but spends it on hiself and family becasue it won't last forever, he could even get injured but he is insured for quite a lot.



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I don't buy this " they only have short careers so should earn big money" view.



It happens to loads of people that lose thier jobs after say 20 years but do they sit on their ass and do nothing, no they get off their ass and retrain and start again what gives these players the right to expect to retire at 35.



They live in a different world to the rest of us but someone should invite them back to our world, who the hell do they think they are.



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Becks,

You need to come back to the real world.Some footballers wages are offensive and need to be brought into line.



No1Doyen


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I agree, they are grossly overpaid.



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